Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III: Suprise Subtitle - Page 2

*Andrew NDB* · 08-14-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I guess now we can call the films, Turtles 1, SotO, TinT, and TMNT.

Or... TMNT 1, TMNT 2, TMNT 3, and TMNT 4.

*ToTheNines* · 08-15-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

TMNT 4.

I say TMNT 07 since I don't really consider it to be a sequel to any of the other movies.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-15-2009, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Or... TMNT 1, TMNT 2, TMNT 3, and TMNT 4.

Or like Star Wars. The first movie is now considered the 4th.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-15-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I say TMNT 07 since I don't really consider it to be a sequel to any of the other movies.

That's your thing. The director/writer said it's a sequel.

*ToTheNines* · 08-15-2009, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That's your thing. The director/writer said it's a sequel.

I know, but even he referred to it as a loose sequel. I know it's fiction, but the main problem (among others) is that it's been way too long for them to be as young as they were.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-15-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

but the main problem (among others) is that it's been way too long for them to be as young as they were.

That assumes that the fictional world of the movie TMNT moves in real time. That's a silly thing to assume.

Did 58 years really pass in the story between Alien and Aliens when Ripley was on ice, or the 7 years in real time between films? Did 24 years really pass in the story between Superman II and Superman Returns, because that's how long it was in between movies?

I don't even recall any year titles in the TMNT movies, not that it even matters. They all exist -- like most movie franchises, unless we're told otherwise (like, if things move to a post-apocalyptic future or something) -- in an ever shifting "Present Day." Years can pass in the story, but nothing is tethered to any specific year.

**Jester** · 08-15-2009, 08:21 PM

Yeah, when have the Turtles ever aged in real time....oh wait....

*Andrew NDB* · 08-15-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah, when have the Turtles ever aged in real time....oh wait....

What, the comics? For a couple of years at the beginning of Volume 4. And the beginning of Volume 3 (no longer canon).

TheAnimatedSeries · 08-15-2009, 09:14 PM

The first time I heard TMNT 3 referred to as "Turtles in Time" was on the ninjaturtles.com site back in the '90s. For some reason they would reference it as such in certain areas. This was in like 1997 or so when the Saban show was coming out.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-16-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

That assumes that the fictional world of the movie TMNT moves in real time. That's a silly thing to assume.

Did 58 years really pass in the story between Alien and Aliens when Ripley was on ice, or the 7 years in real time between films? Did 24 years really pass in the story between Superman II and Superman Returns, because that's how long it was in between movies?

I don't even recall any year titles in the TMNT movies, not that it even matters. They all exist -- like most movie franchises, unless we're told otherwise (like, if things move to a post-apocalyptic future or something) -- in an ever shifting "Present Day." Years can pass in the story, but nothing is tethered to any specific year.

Didn't they mention 1603 and 1993 in the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III" movie? I hae a comic book adaption (it's in the basement) and If I'm correct it mentions 1593 and 1993. I know the film is from 1993.

*sdp* · 08-16-2009, 11:35 AM

It wasn't its original subtitle but its always been used unofficially for many years since it was released and its finally been made official. No different than Star Wars becoming Episode IV A New Hope.

turkishproverb · 08-16-2009, 11:54 AM

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The first Turtle flick, while much more detailed, also brings with it some of the worst grain I've seen in a film. WAYYYY more noticable on Blu-Ray, and it is horrendous.

The detail in characters though, look good. However it is so hard to look past with all that grain.

1080p grain = no thanks.

TMNT II looks kinda bright but very detailed. Still haven't popped in part III to check it out.

TMNT I never took out of the box, because I own it on Blu-Ray already.

They didn't really try to remaster the films again, hence the over-graininess.

*ToTheNines* · 08-17-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't even recall any year titles in the TMNT movies, not that it even matters. They all exist -- like most movie franchises, unless we're told otherwise (like, if things move to a post-apocalyptic future or something) -- in an ever shifting "Present Day." Years can pass in the story, but nothing is tethered to any specific year.

Well people in the old movies listen to MC Hammer and Ya kid K, while people in TMNT listen to Cobra Starship and Jet.

But I'm not saying you're wrong at all, just that I personally don't conisder them to be the same universe.

