Avengers 5: Doomsday

[ranger_scout]

Chris Evans is coming back too.

https://deadline.com/2024/12/chris-e...ay-1236198951/

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, I bet there's some kind of "throwaway" to very quickly wrap up the Kang stuff at the beginning of the movie. It surely couldn't just be nothing, could it?

[ToTheNines]

This is so lame. Endgame was such a great ending, don’t ruin it.

It’s very sad and unfortunate what happened to Boseman, but could they really not something around other characters? Obviously trying to bank on Brie was foolish, but come on.

[ZariusTwo]

I think all the original Avengers (possibly sans Scarlett) will be back, but as villains for the new generation to defeat, so we'll get "evil white guy" Steve being punched out by the 'worthy' Sam Wilson Cap wielding Thor's hammer (like in the Secret Empire comic)

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I think all the original Avengers (possibly sans Scarlett) will be back, but as villains for the new generation to defeat, so we'll get "evil white guy" Steve being punched out by the 'worthy' Sam Wilson Cap wielding Thor's hammer (like in the Secret Empire comic)

God damn it. You’re 100 percent right, aren’t you?

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, he'll be Captain Hydra like from a few years ago in the comics.

[Andrew NDB]

For some reason this story wasn't really given much traction:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/jonathan-m...d%20PR%20firms.

Jonathan Majors' ex girlfriend basically dropped everything.

Majors and Jabbari stipulated to a dismissal of her lawsuit for defamation and assault that she brought against him in March, the filing said.

Obviously money was involved but you don't get to both accept the money, agree to all the charges going away and STILL pretend you were victimized/that Majors was so horrible. Even if he was.

[ToTheNines]

[ZariusTwo]

Russos threw out all of Michael Waldron's ideas and contributions, they're starting fresh

https://comicbookmovie.com/avengers/...y-role-a215655

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Russos threw out all of Michael Waldron's ideas and contributions, they're starting fresh

https://comicbookmovie.com/avengers/...y-role-a215655

Not that the Russos are any great arbiters of quality themselves... as we've seen in every single thing they've done since the last Avengers movie.

[ranger_scout]

Chris Evans denies he's coming back saying he's, "'Happily retired."

https://ew.com/chris-evans-denies-av...etired-8783097

Meanwhile, Benedict Cumberbatch is backtracking on Doctor Strange not appearing in the movie, "I got that wrong. Don't ever believe anything I say."

https://ew.com/benedict-cumberbatch-...omsday-8783071

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

Chris Evans denies he's coming back saying he's, "'Happily retired."

https://ew.com/chris-evans-denies-av...etired-8783097

Meanwhile, Benedict Cumberbatch is backtracking on Doctor Strange not appearing in the movie, "I got that wrong. Don't ever believe anything I say."

https://ew.com/benedict-cumberbatch-...omsday-8783071

It's been a "Strange" week at this studio

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

Meanwhile, Benedict Cumberbatch is backtracking on Doctor Strange not appearing in the movie, "I got that wrong. Don't ever believe anything I say."

Including what he's saying... right there, as well.

[IMJ]

I think it's likely that the entire roster is coming as a form of "Evil Avengers" in an entirely unsatisfying encore that people will cheer-for in the moment but then hate later, like Iron Man 3.

Iron Man as Doom. Captain America as Captain Hydra. And the rest of the team as whatever evil version they decide to dig up. Basically a team appearance of Star Trek Mirror Universe versions.

Honestly, the Universe building thing was mostly fun and had some amazing content. Now reboot it and get back to the "Iron Man films can be like 'James Bond' and don't have to be tied to ongoing continuity forever.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah. If I had to speculate... probably Scarlet Witch comes back in the movie, who is already evil (for now), and she somehow marshals extra-dimensional threats that just so happen to be pre-existing Avengers members but from other universes so as to play on the regular MCU's (and the audience's) heartstrings. Yeah, Dr. Doom, maybe Future Imperfect Hulk or something, Captain Hydra, and all that sort of stuff. But probably we'll see Scarlet Witch do a heel-to-face turn in it.

[ZariusTwo]

Concept art has leaked

Spoiler:

-Doop, a mutant from the X-Static comics of the 2000s, is appearing
-Medieval/Tribal setting (presumably Battleworld)
-Doom will have his God Emperor form
-Vision and Starlord share an apartment
-Jocasta debuts in the MCU
-Hulk village
-Male Black Panther
-Young Avengers (Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye, Cassie Lang, Wiccan, and Speed)

https://comicbookmovie.com/avengers/...r-doom-a216533

[ToTheNines]

Sounds pretty lame.

Spoiler:

Kind of annoyed by the Black Panther thing. I couldn’t finish Wakanda Forever because Riri was so cringe, but I loved the MCU take on Shuri and was looking forward to see her as BP in an Avengers movie.

Maybe Marvel got rid of her for her politics.

[neatoman]

Spoiler:

How old is T'Challa Jr. meant to be?

[ToTheNines]

Spoiler:

he should only be about 9 years old in this movie. Unless it’s several years after current “present day” (BNW and Thunderbolt are 2027, in universe and Toussaint was born either 2018 or ‘19). The Young Avengers stuff tells me it’s not that far off.

[Andrew NDB]

There is no Young Avengers stuff. If they were planning it at all it died during Feige's culling of everything.