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Old 03-27-2007, 05:32 PM   #1
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Things that could have made FF better

Here is an idea, you had the power to do so, what would you have done to make FF better? The basic concept has it remain the same (the Turtles get sent to the year 2105) but you can change anything else, what would you do?
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:53 PM   #2
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Maybe loosely adapt Mike's Mirage Vol. 4 storyline with the Triceratons and Styracodons. I think there's a lot of potential for the Triceratons in FF but so far all we've seen are cameos. I mean, they go from feared alien conquerers to...delivery boys.

Obviously, the whole "simplified character designs" thing would be an instant no-no. I still think Dong Woo's animation for FF is alright, but the angular redesigns can be a bit unsightly.

NEW THEME SONG.

Make the Dark Turtles a bigger threat. I mean, so far I've only seen "Bad Blood" (all I've seen of FF I watched on that season 1 DVD) and they were a real let down. I'd have given them a much greater skill and power boost so even with their weapons and in a fiar fight they're more than a match for the TMNT, leaving the TMNT to have to work really hard to beat their more powerful adversaries. As it stands, they're no more dangerous than throw-away villains like Triple Threat.

NO "It's Ninja Time!" Ever. Never ever ever ever ever.

Personally, I don't think FF is the anti-christ some have made it out to be, but it definately is a downgrade in quality and could have been much better if they'd just be a little more daring.
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Old 03-30-2007, 01:29 AM   #3
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I have yet to see any of Fast Forward, but I'm guessing from what I've heard, Fast Forward is like the "Goliath Chronicles" of Gargoyles. (... which killed Gargoyles completely, but that's besides the point.)

Am I somewhat correct in that statement someone who has seen both?
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Old 03-30-2007, 06:29 AM   #4
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Two things:
  • Shout something other than "It's Ninja Time" or nothing at all. I'm not saying to never say it, or to always say something, but having the same battle cry every time gets tiring.
  • More episodes set at night. I know the turtles are pretty much free to walk around in the daylight, but they're still ninjas, and I'd like to see more of their ninja stealth.
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Old 03-31-2007, 11:13 PM   #5
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Two things:
  • More episodes set at night. I know the turtles are pretty much free to walk around in the daylight, but they're still ninjas, and I'd like to see more of their ninja stealth.
I agree. I was watching "Cousin Sid" the other day and that episode is great the way the Purple Dragons never see the turtles.
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Old 03-31-2007, 11:26 PM   #6
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Past two episodes of FF haven't blurted the word, its ninja time, at all. Oh and todays episode was at night.

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Old 03-31-2007, 11:34 PM   #7
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Easy:
  • No Cody, Serling
  • Keep their NORMAL weapons
  • Altho they are okay to walk out in broad day light, i think they'd feel a bit exposed. They ain't used to it, hide them in coats like before in the olden days.
  • Original Art, animation style
  • Keep the maturity they all gained in the first 4 seasons
  • Raph does NOT yell Mikey-isms like ninja time
  • better baddies that dont look do dorky. whats with tiny heads and gigantic bodies????
They could have done alot better with FF, they just went the cheap route with what they made. It's just crap.
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Old 04-01-2007, 12:32 AM   #8
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I've just got one thing to say about what could have made FF better.
The Future Shark Trilogy.
EDIT:Ok I'm a liar 2 things!
I'd have liked it more if the future turtles (whom we've yet to even see) brought the guys to the future instead of Codey I think fans would have enjoyed that more.
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:21 AM   #9
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oh that would be cool...course it would be really hard not to find out things about their lives... but yeah I would have liked to see that angle.
If I never heard Ninja time again I'd be a happy fan...
The art and Animation is my other big gripe probably, man I miss the awesome dark shadows and the whole darker mood in general
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Old 04-02-2007, 07:03 PM   #10
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Things that would make FF better would be if it would have been thrown in a trash bin and never put on television!
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Old 04-02-2007, 08:27 PM   #11
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Easy:
  • No Cody, Serling
  • Keep their NORMAL weapons
  • Altho they are okay to walk out in broad day light, i think they'd feel a bit exposed. They ain't used to it, hide them in coats like before in the olden days.
  • Original Art, animation style
  • Keep the maturity they all gained in the first 4 seasons
  • Raph does NOT yell Mikey-isms like ninja time
  • better baddies that dont look do dorky. whats with tiny heads and gigantic bodies????
They could have done alot better with FF, they just went the cheap route with what they made. It's just crap.
Yup, that about sums up the list.

