President Bishop

[Spawn Guy]

Or could just tell me what your talking about. Okay, so it's a scene in the show. What happens?

[The Terror of Death]

Its not a scene from an episode its actually one of those short clips they made in season one. They showed some of them on the Foxbox. I dont know if you remember but they were quick bios on most of the main 2k3 characters. It was done by the animators so its not one of those poorly drawn 4kids commercials. In the utrom clip the utroms are basically talking about themselves. One scene showed Abe as an utrom. The mutant nightmare game is the only place where I think you can still look at it.

[gobo]

Only place I ever saw it.

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by gobo

Only place I ever saw it.

I didnt watch the turtles that much when it aired on the foxbox so I dont know if they showed the utrom clip. I did see the april and raph clips though.

[Coola Yagami]

It could lead to a final episode and a major dilemna for the turtles. I mean, c'mon, it's genuis writing. Bishop with some huge master plan, the Turtles gotta stop him, but they're confused and can't kill him cause they know he's gonna be a good guy in the future. Hell, throw Karai into the mix, out to kill him too and have the turtles try to stop her without even knowing why they have to save him in the first place. It's the kind of deep mental dilemna comics go for. It should be a hell of a ride for a cartoon.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It could lead to a final episode and a major dilemna for the turtles. I mean, c'mon, it's genuis writing. Bishop with some huge master plan, the Turtles gotta stop him, but they're confused and can't kill him cause they know he's gonna be a good guy in the future. Hell, throw Karai into the mix, out to kill him too and have the turtles try to stop her without even knowing why they have to save him in the first place. It's the kind of deep mental dilemna comics go for. It should be a hell of a ride for a cartoon.

The dilema might work except Bishop allied himself with the turtles in the two final episodes of season 5 TLS so perhaps there is no more beef there since the turtles and Bishop fight for a similar cause.

[odupianist]

The dilema might work except Bishop allied himself with the turtles in the two final episodes of season 5 TLS so perhaps there is no more beef there since the turtles and Bishop fight for a similar cause.

Yeah I've heard that before, with Karai.

I think the Bishop being Zixx thing could play out interesting. Think about it. He said he couldn't interfere as pres, but as this notorious Zixx, it's quite possible

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by odupianist

I think the Bishop being Zixx thing could play out interesting. Think about it. He said he couldn't interfere as pres, but as this notorious Zixx, it's quite possible

Zixx and Bishop are just way too different. And Bishop asking the turtles to stop Zixx would not make any sense at all.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Exactly.

Bishop: Okay, what'll I do today? I'll try to smuggle something onto Earth for that weird shadow freak. Oh, and I'll hire those pesky Turtles to stop me while I'm at it.

But hey, Coola Yagami's idea kicks butt. Hope the writers use it!

[ZariusTwo]

They won't, FF is finished, it was finished before this idea was implemented, it was finished before these comparisons were made, and presumbly, it's finished with a little saner and sensical plot twist than the one discussed.

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They won't, FF is finished, it was finished before this idea was implemented, it was finished before these comparisons were made, and presumbly, it's finished with a little saner and sensical plot twist than the one discussed.

I could be wrong but I think it was finished 05 or early 06 so its not like any of us thought these ideas would actually happen. It was just one of those "wouldnt it be cool if" type of things.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

I'm wondering if Renet will show up in the last FF episode and send the boys back to the 21st century.

At first I would've bet the farm on it, but since the time window being repaired in "Timing Is Everything," I'm not sure.

[Tora_Chan]

Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

Or could just tell me what your talking about. Okay, so it's a scene in the show. What happens?

It's not actually in the show, but in those little extra clips you can unlock in TMNT 3: Mutant Nightmare. The utrom one is about how they're among us, as neighbors, friends and leaders. And when they mention leaders, they show Lincoln with the glowy eyes.

[kerfootw]

Check my latest reply in the good news/bad news thread. It's a summary of both "Race of Glory" and the following episode consisting of Bishop and Stockman. And the "Fast Forward on Demand" thread of course.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

It's offical: Bishop is a good guy.

Sniff... the end of an era...

[The Terror of Death]

Originally Posted by RaphAttack

It's offical: Bishop is a good guy.

Sniff... the end of an era...

The intro to FF kind of gave it away so its not like no one saw this coming. And Bishop to Knight was an even bigger indication that he had gone legit.

But I agree, it is a sad thing. Bishop was my favorite 2k3 villian so I wanted him to remain a bad guy.

[ZariusTwo]

It's like Parralax from Green Lantern, one of the best "hero to villain" roles ever, and they retconned it and axed Kyle Rayner from his role just to bring back Jordan as a victim and a hero all over again

I don't like Rayner, but he had a young fanbase, and they drove that audience or forced them to accept an older character in the role. Iron Man right now is another great choice for a villain, but you know after "World War Hulk", he'll be allying with Spidey like nothing happened.

Characters like Bishop need to be asses, it's what makes shows different and evovling, not "safe", but sadly that's all FF is, "safe"

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It's like Parralax from Green Lantern, one of the best "hero to villain" roles ever, and they retconned it and axed Kyle Rayner from his role just to bring back Jordan as a victim and a hero all over again

I don't like Rayner, but he had a young fanbase, and they drove that audience or forced them to accept an older character in the role. Iron Man right now is another great choice for a villain, but you know after "World War Hulk", he'll be allying with Spidey like nothing happened.

Characters like Bishop need to be asses, it's what makes shows different and evovling, not "safe", but sadly that's all FF is, "safe"

it's hardly safe when torbin zixx tricked the damn turtles into smuggling bomb parts to faker aliens who plan to destroy the triceratons or has that one slipped your mind?
I still like bishop either way good or bad and he still kicks major ass! And I can see why people want him to be a villian but saying they're playing it safe by making past villians have happy endings and changing is hardly keeping it safe its moving the show and story along evolving it further...if they where indeed playing the safe card bishop would be the same men in black ripp off he always was.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Characters like Bishop need to be asses, it's what makes shows different and evovling, not "safe", but sadly that's all FF is, "safe"

Do you watch the show? I mean really, or do you just make ignorant comments about it? If the show as playing it safe Darius wouldn't be trying to murder his Nephew.

[odupianist]

did I miss something? how did it become official? and we all have to remember, if we follow the Back to the Future thought on time, this can all still change. The TMNT can go back with their knowledge of the future and Bishop can remain a bad guy and not change.