OFFICIAL NEW EPISODE DISCUSSION: "Clash of the Turtle Titans"

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

The TMNT are OOC alot of the times, acting more childish than their age, and than they'd ever acted in the 2K3 series. I can't stand that.

Well, whatever their age actually is now, since in "Future Shellshock", Leo was saying about 15 years of Ninja Training, even though they were supposed to be 15 in Season 1 .......

Maybe any training they've had between season 1 and Fast Forward doesn't count.

Edit - And on an unrelated note - Yay! 100 posts for me

[cowabunga14]

I thought this episode was pretty decent.

I didn't expect to see Triple Threat again because Sh'okanabo is who I thought would show up......4Kids dissapointed me on that one. At least Mikey and the human Turtle Titan fought Triple Threat.

This episode had some humor, combined with the action that took place, it felt average for me.

It was cool to see how Silver Sentry's grandson came to be the Turtle Titan in 2105; I don't think I could've asked for a better origin story.

Leo skateboarding on the half pipe -- that's something we're not gonna see too often, which is fine with me. Hey, at least he was doing something that's a hobby of mine; I feel Leo relates to me in that manner.

My verdict on this episode: three Turtle Titan moments out of five. It felt average to me, yet I enjoyed it, which I stated in an above sentence.

[gobo]

Ew. Hun looked like crap in that embellishment. Check out that itty bitty head on that distorted & elongated neck. It was definitely not 2K3 style at any point. I'm pretty sure that was Scottie Ray voicing The Shredder. Also, was that Sean Schemmel as the new Turtle Titan? That was a very fun episode. Superhero parodies always make me smile. Or, actually, superheroes do the same under any condition. So, there were Silver Sentry, Justice Force, Nobody and Titanic Tales (Turtle Titan) comics at that exhibit. That makes me wonder if Mikey lived through the days that his comic series was published yet. BTW, since it was an exhibit of 20th century pop-culture, why were there comics of a character that didn't even exist until the early 21st century? O_o Something doesn't add up here... I guess showing off the original design of his TT costume wasn't an issue, so Mikey must have just picked up the current version at the local costume shop. How 'convenient'.... Biggles being knocked off the roof was funnier in the preview for some reason. Mikey's always been obnoxious/inconsiderate enough to cause more trouble than he fixes, but this really pushed the envelope. He put someone in mortal danger (even if he is an immortal robot who can easily be rebuilt; the audience doesn't know), and he only cared because it was a chance to prove his worth as a superhero. That's kinda' sick. Are we to believe he only cares for the safety of the people who don't judge him? Like Cody? I knew that development wouldn't stick... Mikey's mockery of Raph in next week's preview was awesome! I LOLed @ that for half an hour or more.

[iris]

If y'all are going to talk about what TMNT is SUPPOSED to be... you'll never get anywhere. TMNT has been many things over the years. There's something for everyone, but not necessarily everyone all at once. :p

Couldn't Mike have gotten his costume from Cody's Magical Make Anything Your Heart Desires machine? I dunno. LOL

[gobo]

Originally Posted by iris

Couldn't Mike have gotten his costume from Cody's Magical Make Anything Your Heart Desires machine? I dunno. LOL

Sure, but why wouldn't he have wore the original colors then? That was my point.

[creativerealms82]

Originally Posted by TMNT

The episode began back in 2K3. I was happy to see Hun and The Shredder again. The animation was great...just like the good old days. Then Fast Forward Mikey appears and takes me right out. This episode was filler, the next episode seems like a filler. This whole series seems like a filler. The Triple Head monster isn't a good villian. The last episode seemed like it would take Fast Forward somewhere but once again, one episode (or in FF's case, about 5-6 episodes have ruined this show's "potential"...haha i just read that...potential is too good of a word to waste on FF). The only reason I'm sticking with FF is because it is the Turtle universe. It's better than nothing. My head hurts.

Actually Next weeks story continues the other main story line, the Dunn story line. Darius tries to have Cody and the Turtles killed while they are on the moon. It follows that main plot.

God Fast Forward has less of a filler feel then the first half of last season did.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by creativerealms82

Actually Next weeks story continues the other main story line, the Dunn story line. Darius tries to have Cody and the Turtles killed while they are on the moon. It follows that main plot.

