If the new movie was the OT in live action?

[sdp]

Ok before everyone hates on this...

Lets say Paramount changes the new movie to be based more on the OT. Now before you think it as a lame kids movie...It would be live action and based on the OT but it'd be a serious take on it. You'd have Krang/Rocksteady/Beebop/technodrome all in the movie so it wouldn't be based on the Mirage comics however like I mentioned it wouldn't be kiddified it'd still be PG/PG-13 trying to get that older target audience as well, similar to Transformers was marketed.

Now this would be a sure hit since this is what everyone who grew up with the turtles want, a new movie based on the show/version they watched as kids but made "also" for adults not just kids. We all know we're in a minority and most don't know or care that the turtles did not start as a cartoon and thats not the version they want to see.

Personally I don't think it'd be that bad, it'd be nice to see a more serious interpretation of the OT, in fact when the OT was serious it still worked and was awesome.

[The Stryker]

I don't want to see a serious version of Bebop and Rocksteady. Their whole appeal is being stupid.

Also, this idea sounds a lot like that fan project that nobody cares about.

[sdp]

I'm saying a serious take on the OT, Rocksteady and Beebop would obviously still be stupid. Just because the Transformers movie is more serious doesn't mean its humorless.

I don't see how it sounds like a fan project, its definitely something that could happen and nobody cares about? besides comic geeks and the hardcore TMNT fandom, to people the TMNT ARE the OT, and thats what they want to see in a movie.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by sdp

If the new movie was the OT in live action?

>_< I read that wrong. I came in here thinking you were asking what if first movie had been just the original 'toon in live-action. If that had been the case (like I'm sure the suits wanted), I probably wouldn't be a fan today. It was the occasional shots of dignity in the franchise (Archie, Usagi eps, etc) that kept me coming back.

P.S. - The 'Party Van' back at SDCC '09 had little trivia facts flash on a monitor inside. It said original plans were to use Bebop & Rocksteady as the mutants in SotO. So glad they didn't...

Originally Posted by sdp

Just because the Transformers movie is more serious doesn't mean its humorless.

O_o Bad example... The Transformers movies were the only part of that franchise that weren't humorless. As hard as I tried to wedge myself into that fandom, I could never sit through an entire ep of any related series for that reason.

[CyberCubed]

Isn't this "Dawn of the Ninja" thing that someone is already working on?

[Cipher]

Well, as far as Fred Wolf elements, you know what I've always liked? Baxter as a fly. That's something I've always felt could work in a more "serious" version of the Turtles. For example, they could keep his initial character role from the comics, but have him experiment in mutagenics after encountering the Turtles. Or, whatever, something.

It's right in line with all the sci-fi pastiche of TMNT, gives them an iconic villain, and was pretty sick sh*t even in the kids' cartoon. It's not that much higher than cyborg Baxter on the ridiculousness scale either.

[Kendamu]

Hey, if Paramount makes an OT-style movie and it's at least as good as the first season of the OT, I've got no problems. I just hope it doesn't take a few sudden dives at various points like the actual OT did. So, yeah, not quite a "serious" take... more like a "high quality take."

[Walkabout]

If they did-it would be awesome.

A blending of the different versions (Splinter as a rat, Shredder as a human, Krang as an Utrom) would be a real hit-well I mean Id go and see/buy it

[Gyt Kaliba]

I could totally get behind this idea. That's what's keeping me interested in the new toon that Nick's working on (other than interest just cuz it's the Turtles too), is what I keep hearing about it taking elements and/or characters from the old toon and re-imagning them. I'd love to see another take at Rocksteady, Bebop, and Krang. Heck, I'll even take April as a reporter again. I can do without the Neutrinoes though...but maybe that's just me.

On SotO though, I'm glad they went Tokka and Rahzar instead of Rocksteady and Bebop as well, simply cuz I've always liked Tokka and Rahzar. It was nice to get another batch of mutants.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

Ok before everyone hates on this...

Oops. Too late.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by Stryker

I don't want to see a serious version of Bebop and Rocksteady. Their whole appeal is being stupid.

Also, this idea sounds a lot like that fan project that nobody cares about.

It would still be awesome to see a meaner badder take on Bebop and Rocksteady. This way they would be more of a threat.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Turo602

It would still be awesome to see a meaner badder take on Bebop and Rocksteady. This way they would be more of a threat.

But I don't give a sh*t about them being more of a threat.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Turo602

It would still be awesome to see a meaner badder take on Bebop and Rocksteady. This way they would be more of a threat.

But what's the point? If you wanna see mean mother fuc*in gang members, wouldn't it be better to have brand new gang members... that aren't bogged down by stupid nick-names names or cosplay outfits?

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

But what's the point? If you wanna see mean mother fuc*in gang members, wouldn't it be better to have brand new gang members... that aren't bogged down by stupid nick-names names or cosplay outfits?

I don't know, I always saw Bebop and Rocksteady as mutated Purple Dragons. It would be a cool idea to have an OT type of movie but also have a violent and more dark take but also humorous.

[Lord Nightwalker]

If the new film were the OT TMNT, I wouldn't watch it.

[Venom]

As a kid I was disappointed it wasn't Bebop and Rocksteady in the cages.

The concept of them being meaner and badder could work. The characters themselves come from violent backgrounds so it's not impossible to see them as being more competent, threatening individuals. Tristan even had a story to use them, albeit as giant aliens but still!

[Andrew NDB]

I'll say the same thing I said in a comics thread about potentially importing "badass" Mirage-versions of Bebop and Rocksteady into the existing Mirage comic universe:

To me, it's just a pretty creatively bankrupt idea.

I mean, I get that nostalgiacs want that "OS Fix" of seeing their favorite children's cartoon TMNT characters like Bebop and Rocksteady again... but if they have to be "serioused up" and converted into real, credible threats, things that they were never created or intended to be... then why use them at all? Why not make new characters and villains that fit the mold of the serious, credible threats, or look to the actual source material for closer-fit matches that don't require any massive retooling?

The concept of them being meaner and badder could work. The characters themselves come from violent backgrounds so it's not impossible to see them as being more competent, threatening individuals. Tristan even had a story to use them, albeit as giant aliens but still!

If I remember, they weren't going to be aliens. They were to be the actual, OS Bebop and Rocksteady, visiting the Mirage "dimension" from presumably the OS "Dimension" in the TMNT multiverse. Wasn't a bad idea at all, really... and why not? Multiversal crossovers can be a lot of fun, as DC has taught us to varying results (some great stories out of the 70s, and Grant Morrison's "Earth-2" is awesome). It's only the idea and prospect of, "Let's make an actual Mirage universe Bebop and Rocksteady" that makes me think about investing in some ipicac.

[sdp]

Well that is not what I mean though...

They HAVE to be Beebop and Rocksteady because that is what the 80s show had, if you replace them then its no longer based on the 80s show.

Also when I meant a serious take on the character I meant that they'd make the movie appeal to both kids and the kids who grew up with it. Think of all the recent movies like that and even superhero movies. The Spiderman movies are not grimdark yet they appeal to both kids as well as the older demographic. This wouldn't be a grimdark version of the 80s show but a more serious take to be able to appeal to both demographics.

[Turo602]

Yeah but that doesn't mean that Bebop and Rocksteady have to be mentally challenged

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Turo602

Yeah but that doesn't mean that Bebop and Rocksteady have to be mentally challenged

Yes. Yes, it does.