Turtles & April. - Page 11

Ramboraph4life aka Matt · 07-28-2005, 10:09 AM

I voted for my fave Raph. Especially from the moments (the rescue, April thanking Raph on TV) in the original movie. As for the whole topic itself of romance in the turtle realm, I'm not bothered by it. I guess the reason I'm okay with it is that we've seen stuff LIKE this done before (okay, not the sex part, but the attraction/romance part). Like Hellboy, Star Trek series, even the blind girl with The Thing in the new Fantastic Four. There are many more examples, so of course fans of the TMNT would have those questions/thoughts. The "what if" question. The main point is, everybody has their opinion on the matter. Some will outright be disgusted with it, others will be totally opposite. There is NO WRONG ANSWER. It's called opinion, that's the whole point of the forum.

Me, I'm okay with it. I'm more of the "don't matter if underneath is beautiful" motif/cliche. Is that bubbleheaded, disgusting, or dumb of me? Oh well, easy come and easy go.

"We really shook the pillars of heaven, didn't we?"

tmnt_girl · 07-28-2005, 02:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by sage ninja
By the way to who ever posted those pic of Leonardo and April together, are thos actual screen caps from the classic series or did you cut and paste them together so it looked like April and Leonardo are hugging, holding hands, ect.

i got the pictures off my friends website, she draws and has a lot of leo and April pictures that u wouldn't believe.
Cheak out the website:
members.fortunecity.com/lisardo79/marip.html

*Sage Ninja* · 07-28-2005, 11:29 PM

some one mentioned that the turtles took their time covering their eyes up when this girl who was a monster before turned back into a human and she was naked. Well my only responce to that is turtle or not they are still teenage males and I don't think they are going to pass up a freebie in the rare cases that it happens.

Plus I don't think Splinter lets them watch HBO or R rated movies where nuddity could happen. Actually given the turtles sheltered up bringing I wonder just how much about sexuality they actually know about. Maybe the turtles are all just tottally innocent and just don't know about that sort of thing.

*Masked Ninja* · 07-29-2005, 12:36 AM

I like to think of the Turtles as normal guys as far as personality... but I really dunno about relationships. To me it breaks up what makes the Turtles appealing at all - their family connection. Girlfriends, etc. get in the way of all that by distracting one or more of the brothers.

As for the Quarry thing... I don't know if being teenage males would necessarily make them want to oogle just because she wasn't wearing anything. First and foremost, I'd like to think Splinter taught them more about honor than that. Second, seeing as they're 1) mutated and 2) turtle-based, how are we sure they'd be attracted to a human woman? They may act and feel "human," sure... but should we assume they'd be attracted to one?

Maybe a better adjective for the Turtles is "sentient" rather than "human" for that reason. They look humanoid and have feelings and personalities, but they aren't necessarily human-derived... But then again, when we have only ourselves to compare to, it may be hard to think of it in any other terms.

If that made any sense at all

*Sewer Bull* · 07-29-2005, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

some one mentioned that the turtles took their time covering their eyes up when this girl who was a monster before turned back into a human and she was naked. Well my only responce to that is turtle or not they are still teenage males and I don't think they are going to pass up a freebie in the rare cases that it happens.

My 2 cents:
* Exposing your enjoyment loudly because of seeing Quarry's nudity would be much of impoliteness, don't you think? They are heroes in the half-shells, so they should remain classy in every situation...

But that scene you're mentioning would be far more realistic if one of them tried to peep through his fingers. That would be quite funny and teenage-like and might be quite appreciated by elder viewers. But as we all know, that show is primarly targeted to kids so there's no place for actions like that.

*Turtles may not be attracted by human nudity! Shocking for the rabid fan-girls...

Remember "Fallen Angel" episode? Remember Raph's comment on Leo's dissatisfaction with having to fight with that lousy clothes on?
Raphael said: Ya ever see a human in his skivies? Trust me, it ain't a pretty sight! Two generalized ideas may come from that. First, Raph has already seen human nudity (where are you wandering on the surface, sir?

), so he's not that innocent. Second - he's not infatuated by it - probably because it's not of his own species.

Thus spake Robweiller...

NeoBix · 07-29-2005, 12:51 AM

Is it true that April had to resort to prostitution in one of the comic books?

I heard that she got fired one time and she had no way to make ends meet so she was out on the streets half-naked in some skimpy stockings, a short skirt, and a revealing blouse to try and pay the bills.

Apparently, Raphael ran into her, and he happened to have a few bucks on him at the time so they went to a hotel for a little while. Hmmm... I wonder what happened, lol.

Maybe April really DID have Raphael's baby, but I don't know if their son's name is really Gordy.

07-29-2005, 01:15 AM

I don't know...
The whole idea about the TMNT not being attracted to humans because they're not humanoid reptiles is a little difficult to accept considering a number of things...

One... Human beings are the closest thing to what the TMNT are. Ask yourself this... Would the TMNT rather live in the city with people, or live in a freakin' marsh with turtles??
Dispite their animalistic features, the guys are very "human" in every other way. Truth is I actually know plenty of people who are more primal and animalistic than the TMNT.
Like really... Are the TMNT any less sophisticated and civilized than everyone else because they're not pure human?

Two... If the TMNT lived on a remote island and only heard of humans, then I can understand that they might be weirded out by them.
But since they actually live in one of the biggest and most populated cities in the world, not to mention they watch TV and movies, and read literature such as magazines. These things influence the media (especially adolecents) to what's hot and attractive.