But if Darius had wanted Cody dead, he wouldn't have even bothered to intervene at the end of ep02 ......

[The Boardman]

If my memory does not fail me, it may get darker for the next episodes and on. At least for the one I have boarded. However nothing like my " Beginning of the End" episode dark(that was a bit much)

have fun.
the Boardman

[creativerealms82]

Originally Posted by Stephen!

But if Darius had wanted Cody dead, he wouldn't have even bothered to intervene at the end of ep02 ......

Thats smple, he intervined not because Cody was going to die but because his involvement in the inncident would have gotten out. He does want to kill Cody but only when none of the blame can be pointed to him. So he haved Cody and the Turtles last time to make himself look like a hero so when he does kill Cody he won't be a prime suspect.

Of course he wants to kill Cody I believe. Ether kill him or control him. Dunn is obviously on Cody's mother's side of the family (Looks nether like an oneal or a Jones and that last name) Obviously he can't have control of the company as long as there is a living heir.

Ok he wants to kill the turtles first as they have removed Cody from his controled sheltered life and opened his eyes. The Turtles can ruin everything for him first, which is A control Cody or B kill Cody.

There are two main plotlines going on The Dunn one and the Shoko one. I figure one will reach it's conclusion midway though the season (Probably Shoko) and the other will take up the rest of the season.

Anyway while Fast Forward IS a filler season it is currently less filler/stand alone dependent then the first half of season four was.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by The Boardman

If my memory does not fail me, it may get darker for the next episodes and on. At least for the one I have boarded. However nothing like my " Beginning of the End" episode dark(that was a bit much)

Is Fast Forward TMNT's final season then? Or is it's future still undecided depending on the ratings?

[The Boardman]

Good at reading between lines Stephen. However I'm not suggesting that FF is the last season. Only that we have four storyboard Teams, therefore is hard to keep up with everyones arc. Tmnt will go on as there is people that are interested in watching it.

Your pal,
The Boardman

[Jester]

Wow, an inside guy. Welcome to the fold, Boardman. Hope we don't turn you off by our constant griping about TMNT:FF.

[VaughnMichael]

My opinion is that this damn show is finally starting up!! And I couldn't be happier!! I loved this episode and I'm a turtle titan hater 100% I actully hope we get a figure of the new turtle titan (human).
The opening of the show was great I was like what! it was great to see the old characters again and Malignis some one we will like never see again. And the shredder was so like 80's shredder lmao.
Best part was Tripple Threat taking the comic and trying to be a bad guy from it loved it he's allot like a bad guy in the story I'm writting who's bad but is so dumb it really doesn't even matter he just sorta gets in the way.
Serling man I'm loving this guy best moment in the entire show was was when mike hurt his foot and was jumping around and Serling that jerk recorded it to his memory hahahah!
I was wondering where Splinter is at though the entire time but oh well guess we don't need him.
Cody has become less annoying to me he really is just kinda there now or a guide to the future.
Officer Biggles the guy makes me laugh the line "whats all this then" has been said so many times and made fun of it's now become funny.
I also really liked how the new turtle titan was related to silver Sentry and he straight out was like wow I idolized you and I don't anymore because your an ass. I'm glad some one shut mike up for once cause he is selfish.
I really do though find it so funny how all of our opinions of this show differ I'm really not finding this show to be much differnt from episodes of the 2k3 show and honestly I've liked allot of those even less than this.
I think it's safe to say the guys are gonna be in the future for some time. And you know I really don't mind.
I'm gonna give this series a year to develop and I think it's safe to say it's either gonna take off or it wont but either way I'm happy with what we've got sure it could be better but it's not the worst thing ever.
oh and next weeks preview "ughh I'm raph I hate the future!" ahahah what was that a puppet? oh many funnyyy

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

*yawwwns*

What a waste of time. Pure fluff, no actual real story or real need for this episode.

Honestly, I was more worried about Biggles falling from the building than I have yet about any of the others. I like Biggles and Sterling... They're like actual ADULTS! Which is what this show needs more of; Grown up-like types that actually make sense. Since, obviously, even Splinter isn't in that role anymore.

