US American politics

[Mayhem]

Florida removes vaccine mandates? Welcome to epidemic ground zero folks…

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Florida removes vaccine mandates? Welcome to epidemic ground zero folks…

You are being hyperbolic. All this does is instill "choice as a matter of record". People will still take vaccines for proven outcomes at the recommendations of doctors.

Your comment there is just more evidence as to how you view the world and not how the world operates.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Florida removes vaccine mandates? Welcome to epidemic ground zero folks…

Florida: "Hey kids! Doesn't Polio sound fun??"



Some of the stuff out of this guy's mouth was either straight out lies or he really absolutely and shamefully has ZERO clue what is going on.

"Most Americans will be able to get it [Covid vaccine] from their pharmacy for free."

Untrue. Locals were already reporting early this week that now they CAN NOT walk into those establishments and choose to get the vaccine unless they are over 65 or have a listed underlying condition. Seems to be true of quite a few states. Some other states are allowing it, but only with a prescription and may still depend on age.

No one need to feel pressured these days to get it, thank goodness, but that someone can't voluntarily choose to go to a pharmacy to get it is unreal.


And this one the other video didn't even include...

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

"Most Americans will be able to get it [Covid vaccine] from their pharmacy for free."

Untrue. Locals were already reporting early this week that now they CAN NOT walk into those establishments and choose to get the vaccine unless they are over 65 or have a listed underlying condition.

OK. If true, in other words the only people who would possibly NEED a COVID vaccine can get one for free.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by IMJ

People will still take vaccines for proven outcomes at the recommendations of doctors.

Your faith in people I fear is sadly misplaced. Vaccines work better with herd immunity. As in, the more people take it, the less likely you’ll suffer should you actually contract the illness.

I’ll be waiting for the first lawsuits from parents whose children that are vaccinated still get blatted by life altering complications from contracting a more virulent form of a disease from a child who is not.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

OK. If true, in other words the only people who would possibly NEED a COVID vaccine can get one for free.

Viruses aren't selective so no, not really, anyone who wants to get one that has been approved and made available should be able to.

[ToTheNines]

Wait is this project 2025?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Viruses aren't selective so no, not really, anyone who wants to get one that has been approved and made available should be able to.

But if you don't NEED one for a virus you MIGHT get that isn't going to kill you and will just give you a headache for a week or so, we should all pay for that? People have always had to pay for flu shots, why should this be any different?

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

People have always had to pay for flu shots, why should this be any different?

Really? Shame for you. Because every fall and winter I see local chain pharmacies with their "free flu shots" signs up.


I've never had a headache from a shot. The Covid one did make my upper arm VERY sore and stiff for some days, but that was it.

I have no intention of getting it, because I'm otherwise a chicken and avoid needles, but it's still stupid that they're limiting access from people who WANT it. Thing is, even if someone would likely be fine without it themselves, there's that one thing that people continue to ignore -- sometimes people live with someone who has a compromised immune system, including some who may not able to get it for themselves, and they get vaccines to avoid bringing these viruses home. That person who wants to help try to protect that loved one is blocked from it because they bodily do not have a "need."

My heart goes out to those who have a kid fighting cancer or something and they worry what they might take home or into the hospital to that kid, and even just as a precaution the parents now don't quality.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Really? Shame for you. Because every fall and winter I see local chain pharmacies with their "free flu shots" signs up.

That's true. I've seen those from time to time from various places.

I've never had a headache from a shot.

I mostly mean the effects of COVID itself. It was like a consistent, nagging sinus headache the two, possibly three times I've had it. For me personally, which seems an anomaly, is the SNEEZING. Constantly sneezing my brains out. I didn't expect that. Particular as an enjoyer of cigarettes, I far more expected some kind of devastating terrible coughing frenzy but not at all. So annoying, but nothing*.

*: I don't dismiss that the original strain was a bit more dangerous. But after that, we were out of the woods.

I have no intention of getting it, because I'm otherwise a chicken and avoid needles, but it's still stupid that they're limiting access from people who WANT it.

Hey, I appreciate your clarity there. But... I want a ferrari. Should I get it?

