IDW's TMNT #13 discussion - Page 4

*frank_one* · 08-22-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone

I'm bothered more by the sloppily tied belts, to be honest.

The turtles have also lost the band around the wrist and around their feet.

Anyway, I enjoyed the art in this issue. Probably not the best style I've seen so far in a IDW TMNT book (I used to love Dan Dancan's), but I can live with that.

Lampy · 08-22-2012, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Matches Malone

I also thought Karai had a really nice character moment displaying that she's not blindly obedient to Saki. I wonder who he has in mind for second in command? BEBOP OR ROCKSTEADY? Kidding. I hope.

I hope it's Tatsu. That would be awesome.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-22-2012, 07:47 PM

I hope it's Tatsu too. It wouldn't make sense for Saki to promote some mutant to second in command... unless we start seeing human-to-mutant mutations already.

*CyberCubed* · 08-22-2012, 07:49 PM

Karai not being blindly loyal to Shredder seems like set-up to eventually turn on him. Very similar to 4kids Karai.

*ToTheNines* · 08-22-2012, 07:51 PM

My money is on Hun. I'm sure he's showing up soon regardless.

Lampy · 08-22-2012, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Karai not being blindly loyal to Shredder seems like set-up to eventually turn on him. Very similar to 4kids Karai.

This story is just getting good. and if this is a set up for tatsu and karai turning on shredder... then the OT influence won't be so overpowering as it is right now. but again... this is getting good.

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

My money is on Hun. I'm sure he's showing up soon regardless.

Hun is not a bad idea too... but i'd prefer Hun to take over the Purple Dragons and corrupt that gang into turning bad.

*CyberCubed* · 08-22-2012, 07:58 PM

Didn't someone speculate Hun might be Angel's father? I think in her debut issue Casey said his father got drunk at Angel's father's place.

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-22-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lampy

This story is just getting good. and if this is a set up for tatsu and karai turning on shredder... then the OT influence won't be so overpowering as it is right now. but again... this is getting good.

Some of us want a strong '87 cartoon influence and I do like how Karai waivers between good and evil so its like having cake and eating it too. The '87 cartoon is what is most interesting to me since that is heads and shoulder above everything in my personal rankings! Glad to see characters being used and adapted in all new directions at last!

Tatsu was who I was thinking when he said replacement. Though I have a feeling its wishful thinking. Would there be any other candidates? Apolex or another mutant?

Lampy · 08-22-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Some of us want a strong '87 cartoon influence and I do like how Karai waivers between good and evil so its like having cake and eating it too. The '87 cartoon is what is most interesting to me since that is heads and shoulder above everything in my personal rankings! Glad to see characters being used and adapted in all new directions at last!

Tatsu was who I was thinking when he said replacement. Though I have a feeling its wishful thinking. Would there be any other candidates? Apolex or another mutant?

i know the OT has great potential in comics and i like that they're incorporating a lot of the characters. but what i meant was... it's great to see other universe converge in this universe as well... like the 4kids and the movies and so on.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-22-2012, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Karai not being blindly loyal to Shredder seems like set-up to eventually turn on him. Very similar to 4kids Karai.

In a way, not entirely dissimilar to Mirage. While she didn't turn on Shredder in that, per se, she did wage war against his Shredder Elite.

And I hope it's not Hun, though it wouldn't seem right if he didn't turn up at some point (I suspect in whatever eventual Purple Dragon story arc the Angel character is foreshadowing). I know the Shredder-Hun relationship worked to a lot of you on the cartoons, but it's hard to believe someone we're supposed to believe is a ninja master (and in this case, a very old-school one straight from Feudal Japan, even) would give the reins of "second in command" of his whole Clan to just some large gangbanging gaijin thug.

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-22-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lampy

i know the OT has great potential in comics and i like that they're incorporating a lot of the characters. but what i meant was... it's great to see other universe converge in this universe as well... like the 4kids and the movies and so on.

I see. I was afraid the series was going to have an overpowering influence of the black and white comics and nothing else. Seeing the '87 cartoon lead a variety of influences is refreshing and much more enjoyable. Its fun not knowing who is going to pop up and how all with play into the plot. Tatsu and Karai as father and daughter(?) or not would be a fun interaction to see. IDW is opening the doors to character interactions never thought of before. Like the above Krang being into the mix of the Fugi drama with The Federation and Triceratons.Okay, that to is speculation but I love guessing!