I'm not sure why no one likes Biggles or Sterling; they are the big truth tellers in the series! And not awful childish fluffy exagerated characterizations that everyone else is now. Ugh. Who needs that kiddish crap.

Well, I gave it a chance. It sucked. I wasted a half hour of my life. Didn't smile once, nothing was funny. Mike was especially annoying. The new TT had it right. If that's how he's gonna be, I want no part of it.

well I dissagree allot about what you think of it being a waste I think it added allot to the show and isn't making characters one liners or one timers and now we have more to silver sentry and that opening part was amazing and the comic books look they did an amazing job on that.
The thing that still gets me though is the damn theme song ugh it's just so garage band lol...oh and btw we can agree on one thing I like biggles and Serling the guys priceless when mike hurt his foot and he recorded it to his memory I laughed out loud.

Originally Posted by X

I did laugh in the episode, it was pretty funny. I used to want a mix of the old school toon and the new one, and I think FF is hitting that pretty well with some decent comedy (some still falls flat like most comedy in the 2k3 series has,) and some good action. BRING ON MORE FILLERS!!!
-X-

I agree and it is funny unless were just super optimistic and amused easily...

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The old series knew it was a cartoon even during it's "darker" episodes (seasons one-three and seven-ten were more action/comedy than comedy), and that's why it can't be faulted for anything it does.
Fast Forward knows it's supposed to be something else that it's past few seaons have represented, but can't live up to the previous standard and tries to depend on the humour of the new series, and that's why it sucks. The humour in the new series has never been the show's strong point.

seriously I swear I've seen you post this same exact thign before did you just copy and past it! did you watch today episode? opinions, comments, thoughts, things you think would have been better? That would all be very nice.

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

JF comic, why did the guy that Silver Sentry faught look so much like Jammerhead?
BTW...TMNT FF will be on at 9am next week cuz of Yu Gi Oh being on at 11.

that was dr. Malignus from the one episode of the 2k3 series
oh and thanks for that I was wondering they kept advertising it as being on at 11:00am still stupid fox!! I think it will do better at 9:00am to be quite honest.

Originally Posted by J Legault

Anyways I liked this one a lot. Was anyone else surprised that they got away with saying the word Nazis? Which you don't hear too often in a Y7 rated cartoon.

I was shocked also and was like wow also mikes yogurt joke ...seriously no kid would get that..I'm not sure even some adults would get it. "if I wanted culture I'd eat yogurt" haha funny stuff!

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

The Nazi bit was kinda an homage to the Archie comic series. The future turtles actually faught Hitler.

what exactly was said I don't remember but..I'm kinda doubting it was an homage to the archie series.

Originally Posted by Stephen!

But if Darius had wanted Cody dead, he wouldn't have even bothered to intervene at the end of ep02 ......

dude he's a sneaky bad guy they just can't up and kill people...they've gotta plot it out..then tell people about it..then try and do it..then fail.

Originally Posted by The Boardman

If my memory does not fail me, it may get darker for the next episodes and on. At least for the one I have boarded. However nothing like my " Beginning of the End" episode dark(that was a bit much)
have fun.
the Boardman

awsome thanks so much for sharing!! please please please try and sneak some archie TMNT stuff in the background or whatnot it would make so many fans happy!

Originally Posted by Jester

Wow, an inside guy. Welcome to the fold, Boardman. Hope we don't turn you off by our constant griping about TMNT:FF.

it hasn't stoped him thus far he's been around awhile Jester....

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

what exactly was said I don't remember but..I'm kinda doubting it was an homage to the archie series.

The guys were making fun of Mikey's story saying a whole bunch of stuff that the Turtle Titan did... like invent the telephone and fight Nazi's.

Originally Posted by Putrescent

oh and next weeks preview "ughh I'm raph I hate the future!" ahahah what was that a puppet? oh many funnyyy

It was the WWE Raphael/Terrible Turtle action figure that's coming out soon.

[iris]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

I was shocked also and was like wow also mikes yogurt joke ...seriously no kid would get that..I'm not sure even some adults would get it. "if I wanted culture I'd eat yogurt" haha funny stuff!