Thing is, even if someone would likely be fine without it themselves, there's that one thing that people continue to ignore -- sometimes people live with someone who has a compromised immune system, including some who may not able to get it for themselves, and they get vaccines to avoid bringing these viruses home. That person who wants to help try to protect that loved one is blocked from it because they bodily do not have a "need."

We've long ruled out "if I get the COVID vax, I can't transmit it." That was a fake thing. Also, that if you get the COVID vax you won't get it. You'll still get it, it just -- arguably -- might be a bit milder. You're a little behind in this regard.

[Stu_Padasso]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Wait is this project 2025?

In three months, you are going to DIE!

Or so I’m told.

I don’t even know know if it’s gonna rain tomorrow.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Stu_Padasso

In three months, you are going to DIE!

Or so I’m told.

I don’t even know know if it’s gonna rain tomorrow.

There's an ongoing list from the "people of the Technodrome forums" of all of the horrific things that will unfold from the continued policies of Trump's administration.

So far the only "prediction" that has held true is that woke $#!( followed the standard societal curve of stupidity and social-onboarding and has trended down rapidly.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Your faith in people I fear is sadly misplaced. Vaccines work better with herd immunity. As in, the more people take it, the less likely you’ll suffer should you actually contract the illness.

Nonsense. That's pretty much saying getting the vaccine is worthless unless the guy standing next to you also took it. I don't think that's how the classic vaccines worked before the CoVid one was introduced.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Nonsense. That's pretty much saying getting the vaccine is worthless unless the guy standing next to you also took it. I don't think that's how the classic vaccines worked before the CoVid one was introduced.

Or even when they went to the trouble of changing the definition of "vaccine" for the COViD one.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Or even when they went to the trouble of changing the definition of "vaccine" for the COViD one.

Yes! Exactly that. Even going as far as editing wikipedia and Webster's dictionary and whatever else to change the definition just so whatever that concoction was also counted as one.

The CoVid years was full of all sorts of trickery and gaslighting.

[IMJ]

Like I said, the left relies on hyperbole, and the better the center and the right do acting in comprehension and normalcy, the more the left will fallback on hyperbole projected to an increasingly diminished audience. People will be just fine choosing their vaccinations, and most will choose proven vaccines and continue forward.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

The CoVid years was full of all sorts of trickery and gaslighting.

COVID gave society's unstable people, clearly mostly aligned to "leftist processes", another 'faction to rally against'.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by IMJ

So far the only "prediction" that has held true is that woke $#!( followed the standard societal curve of stupidity and social-onboarding and has trended down rapidly.

This has been kind of interesting. Entertainment in general, and comedy in particular, were ****ing insufferable in 2016. Things have definitely chilled out in that regard.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

This has been kind of interesting. Entertainment in general, and comedy in particular, were ****ing insufferable in 2016. Things have definitely chilled out in that regard.

I've said it over the years to the some of the forum bugs who felt empowered by the insanity - society is a slow ship to steer and people get on board easily for "virtue" and lack of true recognition of a pattern. But it all operates on a curve and when it drops off it's going to be harsh and fast.

And of course, when I said it the forum bugs basically bugged up, as they do.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

We've long ruled out "if I get the COVID vax, I can't transmit it." That was a fake thing. Also, that if you get the COVID vax you won't get it. You'll still get it, it just -- arguably -- might be a bit milder. You're a little behind in this regard.

I remember cases of events in buildings with strict 'only vaccinated people allowed' rules and cruises with only vaccinated people allowed, and yet the people still caught CoVid. Blew that whole lie out of the water.

Also I know Trump lies every other word, but President Biden said on live TV if you get the shot you won't catch CoVid, and everyone just let that lie slide. Sure, Biden isn't a medical professional, but ideally we're supposed to trut the president, aren't we?

Let's also not forget Biden and all his 'my patience is wearing thin' and 'winter of death' type threats if you didn't get the jab.

2021 was a shitshow.

[IMJ]

Preliminary talks about needing "vaccine I.D." to get into places and to travel.... Public shaming for anyone not playing by the playbook... Public threats and meltdowns over "perceived dissidence" to socially-pushed "policy".
All pushed by leftist mania. All elements of fascism.