Vol 4 issue #21

*Raph's Girl* · 04-16-2005, 08:12 AM

Hey guys... mark your calendars for the 20th because according to a very reliable source that's when issue 21 of Vol 4 will be out!

*cowabunga14* · 04-17-2005, 03:44 PM

Yay finallly. At least its comin' out even thought its late. I'm still gonna buy it. I've been watin' all month for it.

*Spitfire* · 04-19-2005, 02:47 PM

Oh awesome! What sites do you guys check for shipping dates? I check Diamound comics but they almost never have TMNT listed....or Darkstalkers....or Castlevania. Hey all the comics I buy

iluvmikey · 04-19-2005, 09:15 PM

you can check Earthworldcomics.com or Midtowncomics.com. you can also have them sent to you as they are released, the $ comes out of your checking account! I ordered from Midtown last week and recieved all of the comics I ordered today! pretty sweet if u ask me.

~~BartAllen~~ · 04-20-2005, 11:33 AM

just got it. interesting read. i love peter lairds responce to the whole.. "the story is going so slow" stuff. and i love his advice to the people who dont like his writing style.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-20-2005, 11:46 AM

I agree, Laird once more tells the biased complainers where to truly stick it, it's not his fault the gormless muppets want more style and less substance

Anyway, back on topic, the characters seem to be reunitning now, Mikey will stumble on Donatello after he rescues Regenta from her captors, Leo and Raph are together again (with Raph hinting at a new form of the Sai since he can't currently use the originals) , and Donatello was shrunk

A shame Leo's story has stalled, "Book of Karai" was developing very well, but I guess April needs to have her story told at the momet and Laird needed to sacrifice one of two stories for now to include it.

~~BartAllen~~ · 04-20-2005, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I agree, Laird once more tells the biased complainers where to truly stick it, it's not his fault the gormless muppets want more style and less substance.

Well what PL says is true though.. why read it if you don't like it?

**Karpo_007** · 04-20-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BartAllen

Well what PL says is true though.. why read it if you don't like it?

Of course I don't have the issue for another week or so, but If Laird is referring to the "complaining" on this board, very few have said they don't like vol. 4, they have said they don't like it as much as vol.1/2 and why that is. Can't wait to see his reply though, but judging from the past it does seem he doesn't take critique all that well.

~~BartAllen~~ · 04-20-2005, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Of course I don't have the issue for another week or so, but If Laird is referring to the "complaining" on this board, very few have said they don't like vol. 4, they have said they don't like it as much as vol.1/2 and why that is. Can't wait to see his reply though, but judging from the past it does seem he doesn't take critique all that well.

oh no no no.. he isnt complaining about the people on this board. just the people who constantly write to him complaining.

**Karpo_007** · 04-20-2005, 03:01 PM

Ok. But in the past he has commented on some things talked about here, so you never know who's watching...

*ZariusTwo* · 04-20-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Of course I don't have the issue for another week or so, but If Laird is referring to the "complaining" on this board.

Actually, he was replying to some typo-ridden fan in the letters collum who was impaitent with the comics' direction, and who chose to insult him fairly badly, get his facts wrong, accused him of hating the original cartoon which put the franchise on the map (Pete disliked the presentation, not what the show did for him and Kevin) and hoped that Eastman came back.

Laird has been known to have dealt with forum members here, mostly the ones who criticise him are given a choice: Like it or leave it, it seems with less discussion in here more than ever on Volume Four, the bandwagon consensus has been "leave it"

**Karpo_007** · 04-20-2005, 03:22 PM

Allright. That cleared it up. Like I said before it does seem Laird takes critique quite badly. But it's his book, and he takes it in the direction he wants, without trying to please fans. And he can do that, it's not like he needs to make a lot of money with the book anyway.

*cowabunga14* · 04-20-2005, 05:44 PM

Hopefully I can pick up the comic today seein' as a guy might take me there after my bible study. The church isn't even a mile away from the comic book store. Sounds like its a good one.

*VaughnMichael* · 04-21-2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I agree, Laird once more tells the biased complainers where to truly stick it, it's not his fault the gormless muppets want more style and less substance

omg holy crap lol don't ever use the word muppet in such a negative way again foorrrrr shammmeee

*ZariusTwo* · 04-21-2005, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

omg holy crap lol don't ever use the word muppet in such a negative way again foorrrrr shammmeee

If Wonder Showzen can use muppets for sex change operations, nothing is sacred

*DrSpengler* · 04-21-2005, 09:20 AM

Finally got around to reading it today.

Nice to see a little more focus on one story (Don's) rather than an equal amount of pages per story (which made them each way too short). Don's moved along quite nicely, I guess. I suppose the next issue is going to feature the battle with the raptors, though no telling what good tiny Don will do.

And much to the chagrin of many a Raph-fan, it looks like we're going to be stuck with Super Mutant Raph for a while. It's fine by me, to be honest. I've had regular Raph for so long a little change doesn't bother me. I'm sure he'll be back to normal eventually.

April and Casey's story is going to pick up next issue (supposedly with no turtles!), so I can't wait for that.

And, as usual, Mike's segment was the dullest. He wakes up in a jail cell. The end. Ah well, it's bound to pick up sooner or later.

Anyway, the issue felt like more of the same. The next issue's going to be completely dedicated to April's story, so we might see some real development there.

*cowabunga14* · 04-21-2005, 05:07 PM

I think Raphael's transformation is inspired by the last seasons of the original cartoon. In some of the episodes the Turtles had problems with controllin' their mutations. Raphael should transform back to his regular self so he could fight in the streets and out of the sewer. He shouldn't stay like that cuz its a bad idea if he does. I hope there's a lot of action and more story development in the next couple issues. There needs to be some changes that are important and that really impact the TMNT.

