Something overlooked in Fast Forward... - Page 2

*ToTheNines* · 07-23-2007, 02:22 PM

*Shakes fist at gobo* I trusted you...

*gobo* · 07-23-2007, 02:28 PM

You're a Walrus, right? I need to give the authorities an accurate description.

*ToTheNines* · 07-23-2007, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

You're a Walrus, right? I need to give the authorities an accurate description.

Umm... 6'2'' white male, brown hair, suspect is wearing a blue shirt... DOH!

*odupianist* · 07-24-2007, 09:06 AM

I think the TMNT are alive, but they've stayed low key. Not sure why though with all the aliens and such. Bishop seemed interested that they "made it to the future" (wasn't that his line when he first saw them in FF?). Maybe they've gotten in to the time travelling hobby and while the 2k3 TMNT are in 2105, the 2105 TMNT are elsewhere in the space time continuum? Who knows. Either way, I think they're alive.

General Traag · 07-26-2007, 05:02 PM

When they moved to the future they vanished for 100 years and popped up again then, there is no second turtle team. The turtles just didn't exist from their departure in the present to their arrival in the future
(never seen star trek?^^).

If they went into a whole new dimension though they could still exist
(i'm not that familiar with the plot :p ).

*Revan* · 07-26-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by General Traag

When they moved to the future they vanished for 100 years and popped up again then, there is no second turtle team. The turtles just didn't exist from their departure in the present to their arrival in the future
(never seen star trek?^^).

If they went into a whole new dimension though they could still exist
(i'm not that familiar with the plot :p ).

They return to their present time at the end of fast forward. We know because we learn it in the journal. So if they return to the time they left, it would seem as if no time passed.

TerranigmaFreak · 07-26-2007, 05:22 PM

The battle of the thousand swords. Four demons defeated the Damiyo and his entire army... That would make one kickass episode! They could call it Dynasty Turtles!

*gobo* · 07-26-2007, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by General Traag

When they moved to the future they vanished for 100 years and popped up again then, there is no second turtle team. The turtles just didn't exist from their departure in the present to their arrival in the future
(never seen star trek?^^).

Oh, thanks! This was my reason for thinking that they're taking the destiny approach to time in Fast Forward. Supposedly Donatello played a part in creating O'Neil Tech, yet he hasn't lived through that yet. So, while this Star Trek view of time seems more believable (mirrors my own theories of time even though I don't watch Star Trek as a rule), that's apparently not how it works in this franchise. Were that how it works, Cody would have figured, "Oh, so that's why they disappeared ninety-nine years ago!", or the future would start slowly changing to erase the turtles achievments from beyond the point in time Cody accidentally zapped them out of (ala Back to the Future). But, they already set it up in "Time Travails" that it's an intelligent (if you want to call it that) design scenario.

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Originally Posted by TerranigmaFreak

The battle of the thousand swords. Four demons defeated the Damiyo and his entire army... That would make one kickass episode! They could call it Dynasty Turtles!

They should sequelize it twice in that season. The second would be "Dynasty Turtles 2: Dynastier". And, the third will be "Live Free or Dynasty" (since "With Avengeance" makes a lousy pun). ^_^

Time Mistress · 07-26-2007, 10:06 PM

I think the old TMNT would be still alive in Cody's time, but as to why Cody hasn't met the old TMNT yet, um, I'd put that down to one of those time paradoxes - y'know the old "I met you but you haven't met me yet because your future is my past or vice versa" kinds of things.

*Spitfire* · 07-27-2007, 01:35 AM

There's no proof to suggest that they live that long like they do in the comics. I mean the future turtles in "SAINW" were pretty weak and got killed rather fast in battle and they were probably around like 55 or so because they said Don had been gone for 30 years and their 15 in present time. So if their that weak when their 55 or older then they could be finished off easily. That or maybe when they get older their mutation starts to go with them and break down their bodies.

The only other thing I can think of is when they get to be a certain age*Or maybe when April and Casey die*And most likely Splinter as well** The turtles go to live in the Battle Nexus. Or one of the alternate realities*Maybe Usagi's* Because their world had nothing left to offer them. Or they go live with the Ninja Tribunal.

General Traag · 07-27-2007, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

They return to their present time at the end of fast forward. We know because we learn it in the journal. So if they return to the time they left, it would seem as if no time passed.

Ohh, you're right. I didn't take that into consideration (damn timetravelling, allways paradoxa left and right). :p

*odupianist* · 07-27-2007, 07:14 AM

I think it'd be good and bad if they came back to the exact time they left.

good: because it would be like it didnt happen time wise
bad: they would have aged say, a year, in 2 seconds by their current timeline

*CyberCubed* · 07-27-2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

I think it'd be good and bad if they came back to the exact time they left.

good: because it would be like it didnt happen time wise
bad: they would have aged say, a year, in 2 seconds by their current timeline

They should all wind up in April's bathtub like what happened in the comics.

Time Mistress · 07-27-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They should all wind up in April's bathtub like what happened in the comics.

YES! I expected it to happen way back in season two at the end of Secret Origins but they didn't, a wasted opportunity. I would so love it if they could use that gag for the end of FF.

*odupianist* · 07-28-2007, 10:08 AM

Hah it definitely would be classic.

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07-26-2007, 05:22 PM	#27
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07-26-2007, 10:06 PM	#29
Time Mistress Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennshellvania, or the 79th level of Null-Time Posts: 710	I think the old TMNT would be still alive in Cody's time, but as to why Cody hasn't met the old TMNT yet, um, I'd put that down to one of those time paradoxes - y'know the old "I met you but you haven't met me yet because your future is my past or vice versa" kinds of things. __________________ AKA the Edwardian Adventuress and Fairlady_Z "You just made your last mistake, Bugeyes -- 'cuz nobody beats up my best buddy and gets away with it -- Nobody! Got that?!" Raphael about Michaelangelo, TMNT Volume 1

07-27-2007, 01:35 AM	#30
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	There's no proof to suggest that they live that long like they do in the comics. I mean the future turtles in "SAINW" were pretty weak and got killed rather fast in battle and they were probably around like 55 or so because they said Don had been gone for 30 years and their 15 in present time. So if their that weak when their 55 or older then they could be finished off easily. That or maybe when they get older their mutation starts to go with them and break down their bodies. The only other thing I can think of is when they get to be a certain ageOr maybe when April and Casey dieAnd most likely Splinter as well** The turtles go to live in the Battle Nexus. Or one of the alternate realitiesMaybe Usagi's Because their world had nothing left to offer them. Or they go live with the Ninja Tribunal. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

07-23-2007, 02:22 PM	#21
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07-24-2007, 09:06 AM	#24
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	I think the TMNT are alive, but they've stayed low key. Not sure why though with all the aliens and such. Bishop seemed interested that they "made it to the future" (wasn't that his line when he first saw them in FF?). Maybe they've gotten in to the time travelling hobby and while the 2k3 TMNT are in 2105, the 2105 TMNT are elsewhere in the space time continuum? Who knows. Either way, I think they're alive.

07-27-2007, 07:14 AM	#32
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	I think it'd be good and bad if they came back to the exact time they left. good: because it would be like it didnt happen time wise bad: they would have aged say, a year, in 2 seconds by their current timeline

07-28-2007, 10:08 AM	#35
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Hah it definitely would be classic.