Project: Episode Order for OT - Page 5

*gobo* · 04-05-2010, 08:02 AM

I'd gladly answer... if I could figure out what the question was.

*Luzmagica* · 04-05-2010, 08:58 AM

Doh!

...I mean... Is the OT-list from Wikipedia Absolutely complete???? or maybe there are chapters/titles that not are in that list?

*gobo* · 04-05-2010, 10:24 AM

If they have all 191 episodes and the hour-long primetime special listed, it's complete. This one is incomplete so far because the point is to get as many context clues as possible to decide the best order to watch them in and we still have a long way to go.

*Luzmagica* · 04-05-2010, 10:42 AM

Thanks a lot Gobo ...!!! I will check my 191 chapters!!!
Just another cuestion...dude...! What are exactly the hour-long primetime special??

*ToTheNines* · 04-05-2010, 10:52 AM

Planet of the Turtleoids.

*sdp* · 05-20-2010, 08:59 PM

What about the R2 releases of the TMNT DVDs that claim to have the correct episode order, is it true?

*gobo* · 05-21-2010, 01:17 AM

I doubt it. I've been told that their list comes directly from Lionsgate, but unless Fred Wolf Studios would verify it, I'd assume it's just someone's educated guess. Heck, even IF Wolf confirmed it, I'd still wonder if they even bothered to look it up in their records.

JoeD80 · 06-01-2010, 05:31 PM

I'd love to get a hold of the Writer's bible. They usually mark down which episodes go where. The problem is the syndicator likes to make their own numbers and tend not to follow any intended order, and if episodes get drawn out of order you can see a wildly diverging production quality between episodes that were meant to air next to each other. X-Men had to get a special deal in place to make sure the first 13 were aired as intended since it was one long story arc. As it is, I did actually start watching the beginning of season three again, but started from script number order (the 9059-001, 9059-002 numbers) and am comparing it to my notes again. I still have all my old notes on season three, but hopefully I can make new notes and start sharing exactly what I have and see what people think. Since my schedule is so busy lately, I am going to stick to 1 or 2 episodes per night, but starting Wednesday night expect to see my comments on season 3 start up again and please join in and we'll get this project back together.

JoeD80 · 06-03-2010, 07:10 PM

So, April Fool seems like it can go pretty early. Why? The turtles appear to have no idea what's happening when the module causes a slight earthquake, and they don't see the module leave either, just the hole. So I don't think they know what the module is at this point, which would place it before The Old Switcheroo when they first see one. Episode 3 & 4 (Sky Turtles and Cowabunga Shredhead by Gobo's LOC list) later tonight (there will be some repeats here).

*oldmanwinters* · 06-03-2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD80

So, April Fool seems like it can go pretty early. Why? The turtles appear to have no idea what's happening when the module causes a slight earthquake, and they don't see the module leave either, just the hole. So I don't think they know what the module is at this point, which would place it before The Old Switcheroo when they first see one. Episode 3 & 4 (Sky Turtles and Cowabunga Shredhead by Gobo's LOC list) later tonight (there will be some repeats here).

Hmm, interesting point! I never even noticed that. I wonder if Shredder's original intent at the end of April Fool was to take April all the way back to the Technodrome if she hadn't got away? That sure would have confused the Turtles since they had no clue about the modules at that point!

*gobo* · 06-03-2010, 10:18 PM

Hooray for Joe's return to the project! Now, I won't have to finish it all myself. ^_^

JoeD80 · 06-05-2010, 02:45 AM

Four more episodes done and should be two more tomorrow. Late night, so will post in the morning.

JoeD80 · 06-09-2010, 10:57 AM

Haven't had time to post for a bit, but I've gotten farther, around episode 10 in season 3 now. I'll have some free time to be able to post some notes tonight.

*sdp* · 06-09-2010, 12:08 PM

As long as you keep up the project its all good

JoeD80 · 06-14-2010, 02:35 PM

I'm just finding it hard to find time to post my notes because I have so many!! I'm getting my watching in pretty steadily though, so I'm at about 15 in now. I will hopefully post some more notes on Tuesday, at least for five episodes, and then catch my notes up to my watching by the weekend.