Aztec General · 04-21-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

Allright. That cleared it up. Like I said before it does seem Laird takes critique quite badly.

Yeah, that's an understatement. I'll be the first to admit that I feel the story is progressing too slowly (especially Leo's which I was SO into a few issues back) but I'm a TMNT lifer and I'm convinced that Laird won't dissappoint. I just hope he moves away from his 5 stories in one issue style and moves onto a style that evolves more rapidly.

I think I'll pick up the book tomorrow and let you know my thoughts.

Triceraton · 04-21-2005, 08:46 PM

I don't think the real issue is that the story is moving too slow, it's that it seems slower than it is because issues are only out every 2 months. That's what it is for me at least, the stories aren't too slow, I'm just left wanting more of all of them every time.

Definitely lookng forward to this issue though(I probably won't get a chance to go and get until sometime next week), and especially the next one since we'll probably find out what's going on with April.

**Karpo_007** · 04-21-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Triceraton

I don't think the real issue is that the story is moving too slow, it's that it seems slower than it is because issues are only out every 2 months.

I belive the biggest proble lies here as well. Some months back I read issues 1-15 in one evening, and I noticed it works much better that way. And like Rat King said, they are trying to move along too many stories in one issue, and that combined to the 2 month wait between issues, makes the story seem to go very slowly.

04-16-2005, 08:12 AM	#1
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	Vol 4 issue #21 Hey guys... mark your calendars for the 20th because according to a very reliable source that's when issue 21 of Vol 4 will be out! __________________

04-19-2005, 02:47 PM	#3
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Oh awesome! What sites do you guys check for shipping dates? I check Diamound comics but they almost never have TMNT listed....or Darkstalkers....or Castlevania. Hey all the comics I buy __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

04-19-2005, 09:15 PM	#4
iluvmikey Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 16	comic release you can check Earthworldcomics.com or Midtowncomics.com. you can also have them sent to you as they are released, the $ comes out of your checking account! I ordered from Midtown last week and recieved all of the comics I ordered today! pretty sweet if u ask me.

04-20-2005, 11:46 AM	#6
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,484	I agree, Laird once more tells the biased complainers where to truly stick it, it's not his fault the gormless muppets want more style and less substance Anyway, back on topic, the characters seem to be reunitning now, Mikey will stumble on Donatello after he rescues Regenta from her captors, Leo and Raph are together again (with Raph hinting at a new form of the Sai since he can't currently use the originals) , and Donatello was shrunk A shame Leo's story has stalled, "Book of Karai" was developing very well, but I guess April needs to have her story told at the momet and Laird needed to sacrifice one of two stories for now to include it. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

04-20-2005, 05:44 PM	#13
cowabunga14 Lover of Weird Things Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,014	Hopefully I can pick up the comic today seein' as a guy might take me there after my bible study. The church isn't even a mile away from the comic book store. Sounds like its a good one. __________________ How can something so beautiful shine on something so dreadful?

04-17-2005, 03:44 PM	#2
cowabunga14 Lover of Weird Things Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,014	Yay finallly. At least its comin' out even thought its late. I'm still gonna buy it. I've been watin' all month for it. __________________ How can something so beautiful shine on something so dreadful?

04-20-2005, 11:33 AM	#5
~~BartAllen~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 922	just got it. interesting read. i love peter lairds responce to the whole.. "the story is going so slow" stuff. and i love his advice to the people who dont like his writing style.

04-20-2005, 03:01 PM	#10
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Ok. But in the past he has commented on some things talked about here, so you never know who's watching...

04-20-2005, 03:22 PM	#12
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Allright. That cleared it up. Like I said before it does seem Laird takes critique quite badly. But it's his book, and he takes it in the direction he wants, without trying to please fans. And he can do that, it's not like he needs to make a lot of money with the book anyway.

04-21-2005, 09:20 AM	#16
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Finally got around to reading it today. Nice to see a little more focus on one story (Don's) rather than an equal amount of pages per story (which made them each way too short). Don's moved along quite nicely, I guess. I suppose the next issue is going to feature the battle with the raptors, though no telling what good tiny Don will do. And much to the chagrin of many a Raph-fan, it looks like we're going to be stuck with Super Mutant Raph for a while. It's fine by me, to be honest. I've had regular Raph for so long a little change doesn't bother me. I'm sure he'll be back to normal eventually. April and Casey's story is going to pick up next issue (supposedly with no turtles!), so I can't wait for that. And, as usual, Mike's segment was the dullest. He wakes up in a jail cell. The end. Ah well, it's bound to pick up sooner or later. Anyway, the issue felt like more of the same. The next issue's going to be completely dedicated to April's story, so we might see some real development there.

04-21-2005, 05:07 PM	#17
cowabunga14 Lover of Weird Things Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,014	I think Raphael's transformation is inspired by the last seasons of the original cartoon. In some of the episodes the Turtles had problems with controllin' their mutations. Raphael should transform back to his regular self so he could fight in the streets and out of the sewer. He shouldn't stay like that cuz its a bad idea if he does. I hope there's a lot of action and more story development in the next couple issues. There needs to be some changes that are important and that really impact the TMNT. __________________ How can something so beautiful shine on something so dreadful?

04-21-2005, 08:46 PM	#19
Triceraton Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 246	I don't think the real issue is that the story is moving too slow, it's that it seems slower than it is because issues are only out every 2 months. That's what it is for me at least, the stories aren't too slow, I'm just left wanting more of all of them every time. Definitely lookng forward to this issue though(I probably won't get a chance to go and get until sometime next week), and especially the next one since we'll probably find out what's going on with April.