Why didn't they ever show a flashback of how Shredder and Krang met?

*CyberCubed* · 08-05-2010, 11:50 AM

I always assumed Krang crash-landed on his spaceship after being banished from Dimension X, and landed somewhere in Japan where Shredder was originally in charge of the Foot Clan.

Krang probably impressed Shredder with his knowledge of alien weapons and such, and probably formed an alliance. But this was never made clear:

- Why did Shredder relocate to NYC?

- How did the Technodrome get to Earth? In Season 8 we find out Berserko helped design the Technodrome, but was it transported from Dimension X to Earth? Or was it originally built on Earth?

- How did Krang convince Shredder to abandon the human Foot Clan and make a bunch of robot soldiers instead?

- How did Krang survive after his body was destroyed?

- Did Krang promise Shredder new worlds to conquer after taking over Earth?

*Prowler* · 08-05-2010, 12:04 PM

Yeah, it's a shame we never got to know how they met. But as for your "Krang crashing on japan and meeting Shredder" theory: Shredder told the Turtles in the 2nd episode of Season 1 that he was only able to get advanced technology when he moved to NYC, so that's probably when he met Krang.

I guess the Technodrome moved from Dimention X to Earth by a transdimentional portal.

As for Shredder abandoning the Foot, Shredder alwas wanted to take over the world and it would be hard to take it over with just an army of Ninjas, with robotic ninjas they could mass produce them.

And remember in the first season Krang told Shredder that he gave him vast technological equipment in trade of Shredder building him a new body.

hudemx · 08-05-2010, 12:25 PM

Well simple:
It's an 80s Cartoon and kids had imagination back then!

Not everything was suposed to be told, because the Writers may thought: It's a cartoon - The kids will make up their own stuff.

That is sth I like about 80s Cartoons, they give a brief back story and BAMM - the rest is up to you.
Centurions, G.I.Joe (Sunbow Cartoon) , Saber Rider, Galaxy Rangers, Bionic Six etc. did it and Fans made up their own story and often had discussions.

Hell, even I had my own Story about Krang and Shredder met as well as how Krang got banished and lost his body (which was to this date in my opinion never a biological Body but rather a andoid body in style of the Bubble-Walker he used later on)

Today everything has to be explained, no mysteries anymore...

Well TV Shows change and so do I...maybe I'm simply getting old...

*gobo* · 08-05-2010, 12:45 PM

"If not for me, Hamato Yoshi would never have left Japan. I followed him to this country where I gained my advanced technology including my rare, experimental mutagen." ~Shredder from "ENTER THE SHREDDER"

So, he got all his tech in America.

*Sage Ninja* · 08-05-2010, 02:05 PM

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As for Shredder abandoning the Foot, Shredder alwas wanted to take over the world and it would be hard to take it over with just an army of Ninjas, with robotic ninjas they could mass produce them.

too bad the foot bots ended up being such a sh*tty down grade from human soldiers.

*Eiko* · 08-05-2010, 08:35 PM

Maybe Krang and Shredder met in a nightclub you can meet a lot of weirdos in nightclubs lol.

Herald7 · 08-05-2010, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

How did Krang convince Shredder to abandon the human Foot Clan and make a bunch of robot soldiers instead?

Well you don't have to pay the robots...not that Shredder would have anyway!

*TheCanadiandrome* · 08-05-2010, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eiko

Maybe Krang and Shredder met in a nightclub you can meet a lot of weirdos in nightclubs lol.

well Krang did mention a fondness for nightclubbing

Herald7 · 08-05-2010, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNT_Canadian

well Krang did mention a fondness for nightclubbing

Hmm that would explain a lot actually, lol.

*Redeemer* · 08-05-2010, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I always assumed Krang crash-landed on his spaceship after being banished from Dimension X, and landed somewhere in Japan where Shredder was originally in charge of the Foot Clan.

Krang probably impressed Shredder with his knowledge of alien weapons and such, and probably formed an alliance. But this was never made clear:

- Why did Shredder relocate to NYC?

- How did the Technodrome get to Earth? In Season 8 we find out Berserko helped design the Technodrome, but was it transported from Dimension X to Earth? Or was it originally built on Earth?

- How did Krang convince Shredder to abandon the human Foot Clan and make a bunch of robot soldiers instead?

- How did Krang survive after his body was destroyed?

- Did Krang promise Shredder new worlds to conquer after taking over Earth?

Shredder relocated to NYC bc Splinter A.K.A Hamato Yoshi moved there and he followed him there to complete his vengence.

*sdp* · 08-06-2010, 12:39 PM

Its a big missed opportunity, I mean you assume Krang gave him the technology for him to conquer earth in exchange for him getting a body this is also why he helped the turtles to further pressure shredder into finishing his body.. but yeah I guess thats how shows worked back then, theres plenty of other characters we never got any back stories from.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-06-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

"If not for me, Hamato Yoshi would never have left Japan. I followed him to this country where I gained my advanced technology including my rare, experimental mutagen." ~Shredder from "ENTER THE SHREDDER"

So, he got all his tech in America.

Yes. I always imagined Shredder meeting Krang after leaving Japan and moving to the USA. I also imagine the Technodrome, with Krang inside, being teleported from Dimension X to the Milky Way Galaxy, where it ended up in some underground cave deep below the USA.

*Prowler* · 08-07-2010, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Herald7

Hmm that would explain a lot actually, lol.

