What did you think of Leo/Radical and Casey/Karai being pushed? - Page 2

*CyberCubed* · 01-26-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I do guarantee you this issue was during that period of time that Laird wasn't personally signing off on scripts.

I was pretty sure PL said before that "human/turtle relationships" were not allowed in his "TMNT laws."

Still he had to know it was in there as the issue was being completed.

*plastroncafe* · 01-26-2010, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I was pretty sure PL said before that "human/turtle relationships" were not allowed in his "TMNT laws."

Still he had to know it was in there as the issue was being completed.

Guess that kind of puts Lucindra, and the chick from Dooney's Election issue on notice too, huh?

*Cipher* · 01-26-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Oroku_CJJ

Do you care enough to try and get that verified?

Well, there's the fact that he's said multiple times no human/Turtle nasty was a hard and fast rule. That, and Complete Carnage actually got to be in an issue for once.

jaymq · 01-26-2010, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Wasn't Lawson, 'twas Dumais.

Ah, Damn. I read Lawson's name somewhere along the thread. Misread. My bad. Probably why the issue didn't bug me so much.

*Spitfire* · 01-27-2010, 02:19 AM

It's funny Murph wrote "Swan Song" and it was one of the last turtles stories he wrote. He co-wrote "The Amulet" and after that he just did two Cowboys of Moo Mesa crossovers. He went from writing several issues in a row to almost nothing at all. I wonder if the huge fan back lash had anything to do with that. It was either that or he wanted to piss us off because he was all burnt out on turtles and being emo about it.

Anyways I thought "Swan Song" was pretty lame. The art was okay but like others said the romance wasn't there and it just appeared to be totally random. I was also annoyed by how fast Complete Carnage killed Radical. Casey and Karai I can accept though even that seems kinda random. Karai bringing random men home to sleep with, especially men that were previously considered an enemy. I assume there's some other motive behind this happening. I'll have to see where it goes before I judge it. At least Casey was drunk and Karai is a human. I don't know what's up with Leo and Radical.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-27-2010, 03:27 AM

maybe Murphy felt Mikey was not the only one to get nookie

the story didn't really catch my attention (guess turtle\human relationship no longer affect me after all my time on dA), except for being the story showing us when Leo voe never to kill again.

*ToTheNines* · 01-27-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

It was either that or he wanted to piss us off because he was all burnt out on turtles and being emo about it.

While that kinda does make sense... I don't think so. While Murphy is a very versatile writer, I find him to be very "hit or miss". I think this was just more of a miss.

*Coola Yagami* · 01-27-2010, 08:05 PM

Doesn't bother me other than the fact that Radical was totally random. Like mentioned they never really had any romantic tension between them. It would be like hooking up Raph with that woman that set Hun free.

But of course, I dunno, it might sound sick, but hey the Turtles are human-like. If we are to believe them as realistic characters in the rheir stories, they have to show a certain desire once in a while. Even Mikey got some nookie. I figured the turtles were turned human-like and were around humans more often than any other species throughout their lives that it would make them sense for them to show desire for a human female rather than some weird-ass alien creature that wasn't at least turtle-like or reptilian in nature.

*CyberCubed* · 01-30-2010, 03:35 PM

So does anyone think that Karai really slept with Casey? The way her dialogue went it made it seem that way, but who really knows. I'm still wondering why PL is giving us clues that something is wrong with Karai, yet we're waiting forever to find out what it is.

*discordiatookie* · 01-30-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So does anyone think that Karai really slept with Casey? The way her dialogue went it made it seem that way, but who really knows. I'm still wondering why PL is giving us clues that something is wrong with Karai, yet we're waiting forever to find out what it is.

Well, Casey was pretty wasted, i'd imagine that Karai came into the room all geared up, only to find him totally crashed out, snoring his head off.

*odupianist* · 02-01-2010, 09:10 AM

What would be the point for Karai to sleep with Casey other than blackmail though?

*Andrew NDB* · 02-01-2010, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

What would be the point for Karai to sleep with Casey other than blackmail though?

Just to take a ride on his disco stick? Or his hockey stick?

*Candy Kappa* · 02-01-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Just to take a ride on his disco stick? Or his hockey stick?

playing golf with his woods?

*Coola Yagami* · 02-01-2010, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

What would be the point for Karai to sleep with Casey other than blackmail though?