Evenstar227 · 08-18-2009, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

But I'm not saying you're wrong at all, just that I personally don't conisder them to be the same universe.

Isn't the antique Japanese egg timer from 3 shown on a shelf in 4? I'd say that ties them together and puts them in the same universe.

*Spitfire* · 08-18-2009, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Well people in the old movies listen to MC Hammer and Ya kid K, while people in TMNT listen to Cobra Starship and Jet.

But I'm not saying you're wrong at all, just that I personally don't conisder them to be the same universe.

Like me. I consider this movie we're discussing, Turtles 3 to be from an alternate reality. One where turtles is the worst franchise and the idea of a good film and production value is the opposite from ours.

*plastroncafe* · 08-18-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

It wasn't its original subtitle but its always been used unofficially for many years since it was released and its finally been made official. No different than Star Wars becoming Episode IV A New Hope.

Wait...Star Wars was always "Episode IV: A New Hope." It's one of the first things that scrolls up at the very beginning of the movie.

*ToTheNines* · 08-18-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Evenstar227

Isn't the antique Japanese egg timer from 3 shown on a shelf in 4? I'd say that ties them together and puts them in the same universe.

Are you serious? That was a 3 second fanwank. And they still coulda had a time-travelling adventure in the turtle-verse too, but it don't gotta be TMNT III.

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Wait...Star Wars was always "Episode IV: A New Hope." It's one of the first things that scrolls up at the very beginning of the movie.

When the movie first came out in the 70's it was just plain "Star Wars", and was changed a bit later.

*plastroncafe* · 08-18-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

When the movie first came out in the 70's it was just plain "Star Wars", and was changed a bit later.

See...now this I didn't know. And to be honest? This I didn't believe...but then the magic of You Tube taught me the error of my ways. I stand corrected.

In the words of my roommate: "George Lucas change something in one of his movies? I don't believe it!"

Samurai Usagi · 08-23-2009, 12:50 PM

There are props from the first three movies on a shelf in TMNT, Shreddars' Helmet, the Ooze can, the Time Septor. So TMNT is the sequel to the first three. Hindsight is 20/20 after someone makes/watches a movie. The directors see their flaws and they would like to go back change it or learn from it.

*ToTheNines* · 08-23-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Samurai Usagi

There are props from the first three movies on a shelf in TMNT, Shreddars' Helmet, the Ooze can, the Time Septor. So TMNT is the sequel to the first three. Hindsight is 20/20 after someone makes/watches a movie. The directors see their flaws and they would like to go back change it or learn from it.

Ok... so Shredders helmet was only in Turtles 1? I'm pretty sure I've seen it in every Turtle-verse. Same with the ooze, every single comic/show of TMNT had an ooze canister. You can't base continuity on one fu*king prop.

No one acted the same as they did in the old movies, Splinters ear was intact, April was not a reporter, etc, etc. (These are facts, not fan-tribute props).

I'm not excluding this movie because I don't like it, I do like it... things just don't add up to have this thing as a sequel to the original three.

08-15-2009, 08:21 PM	#27
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,293	Yeah, when have the Turtles ever aged in real time....oh wait.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-15-2009, 09:14 PM	#29
TheAnimatedSeries Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 158	The first time I heard TMNT 3 referred to as "Turtles in Time" was on the ninjaturtles.com site back in the '90s. For some reason they would reference it as such in certain areas. This was in like 1997 or so when the Saban show was coming out. __________________ ...but thats just one black mans opinion. Whats yours? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III is better than SOTO and the 2007 movie. You would know that if you were a gangster.

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sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,137	It wasn't its original subtitle but its always been used unofficially for many years since it was released and its finally been made official. No different than Star Wars becoming Episode IV A New Hope. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

08-23-2009, 12:50 PM	#39
Samurai Usagi Random Punk Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Macon, Georgia Posts: 47	There are props from the first three movies on a shelf in TMNT, Shreddars' Helmet, the Ooze can, the Time Septor. So TMNT is the sequel to the first three. Hindsight is 20/20 after someone makes/watches a movie. The directors see their flaws and they would like to go back change it or learn from it. __________________ Raphael: [about Usagi] He's not only from an alternate dimension, but also ancient Japan. So naturally, he speaks English.