Yeah, several of the jokes were approaching literati territory. It was like Frasier Crane snuck in and fiddled with the script. I was laughing at the sheer pomposity of the underlying material. Once again, the writers are messing with my brain... I mean, writers, are you kidding?

Cody: It's a traveling museum exhibit. Get it? It's traveling... not because they disassemble it and bring it to different museums, but because the whole thing FLIES! The very nature of the concept is contrary to intuition because it is literal! It's a conceptual pun! BWAHAHA!
Kids at home: *tilt heads in confusion*
Lone kiderati: Yay! Finally something for ME!

Originally Posted by Putrescent

I was wondering where Splinter is at though the entire time but oh well guess we don't need him.

I miss Splinter, but I hear he's having a grand time in the Russian ballet. There's nothing like a lifetime of ninja training to make incomparably graceful figure lines. Luckily, they decided against pressing charges for his little faux pas in Act II of The Nutcracker.

[lambofun]

Originally Posted by iris

I adore Turtle Titan Mikey. So everyone else can go suck eggs.

(I'm so mature today. )


I would really love for the very last scene of the very last ep of FF to be Mikey waking up and going, 'omg I just had the most ****ed up dream!'

i agree, that episode rocked. it was action packed and funny.

[Leonardo Mystic]

Though I didn't particularly like the introduction episode of Turtle Titan in season one, I did like this. I was laughing at several different points in the show. Particularly the scene when Mike tried eating the plastic candy, and then Serling's comments following. Serling really had me amused with his repartee in this episode. Normally he only succeeds in making me roll my eyes, but today he was gold.

It is getting better, slowly but surely. I can already tell a difference between now and a few episodes ago. It's starting to evolve.

[Duke]

I found the episode enjoyable, but I really thought mikey attacking TT was over the top. Mikey being childish & jealous fit his persona but downright attacking a superhero is a bit much.

[R-iZZy]

This episode was so lame that it made me laugh. I still cringe at every "It's Ninja Time" chant, but I do like how TMNT:FF continues to incorporate characters from the past into this arc. It just makes the adventure even more genuine.

And I don't see how anyone could like Sterling and/or Biggles. Geezus, those have to be my two most horrible characters I could imagine. I've discovered something... in the TMNT, I'm a robotist. I hated Nano, I hate Sterling and I hate Biggles. I think I even hate that stupid Turtle X thing that Cody built (though it doesn't really have enough AI to function on its own).

Mikey seemed more immature than I thought he would be. Endangering Turtle Titan II? That just seemed so un-Mikeyish. Attacking him at the police headquarters seemed a little too much for his character. Hell, even putting a cop in danger (though I would've loved to see Biggles explode upon impact after his doomed fall) seemed out of character. The way Mikey's been portrayed throughout this entire season just seems more extreme than before: with his grand theft auto (I guess we know which game he played a lot back in '05), resisting arrest, assault on officers, endangering a cop.

I can actually enjoy seeing the Turtles being less serious, though. They're in a new environment where it's bright and colorful, the characters are unique and different from what they were used to seeing... they finally blend in. The way I see it, this change of attitude that they've taken is justified, in my opinion. As for Splinter, though, he seems a little more laid-back than he should be.

Good action, I like the yellow head's [of Triple Threat] voice... it makes me giggle. But the character is just weird as hell. I mean, c'mon... I was banned from wrestling, so now I'm going to rob banks and f*** people up just seems weird, to me. Bad "super villain" choice, if you ask me. But it was cool seeing Mikey and Turtle Titan II teaming up.

And was it me or did Turtle Titan pull a reverse Michael Jackson on us when he demasked himself? Maybe I wasn't paying attention or something.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by R-iZZy

And was it me or did Turtle Titan pull a reverse Michael Jackson on us when he demasked himself? Maybe I wasn't paying attention or something.

AHA! So I wasn't the only one who noticed that! Seriously I thought the guy was white then POOF he takes off his mask and he's black. Altho not quite as dark as grandpa Silver Sentry so maybe TT2 is mixed??

Oh and I also noticed something. The comics... A Silver Sentry comic used the exact cover of Action Comics #1 and apperantly at one point Nobody got his own Robin.

Silver Sentry gained others too. Silver Sentry Boy (?) and Silver Sentry Girl (?) as well as pets... but his Krypto was orange....