Pleasing her own desires taking advantage of such a rare opportunity? We know little of her life other than the fact that she runs the Foot. We know she's not a virgin cause she had a daughter. I dunno, maybe she hasn't had any for a few years?

PAAATE · 02-02-2010, 01:02 AM

Maybe Casey is horsecocked. Someone should ask Eastman or Laird

*Candy Kappa* · 02-02-2010, 01:40 AM

after swan song I got more curious how Leo and radical got together, and why those two.

*Cipher* · 02-02-2010, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiwamu The Kappa

after swan song I got more curious how Leo and radical got together, and why those two.

I'm not sure there was any major rationale behind it other than them both playing the honorable warrior archetype. And it set up a convenient vengeance story.

Also, I read "Swan Song" again the other day. Seriously, I don't get why it's such a hated issue. How can people splooge all over future Raph at the end of "A Day in the Life" but completely ignore awesome moments like Leo and Radical reflecting at the neon buffalo and farm house?

Also, also, I remain deeply unconvinced that Casey and Karai did the deed. It's too obvious. And say what you will about Volume 4, but it's been anything but obvious with its plot.

Dragon Turtle · 02-02-2010, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

We know she's not a virgin cause she had a daughter. I dunno, maybe she hasn't had any for a few years?

While not official, given the her "daughter's" age, it may be speculated she was adopted.

*Andrew NDB* · 02-02-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon Turtle

While not official, given the her "daughter's" age, it may be speculated she was adopted.

What, like 20? It's possible. But Karai had to be fairly older in years (I'm thinking mid 40s) in "City at War" to have the chutzpah enough to become leader of not just one branch, or two, but the entire Foot Clan.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 02-02-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PAAATE

Maybe Casey is horsecocked. Someone should ask Eastman or Laird

Well, Casey is Eastman's dopple-ganger, so he'd be the one to ask...

01-27-2010, 02:19 AM	#25
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	It's funny Murph wrote "Swan Song" and it was one of the last turtles stories he wrote. He co-wrote "The Amulet" and after that he just did two Cowboys of Moo Mesa crossovers. He went from writing several issues in a row to almost nothing at all. I wonder if the huge fan back lash had anything to do with that. It was either that or he wanted to piss us off because he was all burnt out on turtles and being emo about it. Anyways I thought "Swan Song" was pretty lame. The art was okay but like others said the romance wasn't there and it just appeared to be totally random. I was also annoyed by how fast Complete Carnage killed Radical. Casey and Karai I can accept though even that seems kinda random. Karai bringing random men home to sleep with, especially men that were previously considered an enemy. I assume there's some other motive behind this happening. I'll have to see where it goes before I judge it. At least Casey was drunk and Karai is a human. I don't know what's up with Leo and Radical. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

01-27-2010, 03:27 AM	#26
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	maybe Murphy felt Mikey was not the only one to get nookie the story didn't really catch my attention (guess turtle\human relationship no longer affect me after all my time on dA), except for being the story showing us when Leo voe never to kill again. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

01-27-2010, 08:05 PM	#28
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,685	Doesn't bother me other than the fact that Radical was totally random. Like mentioned they never really had any romantic tension between them. It would be like hooking up Raph with that woman that set Hun free. But of course, I dunno, it might sound sick, but hey the Turtles are human-like. If we are to believe them as realistic characters in the rheir stories, they have to show a certain desire once in a while. Even Mikey got some nookie. I figured the turtles were turned human-like and were around humans more often than any other species throughout their lives that it would make them sense for them to show desire for a human female rather than some weird-ass alien creature that wasn't at least turtle-like or reptilian in nature. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

02-02-2010, 01:02 AM	#35
PAAATE Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 993	Maybe Casey is horsecocked. Someone should ask Eastman or Laird __________________ I'm a member. I forgot about it, so now I'm a remember.

02-02-2010, 01:40 AM	#36
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	after swan song I got more curious how Leo and radical got together, and why those two. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

01-30-2010, 03:35 PM	#29
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,825	So does anyone think that Karai really slept with Casey? The way her dialogue went it made it seem that way, but who really knows. I'm still wondering why PL is giving us clues that something is wrong with Karai, yet we're waiting forever to find out what it is.

02-01-2010, 09:10 AM	#31
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	What would be the point for Karai to sleep with Casey other than blackmail though?