JoeD80 · 04-06-2011, 11:43 AM

Is anyone interested in a resumption of this project? A short explanation from me and some stuff about my personal life that you may not care about but it does tie in. I've been in about a five-year relationship with a wonderful woman, and at this point we are good friends but over the past few weeks have decided to end the relationship. In our discussions, we asked ourselves the last time we were happy as a couple, and we both came up with summer 2009, and you may notice that was about the last time I did a lot with this project (sure there were a couple of updates here and there, but nothing like it had been). I think the two of us both ended up sacrificing our own personalities in an attempt to hang on and this is one of my hobbies that became lost in the shuffle. I still love the TMNT, and the old cartoon, and still have all the DVDs and episodes waiting to be reviewed and organized. I will have much more time to devote now, since our lives are now in a much happier place, and I hope everyone here is still interested in reading what I have to write. I'm going to put in the DVDs this weekend, try to remember where I was at, and start popping up much more frequently around here.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 04-06-2011, 12:00 PM

too many contradictions. examples of continuity and muck ups...
-Some things are continuous... The Portable Portal introduced in the 'lost' season. Resurfaces in 1991 CBS episodes 'Landlord' and 'MuckMan'.
-Holographic Cloaking Machine introduced in 'lost' episode 'Plan Six'. returns in 1992's 'Missing'.

Muck ups:
-Retro Mutagen Laser from Baxters Space Ship gets destroyed one season, brought back the next with a totally different design.
-Technodrome blasted by rocket into dimension x. Lands on giant metal planet. Next episode on volcanic island.
-A few episodes in, turtles have been dealing with the transport module and lava outburst. 'April Fools', it seems totally new to 'em. Same for '50ft Irma'

It's possible, but you'd have to stretch it a little.... I used to organize my episode time line by animation style.
1987-1988 are easy. For 1989, . All the 'Better' animated episodes grouped. The ones with a slower pace 'Attack of the Big Mack', 'The Gang's All Here' put first, faster paced 'LeatherHead Terror of the Swamps', 'Making of Metal Head' put later. All the 'cheaper' looking episodes grouped in the middle. And by cheaper I mean Michelangelo's Birthday, Turtle Terminator..etc

After Plan Six, I put in the 'Lost' European Season. Then the 'lost' 1991 season. 'Turtles and a Hair', 'Planet of the Turtles'. Then the CBS 1990 Season. Then 1991 on out.

If that makes any sense.... If Nick ever needed a continuity expert..I'm dripping in it...

JoeD80 · 04-06-2011, 01:40 PM

Yeah, my idea is to "stretch it a little" and put episodes where they make more sense even if they weren't necessarily going to be that way originally.

*gobo* · 04-06-2011, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD80

Is anyone interested in a resumption of this project?

Most soitanly! ^_^

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeD80

[girl troubles]

Sucky...

*pferreira* · 05-26-2011, 08:22 AM

I don't know if this has been asked but has anyone managed to place the episode that Donatello refers about wishing he had the anti gravity boots from that previous episode. The reference doesn't make continuity sense as it is.

04-05-2010, 08:02 AM	#81
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I'd gladly answer... if I could figure out what the question was. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

04-05-2010, 08:58 AM	#82
Luzmagica A Magic Light Dudette! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spain. Posts: 3,878	Doh! ...I mean... Is the OT-list from Wikipedia Absolutely complete???? or maybe there are chapters/titles that not are in that list? __________________

04-05-2010, 10:24 AM	#83
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	If they have all 191 episodes and the hour-long primetime special listed, it's complete. This one is incomplete so far because the point is to get as many context clues as possible to decide the best order to watch them in and we still have a long way to go. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

04-05-2010, 10:42 AM	#84
Luzmagica A Magic Light Dudette! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Spain. Posts: 3,878	Thanks a lot Gobo ...!!! I will check my 191 chapters!!! Just another cuestion...dude...! What are exactly the hour-long primetime special?? __________________

05-20-2010, 08:59 PM	#86
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,210	What about the R2 releases of the TMNT DVDs that claim to have the correct episode order, is it true? __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

04-05-2010, 10:52 AM	#85
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,303	Planet of the Turtleoids.

05-21-2010, 01:17 AM	#87
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I doubt it. I've been told that their list comes directly from Lionsgate, but unless Fred Wolf Studios would verify it, I'd assume it's just someone's educated guess. Heck, even IF Wolf confirmed it, I'd still wonder if they even bothered to look it up in their records. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-01-2010, 05:31 PM	#88
JoeD80 Thug Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62	I'd love to get a hold of the Writer's bible. They usually mark down which episodes go where. The problem is the syndicator likes to make their own numbers and tend not to follow any intended order, and if episodes get drawn out of order you can see a wildly diverging production quality between episodes that were meant to air next to each other. X-Men had to get a special deal in place to make sure the first 13 were aired as intended since it was one long story arc. As it is, I did actually start watching the beginning of season three again, but started from script number order (the 9059-001, 9059-002 numbers) and am comparing it to my notes again. I still have all my old notes on season three, but hopefully I can make new notes and start sharing exactly what I have and see what people think. Since my schedule is so busy lately, I am going to stick to 1 or 2 episodes per night, but starting Wednesday night expect to see my comments on season 3 start up again and please join in and we'll get this project back together.