Actually Cody can be okay when they keep him in a supporting role (like April) and quit trying to make him the fifth Turtle.

And NO CONSTABLE BIGGLES! Can't believe no one's mentioned him yet.

The show needs better villains. I really don't like any of them so far. Darius and Viral are okay, and Tripple Threat is mildly amusing. But Jammerhead, the Inuwashi Gungin, and Shokonabo really bore me.

I still don't trust Bishop. He's up to something and we need to know what since he's the only good villain FF has.
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Old 04-05-2007, 02:54 PM   #12
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Technically, Cody should look a lot older than he is. Since they say that kids are maturing a lot earlier and this is 100 yrs in the future .....

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Old 04-05-2007, 07:33 PM   #13
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  • Shout something other than "It's Ninja Time" or nothing at all. I'm not saying to never say it, or to always say something, but having the same battle cry every time gets tiring.
The ninja time thing kinda bugs me too. They could always bring back "Fight with honor." but that will always be a Leonardo line.

The only character that really, really bugs me is Starlie...or however we spell that. It's not her personality exactly, I think it's the name that bothers me. It's like admitting lack of originality.

I don't particularly dislike FF, but I can understand why people do. It was such a drastic, and abrupt change. It's also a step down from what they had. I don't think it was a bad idea, even if it is a very cliche idea, but the timing for it was all wrong.

Still, I think the characters are acting somewhat true to the concept. Someone mentioned maturity levels, but take into consideration that these four teenage boys have never had this kind of freedom. Considering that, I think maybe they adapted too well, and behave themselves a little too much. FF seems a bit toned down, and Care Bear to me. I can't help but wonder if it's the same violence issue they ran into with the first movie. 2k3 (what I've managed to see of it) could be a bit much to handle for really young viewers, and I strongly suspect that to be the reason for the abrupt change. I think the best way to improve not just the series, but the whole damn planet, would be to have it somehow teach parents to be parents, and make them realize they are responsible for their kids. The television is not.
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Old 04-05-2007, 08:18 PM   #14
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I was watching "Cousin Sid" the other day and that episode is great the way the Purple Dragons never see the turtles.
Yes, that was wonderful. They need to do more of that. Actually, they needed to do more of that in the previous seasons, too. Ah well.

So here's to more stealth.
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Old 04-07-2007, 01:48 PM   #15
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Things that could make >> better? Hmm... Sterilization might work.
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Old 04-07-2007, 01:50 PM   #16
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The fans not being so bitchy.
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Old 04-08-2007, 12:09 AM   #17
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The fans not being so bitchy.
ahahahahahahah omg I saw so just going to come in here and post the same things I kid you not man! hahahah
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Old 04-20-2007, 11:52 PM   #18
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Fast forward seems like a last ditch attempt to cash in on the original cartoon's audience.
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:13 AM   #19
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ahahahahahahah omg I saw so just going to come in here and post the same things I kid you not man! hahahah

There gonna remind you of TMNT'S past
Before Fast Forward screwed up it's ass
They'd rather have Ch'rell The Utrom
Hurl a katana sword at Leo
They'd rather see some reencactments
of old age stuff like Savanti Romero
There the angriest crowds you've ever heard
There the biased new series Nerds
There the biased original, MIRAGE Nerds
There the biased TMNT Nerds





Fast Forward? More like FAST FORWARD THROUGH THIS MOTHERF*CKING PEICE OF DOG S*IT, I'D RATHER PLOUGH A TECHNODROME THROUGH CODY JONE'S YEST INFECTED BACKNIE THAN WATCH THIS SHOW.
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:16 AM   #20
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you are an artist. I must say I love your remake.
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