*Andrew NDB* · 08-22-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Its fun not knowing who is going to pop up and how all with play into the plot.

That, to me, is the least compelling element of IDW TMNT. "Who is going to pop up this month from the cartoons, reimagined?" I'd rather just get quality stories and world building to sell us on this universe, not refurbished recycling from others. Or at least a whole lot more of the former before double or triple dipping on the latter -- it needs to work on its own, even without Nostalgia Goggles, folks.

Toby Barrett · 08-22-2012, 08:32 PM

Nearly all of IDW's series are fueled by nostalgia however.

*Samhain* · 08-22-2012, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Some of us want a strong '87 cartoon influence and I do like how Karai waivers between good and evil so its like having cake and eating it too. The '87 cartoon is what is most interesting to me since that is heads and shoulder above everything in my personal rankings! Glad to see characters being used and adapted in all new directions at last!

Tatsu was who I was thinking when he said replacement. Though I have a feeling its wishful thinking. Would there be any other candidates? Apolex or another mutant?

I can't wait for one of the turtles kill someone and you complain and drop the book.

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

In a way, not entirely dissimilar to Mirage. While she didn't turn on Shredder in that, per se, she did wage war against his Shredder Elite.

And I hope it's not Hun, though it wouldn't seem right if he didn't turn up at some point (I suspect in whatever eventual Purple Dragon story arc the Angel character is foreshadowing). I know the Shredder-Hun relationship worked to a lot of you on the cartoons, but it's hard to believe someone we're supposed to believe is a ninja master (and in this case, a very old-school one straight from Feudal Japan, even) would give the reins of "second in command" of his whole Clan to just some large gangbanging gaijin thug.

Well said.

**Jester** · 08-22-2012, 08:43 PM

Thoughts?

Toby Barrett · 08-22-2012, 08:44 PM

When can we get to the IDW version of Chris Allan?

**Jester** · 08-22-2012, 08:52 PM

Well....lets see. Issue 23 or 30? But does the change from Duncan to Kuhn equate to the Mitchroney to Lawson shift?

*MikeandRaph87* · 08-22-2012, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Samhain

I can't wait for one of the turtles kill someone and you complain and drop the book.

Not complain just quietly drop it.Its not the turtles way and you know it.It may have been in the black and white comics but that has long evolved past. I try to hold friendly conversations with you so I don't know why you bait me.Different preferences for different folks and we are all passionate.

Anyone surprised by Baxter waking up with no body part of him missing or no mutation of any kind? Or perhaps it just has shown yet.Its time Baxter did the bullying!

*Jephael* · 08-22-2012, 10:27 PM

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When can we get to the IDW version of Chris Allan?

I sorta felt Dan Duncan was the IDW equivanant of Archie's Chris Allan.

BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 · 08-23-2012, 03:21 AM

The idw Foot Logo is exactly like the 4KIDS one as you can see in the panel where Shredder is sitting on his throne. Another 4kids element! I was also suprised that Baxter is not yet mutated but we know for sure that something will happen to him soon or late. Cant wait for next issue!!

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	Thoughts? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-22-2012, 08:52 PM	#77
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	Well....lets see. Issue 23 or 30? But does the change from Duncan to Kuhn equate to the Mitchroney to Lawson shift? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-22-2012, 07:49 PM	#64
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,834	Karai not being blindly loyal to Shredder seems like set-up to eventually turn on him. Very similar to 4kids Karai.

08-22-2012, 07:51 PM	#65
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,280	My money is on Hun. I'm sure he's showing up soon regardless.

08-22-2012, 07:58 PM	#67
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,834	Didn't someone speculate Hun might be Angel's father? I think in her debut issue Casey said his father got drunk at Angel's father's place.

08-22-2012, 08:32 PM	#73
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	Nearly all of IDW's series are fueled by nostalgia however.

08-22-2012, 08:44 PM	#76
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	When can we get to the IDW version of Chris Allan?

08-23-2012, 03:21 AM	#80
BAXTER STOCKMAN 19 Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Greece Posts: 661	The idw Foot Logo is exactly like the 4KIDS one as you can see in the panel where Shredder is sitting on his throne. Another 4kids element! I was also suprised that Baxter is not yet mutated but we know for sure that something will happen to him soon or late. Cant wait for next issue!!