Anyone Feel Bishop was written too strong?

Shred87 · 08-03-2010, 02:59 PM

I love the character personally but I happened to see the Hun on the Run episode and during the final fight scene Bishop is fighting off all 4 turtles Karai and Hun. Very rarely did he take any hits. I always thought Shredder/Splinter should be the best skilled fighters. It just seemed a little off that in a fight scene with Shredder all the turtles are able to get hits in and they really can't even touch Bishop. Anyone else feel that way?

jaymq · 08-03-2010, 03:56 PM

*incoherent mumbles about how awesome Bishop is*

Huh... oh.. No

Shred87 · 08-03-2010, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by moosandra

*incoherent mumbles about how awesome Bishop is*

Huh... oh.. No

hmm lol... i dont quite know what to make of your response whether this has been discussed before or if your just breaking them on me...

jaymq · 08-03-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shred87

hmm lol... i dont quite know what to make of your response whether this has been discussed before or if your just breaking them on me...

Ahaha, ok. My response wasn't serious at all actually. I'm one of the fan girls that thinks Bishop's the greatest thing evar. <3

Ninja Tiptup · 08-03-2010, 07:25 PM

Honestly I loved that Bishop was such a worthy adversary even compared to The Shredder at points. The dude was bad ass. Having a government agent mop the flour with the turtles so easily was a pleasant surprise.

*Eiko* · 08-03-2010, 07:32 PM

Bishop is the best my fav villain and being the Turtles worst nightmare and able to take them on is just darn right cool.

Shred87 · 08-03-2010, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Tiptup

Honestly I loved that Bishop was such a worthy adversary even compared to The Shredder at points. The dude was bad ass. Having a government agent mop the flour with the turtles so easily was a pleasant surprise.

I guess he had to be potrayed this way now that I think about to give his character some legitimacy. I must say if the 2k3 series accomplished one thing it's the introduction of this character. He is a vicious and original villian for the turtles. With I still think he was too strong at points lol. In a single scene he's slapping around 2 battle nexus champs as well as Hun, Karai and the rest of the turtles.. It's almost too unbelieveable that any of he plans were ever stopped...

FlawedCoil82 · 08-06-2010, 02:05 AM

I liked how tough Bishop was. Though I do agree, I find it hard to believe that he was able to hold off all 4 turtles, Hun and Karai in that one battle without breaking much of a sweat (even though it's one of my favorites from the entire series). However, I found their fights with Bishop to be more entertaining than the ones with Shredder. When Shredder fought the turtles, they were pretty much out of the fight with one punch, whereas with Bishop they seemed to get up much faster and rejoin the fights. The most interesting battle between the turtles and Shredder, was sadly in "Bad Day" because that fight was more similar to the newer fights they had had with Bishop.

*Scandia* · 08-06-2010, 05:16 AM

Not really. He was not quite invincible- though he did live a long time. He had weaknesses.

I DID put him as Napoleon Bonaparte in one of the "TMNT vs. _________ " in another thread, though.

Rat A Tat · 08-06-2010, 06:27 AM

I think it's fair to say that Bishop has had a fair amount of genetic enhancement and the like. His abilities are probably more engineered than they are trained.

Bishop was always my favorite villian in the series. Although his character took a pretty lame turn in FF, in my opinion.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 08-06-2010, 06:41 PM

I wish Bishop would of been featured in BTTS. That "cameo" in the final episode wasn't enough.

BoggleKng · 08-06-2010, 06:47 PM

I thought it was nice to see a character kick the Turtle's butt once in awhile.. Not too strong, no...

jaymq · 08-06-2010, 07:00 PM

I loved the turtles/Karai/Hun fight. And yes, he is crazy genetically enhanced is fine enough background for me. I wish we had learned more about him though, he is my all-time favorite villain in TMNT.

The best part? He's also intelligent. he doesn't try to bite off more than he can chew. He could see that he was outnumbered and opted for a strategic retreat on that fight.

Most other villains don't get this.

One reason I wish Zixx was written more intelligently actually. His concept? Great. But I didn't care for the character in the end though.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 08-07-2010, 12:12 AM

I wish we would of saw a Utrom Shredder vs. Bishop showdown. I think Bishop could of taken him. BTW, do you think Bishop knew he was an Utrom?

jaymq · 08-07-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

I wish we would of saw a Utrom Shredder vs. Bishop showdown. I think Bishop could of taken him. BTW, do you think Bishop knew he was an Utrom?

I think so, he was there when Shredder was planning on leaving the planet. But it's been a while since I saw those particular episodes.

*shuriken* · 08-07-2010, 01:51 PM

I'm not sure if he knew he was an Utrom or not, just that he was equipped with alien tech and was a threat to the Earth. I liked that Bishop was so quick and skilled, yet not a powerhouse like Hun or Shredder.

Shred87 · 08-07-2010, 03:00 PM

im going to have to say that bishop didnt know he was a utrom. I remember when Bishop kidnapped Karai and he tapped into SHreds place he mention everything about him EXCEPT the fact that he was a Utrom...heck even hun didnt know until he saw it with his own 2 eyes

k_lala · 08-12-2010, 06:53 PM

I think everyone was waiting for a Bishop vs Shredder matchup, that never happened! That would have been sweet!!