06-03-2010, 07:10 PM	#89
JoeD80 Thug Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62	So, April Fool seems like it can go pretty early. Why? The turtles appear to have no idea what's happening when the module causes a slight earthquake, and they don't see the module leave either, just the hole. So I don't think they know what the module is at this point, which would place it before The Old Switcheroo when they first see one. Episode 3 & 4 (Sky Turtles and Cowabunga Shredhead by Gobo's LOC list) later tonight (there will be some repeats here).

06-03-2010, 10:18 PM	#91
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Hooray for Joe's return to the project! Now, I won't have to finish it all myself. ^_^ __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

06-05-2010, 02:45 AM	#92
JoeD80 Thug Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62	Four more episodes done and should be two more tomorrow. Late night, so will post in the morning.

06-09-2010, 10:57 AM	#93
JoeD80 Thug Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62	Haven't had time to post for a bit, but I've gotten farther, around episode 10 in season 3 now. I'll have some free time to be able to post some notes tonight.

06-09-2010, 12:08 PM	#94
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,210	As long as you keep up the project its all good __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

06-14-2010, 02:35 PM	#95
JoeD80 Thug Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62	I'm just finding it hard to find time to post my notes because I have so many!! I'm getting my watching in pretty steadily though, so I'm at about 15 in now. I will hopefully post some more notes on Tuesday, at least for five episodes, and then catch my notes up to my watching by the weekend.

04-06-2011, 11:43 AM	#96
JoeD80 Thug Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62	Is anyone interested in a resumption of this project? A short explanation from me and some stuff about my personal life that you may not care about but it does tie in. I've been in about a five-year relationship with a wonderful woman, and at this point we are good friends but over the past few weeks have decided to end the relationship. In our discussions, we asked ourselves the last time we were happy as a couple, and we both came up with summer 2009, and you may notice that was about the last time I did a lot with this project (sure there were a couple of updates here and there, but nothing like it had been). I think the two of us both ended up sacrificing our own personalities in an attempt to hang on and this is one of my hobbies that became lost in the shuffle. I still love the TMNT, and the old cartoon, and still have all the DVDs and episodes waiting to be reviewed and organized. I will have much more time to devote now, since our lives are now in a much happier place, and I hope everyone here is still interested in reading what I have to write. I'm going to put in the DVDs this weekend, try to remember where I was at, and start popping up much more frequently around here.

04-06-2011, 12:00 PM	#97
~~Vegita-San~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,089	too many contradictions. examples of continuity and muck ups... -Some things are continuous... The Portable Portal introduced in the 'lost' season. Resurfaces in 1991 CBS episodes 'Landlord' and 'MuckMan'. -Holographic Cloaking Machine introduced in 'lost' episode 'Plan Six'. returns in 1992's 'Missing'. Muck ups: -Retro Mutagen Laser from Baxters Space Ship gets destroyed one season, brought back the next with a totally different design. -Technodrome blasted by rocket into dimension x. Lands on giant metal planet. Next episode on volcanic island. -A few episodes in, turtles have been dealing with the transport module and lava outburst. 'April Fools', it seems totally new to 'em. Same for '50ft Irma' It's possible, but you'd have to stretch it a little.... I used to organize my episode time line by animation style. 1987-1988 are easy. For 1989, . All the 'Better' animated episodes grouped. The ones with a slower pace 'Attack of the Big Mack', 'The Gang's All Here' put first, faster paced 'LeatherHead Terror of the Swamps', 'Making of Metal Head' put later. All the 'cheaper' looking episodes grouped in the middle. And by cheaper I mean Michelangelo's Birthday, Turtle Terminator..etc After Plan Six, I put in the 'Lost' European Season. Then the 'lost' 1991 season. 'Turtles and a Hair', 'Planet of the Turtles'. Then the CBS 1990 Season. Then 1991 on out. If that makes any sense.... If Nick ever needed a continuity expert..I'm dripping in it...

04-06-2011, 01:40 PM	#98
JoeD80 Thug Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 62	Yeah, my idea is to "stretch it a little" and put episodes where they make more sense even if they weren't necessarily going to be that way originally.

05-26-2011, 08:22 AM	#100
pferreira Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,514	I don't know if this has been asked but has anyone managed to place the episode that Donatello refers about wishing he had the anti gravity boots from that previous episode. The reference doesn't make continuity sense as it is.