I only recall Shredder calling Krang on his com "Krang, are you there?" and Krang replying "Where else should I be? Nightclubbing?!"

*gobo* · 08-07-2010, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

I only recall Shredder calling Krang on his com "Krang, are you there?" and Krang replying "Where else should I be? Nightclubbing?!"

I watched that'n day before yesterday, in my marathon. I coulda named the ep for you yesterday, but they're so hard to keep separated in your memory.

Actually, I shoulda posted the title yesterday when I read that and thought, "I wonder if he's talking about that one?"

Too late now...

Wingnut · 08-07-2010, 02:32 PM

They had to meet in NYC...or maybe on the Sunset Strip. Those are the only two places where you could walk around looking like they do and not catch any heat.

**Krang** · 08-07-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

I watched that'n day before yesterday, in my marathon. I coulda named the ep for you yesterday, but they're so hard to keep separated in your memory.

Actually, I shoulda posted the title yesterday when I read that and thought, "I wonder if he's talking about that one?"

Too late now...

That quote is from the season 3 episode "April's Fool."

*gobo* · 08-08-2010, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Krang

That quote is from the season 3 episode "April's Fool."

... Show-off.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 08-09-2010, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

too bad the foot bots ended up being such a sh*tty down grade from human soldiers.

They showed some human Foot soldiers in the Japan flashback, shouting "-Hands up" (since that's before Shredder and Krang met).

METALHEAD · 08-09-2010, 05:44 PM

theres always fanfiction

Rise1184 · 08-10-2010, 08:06 AM

Good question, I can't recall an episode of how they actually met.. I guess its up for us to imagine!

08-05-2010, 11:50 AM	#1
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,823	Why didn't they ever show a flashback of how Shredder and Krang met? I always assumed Krang crash-landed on his spaceship after being banished from Dimension X, and landed somewhere in Japan where Shredder was originally in charge of the Foot Clan. Krang probably impressed Shredder with his knowledge of alien weapons and such, and probably formed an alliance. But this was never made clear: - Why did Shredder relocate to NYC? - How did the Technodrome get to Earth? In Season 8 we find out Berserko helped design the Technodrome, but was it transported from Dimension X to Earth? Or was it originally built on Earth? - How did Krang convince Shredder to abandon the human Foot Clan and make a bunch of robot soldiers instead? - How did Krang survive after his body was destroyed? - Did Krang promise Shredder new worlds to conquer after taking over Earth?

08-05-2010, 12:25 PM	#3
hudemx Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Klagenfurt Posts: 371	Well simple: It's an 80s Cartoon and kids had imagination back then! Not everything was suposed to be told, because the Writers may thought: It's a cartoon - The kids will make up their own stuff. That is sth I like about 80s Cartoons, they give a brief back story and BAMM - the rest is up to you. Centurions, G.I.Joe (Sunbow Cartoon) , Saber Rider, Galaxy Rangers, Bionic Six etc. did it and Fans made up their own story and often had discussions. Hell, even I had my own Story about Krang and Shredder met as well as how Krang got banished and lost his body (which was to this date in my opinion never a biological Body but rather a andoid body in style of the Bubble-Walker he used later on) Today everything has to be explained, no mysteries anymore... Well TV Shows change and so do I...maybe I'm simply getting old... __________________ German TMNT News Blog: http://ninjaturtlepower.wordpress.com/

08-05-2010, 12:45 PM	#4
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	"If not for me, Hamato Yoshi would never have left Japan. I followed him to this country where I gained my advanced technology including my rare, experimental mutagen." ~Shredder from "ENTER THE SHREDDER" So, he got all his tech in America. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

08-05-2010, 08:35 PM	#6
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	Maybe Krang and Shredder met in a nightclub you can meet a lot of weirdos in nightclubs lol. __________________

08-06-2010, 12:39 PM	#11
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,191	Its a big missed opportunity, I mean you assume Krang gave him the technology for him to conquer earth in exchange for him getting a body this is also why he helped the turtles to further pressure shredder into finishing his body.. but yeah I guess thats how shows worked back then, theres plenty of other characters we never got any back stories from. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

08-05-2010, 12:04 PM	#2
Prowler Emperor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,998	Yeah, it's a shame we never got to know how they met. But as for your "Krang crashing on japan and meeting Shredder" theory: Shredder told the Turtles in the 2nd episode of Season 1 that he was only able to get advanced technology when he moved to NYC, so that's probably when he met Krang. I guess the Technodrome moved from Dimention X to Earth by a transdimentional portal. As for Shredder abandoning the Foot, Shredder alwas wanted to take over the world and it would be hard to take it over with just an army of Ninjas, with robotic ninjas they could mass produce them. And remember in the first season Krang told Shredder that he gave him vast technological equipment in trade of Shredder building him a new body.

08-07-2010, 02:32 PM	#15
Wingnut Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pao Pao Café Posts: 1,264	They had to meet in NYC...or maybe on the Sunset Strip. Those are the only two places where you could walk around looking like they do and not catch any heat. __________________ "I'll be what I wanna do."

08-09-2010, 05:44 PM	#19
METALHEAD Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: san benito texas Posts: 734	theres always fanfiction __________________ i ship it.

08-10-2010, 08:06 AM	#20
Rise1184 Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: The Great Valley Posts: 260	Good question, I can't recall an episode of how they actually met.. I guess its up for us to imagine! __________________ "He's wrong.. We're NOT wearing costumes."