$HREDDER · 08-13-2010, 01:15 AM

If SHREDDER fought BISHOP I would still have to vote for SHREDDER ,but bishop was damn good,maybe he was a little too strong.

*Redeemer* · 08-13-2010, 11:09 AM

I have to agree. He was written a little to strong. But I dont think he should have been written weak either. Just not quite that strong.

08-03-2010, 02:59 PM	#1
Shred87 Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 467	Anyone Feel Bishop was written too strong? I love the character personally but I happened to see the Hun on the Run episode and during the final fight scene Bishop is fighting off all 4 turtles Karai and Hun. Very rarely did he take any hits. I always thought Shredder/Splinter should be the best skilled fighters. It just seemed a little off that in a fight scene with Shredder all the turtles are able to get hits in and they really can't even touch Bishop. Anyone else feel that way?

08-03-2010, 03:56 PM	#2
jaymq Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 435	incoherent mumbles about how awesome Bishop is Huh... oh.. No __________________ Nom

08-03-2010, 07:25 PM	#5
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	Honestly I loved that Bishop was such a worthy adversary even compared to The Shredder at points. The dude was bad ass. Having a government agent mop the flour with the turtles so easily was a pleasant surprise. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

08-03-2010, 07:32 PM	#6
Eiko Aussie and Proud Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Foot HQ Australia Posts: 1,816	Bishop is the best my fav villain and being the Turtles worst nightmare and able to take them on is just darn right cool. __________________

08-06-2010, 05:16 AM	#9
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Not really. He was not quite invincible- though he did live a long time. He had weaknesses. I DID put him as Napoleon Bonaparte in one of the "TMNT vs. _________ " in another thread, though. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

08-06-2010, 02:05 AM	#8
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	I liked how tough Bishop was. Though I do agree, I find it hard to believe that he was able to hold off all 4 turtles, Hun and Karai in that one battle without breaking much of a sweat (even though it's one of my favorites from the entire series). However, I found their fights with Bishop to be more entertaining than the ones with Shredder. When Shredder fought the turtles, they were pretty much out of the fight with one punch, whereas with Bishop they seemed to get up much faster and rejoin the fights. The most interesting battle between the turtles and Shredder, was sadly in "Bad Day" because that fight was more similar to the newer fights they had had with Bishop.

08-06-2010, 06:27 AM	#10
Rat A Tat Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 184	I think it's fair to say that Bishop has had a fair amount of genetic enhancement and the like. His abilities are probably more engineered than they are trained. Bishop was always my favorite villian in the series. Although his character took a pretty lame turn in FF, in my opinion.

08-06-2010, 06:41 PM	#11
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	I wish Bishop would of been featured in BTTS. That "cameo" in the final episode wasn't enough. __________________

08-06-2010, 06:47 PM	#12
BoggleKng Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Boston, Ma Posts: 1,224	I thought it was nice to see a character kick the Turtle's butt once in awhile.. Not too strong, no... __________________ You guys mind telling me what you're doing to my little green pal over there, hm? -Casey Jones, TMNT movie...

08-06-2010, 07:00 PM	#13
jaymq Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 435	I loved the turtles/Karai/Hun fight. And yes, he is crazy genetically enhanced is fine enough background for me. I wish we had learned more about him though, he is my all-time favorite villain in TMNT. The best part? He's also intelligent. he doesn't try to bite off more than he can chew. He could see that he was outnumbered and opted for a strategic retreat on that fight. Most other villains don't get this. One reason I wish Zixx was written more intelligently actually. His concept? Great. But I didn't care for the character in the end though. __________________ Nom

08-07-2010, 12:12 AM	#14
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	I wish we would of saw a Utrom Shredder vs. Bishop showdown. I think Bishop could of taken him. BTW, do you think Bishop knew he was an Utrom? __________________

08-07-2010, 01:51 PM	#16
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	I'm not sure if he knew he was an Utrom or not, just that he was equipped with alien tech and was a threat to the Earth. I liked that Bishop was so quick and skilled, yet not a powerhouse like Hun or Shredder. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

08-07-2010, 03:00 PM	#17
Shred87 Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 467	im going to have to say that bishop didnt know he was a utrom. I remember when Bishop kidnapped Karai and he tapped into SHreds place he mention everything about him EXCEPT the fact that he was a Utrom...heck even hun didnt know until he saw it with his own 2 eyes

08-12-2010, 06:53 PM	#18
k_lala Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 413	I think everyone was waiting for a Bishop vs Shredder matchup, that never happened! That would have been sweet!!

08-13-2010, 01:15 AM	#19
$HREDDER Random Punk Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: BC CANADA Posts: 34	If SHREDDER fought BISHOP I would still have to vote for SHREDDER ,but bishop was damn good,maybe he was a little too strong.

08-13-2010, 11:09 AM	#20
Redeemer Technodrome Technician Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: third earth Posts: 4,737	I have to agree. He was written a little to strong. But I dont think he should have been written weak either. Just not quite that strong. __________________ GT:Reedeamer *THE TECHNODROME REDESIGN 2015* http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=51594