Seriously, if I was suddenly stuck on a world where people had blue skin, tails, and horns sticking out of their heads, it wouldn't take me long to get used to them, plus, I would soon after be picking out some attractive ones out of the bunch.

*KROW* · 07-29-2005, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryo

I don't know...
The whole idea about the TMNT not being attracted to humans because they're not humanoid reptiles is a little difficult to accept considering a number of things...

One... Human beings are the closest thing to what the TMNT are. Ask yourself this... Would the TMNT rather live in the city with people, or live in a freakin' marsh with turtles??
Dispite their animalistic features, the guys are very "human" in every other way. Truth is I actually know plenty of people who are more primal and animalistic than the TMNT.
Like really... Are the TMNT any less sophisticated and civilized than everyone else because they're not pure human?

Two... If the TMNT lived on a remote island and only heard of humans, then I can understand that they might be weirded out by them.
But since they actually live in one of the biggest and most populated cities in the world, not to mention they watch TV and movies, and read literature such as magazines. These things influence the media (especially adolecents) to what's hot and attractive.

Seriously, if I was suddenly stuck on a world where people had blue skin, tails, and horns sticking out of their heads, it wouldn't take me long to get used to them, plus, I would soon after be picking out some attractive ones out of the bunch.

I think that in some small part of their spiritual essence, the turtles would indeed like to live in a marshland setting with non-mutated species of their ilk. I don't think they'd do that permanently, but rather prefer it as a vacation as opposed to Disneyland or some other more human-based attraction.

As for their adoption of the general populace mindset of what's hot, I'd like to think that they have more iintelligence to know that they can humor the notion rather than act on it.

And being stuck on a world with blue folks with tails and horn means aliens, not humanoid turtles. There's a subtle difference there, don't you think?

**Kali** · 07-29-2005, 05:40 PM

Giving this more thought, within canon universes, I’m not sure that the Turtles even have the same need for “companionship” that we may. It really does depend on the universe, writer, and necessity within the plot. As TMNT is mostly action-based, romance would be jarring, and unnecessary. My biggest problem with romance within the TMNT multiverse is that most of the times it does seem forced and is usually out of character and awkward for those involved. (April and Casey excluded…mostly…)

But I still don’t see how humans are more or less different than the other species that the Turtles have found attractive and gotten together with. Now, if one were to argue that most humans wouldn’t find the Turtles attractive, that seems obvious, since they have attractive humans to compare them to. But I did always wonder where Raph got the knowledge of what a “human in his skivvies” looked like. (Notice, though, he does say “his”.

)

I did grow up on Star Trek, so I’ve probably been desensitized to the idea of interspecies relationships in fiction. I mean, it’s just fiction…

07-29-2005, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali

I did always wonder where Raph got the knowledge of what a “human in his skivvies” looked like. (Notice, though, he does say “his”.

)

I think Raph accidently walked in on Casey in the shower or something like that.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 07-29-2005, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali

But I still don’t see how humans are more or less different than the other species that the Turtles have found attractive and gotten together with. Now, if one were to argue that most humans wouldn’t find the Turtles attractive, that seems obvious, since they have attractive humans to compare them to. But I did always wonder where Raph got the knowledge of what a “human in his skivvies” looked like. (Notice, though, he does say “his”.

)

I did grow up on Star Trek, so I’ve probably been desensitized to the idea of interspecies relationships in fiction. I mean, it’s just fiction…

Raph DID date a humanoid fox in the Archie series. A fox is not a Turtle either.

And, Neobix, there is no such story in the comics. You do know the difference between a Doujinshi /Fan comic, and a real official comic, right?

tmnt_girl · 08-06-2005, 12:20 PM

i know this might sound abit nasty but please don't get anrgy at me,
u know when humans have sex men have to have dicks to give sperm and make a baby right? how could one of the turtles have a baby with a human?

(also i know this has nothing to do with this topic and i really want to know wat people think, but how do tmnt go to the toilet?)

*ZariusTwo* · 08-06-2005, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmnt_girl

u know when humans have sex men have to have dicks to give sperm and make a baby right? how could one of the turtles have a baby with a human?

They can't. There non-compatiable, that much is accepted by the fanbase, there not that desperatly delusional

*Sewer Bull* · 08-06-2005, 01:44 PM

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/letter.htm

Ask them directly if this case bothers you.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-06-2005, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robweiller

http://www.ninjaturtles.com/letter.htm

Ask them directly if this case bothers you.

Oh god, I can just see the guys' letter now

"Dear Mr Lairdz, I think the Turtles canz havez babiez with humanz, couldz you confirmedz thisz? sucky sucky five dolla"

08-06-2005, 06:18 PM

Oh, man! If they got a letter like that!

Yeah, TMNT DNA and human DNA are not compatible.

Like I said earlier, not even Clark Kent can have a baby with a human female.

*Hannah* · 08-06-2005, 06:22 PM

Isn't it that the only two animals able to have a baby together are a horse and a donkey? Even so, their baby cant have babies when it grows up.

<_< haha lets see some hooved mutants

*Buslady* · 08-06-2005, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tmnt_girl

i know this might sound abit nasty but please don't get anrgy at me,
u know when humans have sex men have to have dicks to give sperm and make a baby right? how could one of the turtles have a baby with a human?

(also i know this has nothing to do with this topic and i really want to know wat people think, but how do tmnt go to the toilet?)

Being a turtle keeper, turtles have wangs...very large wangs...I breed Rhinochlemmys Pulcherrima Manni...Donnie has a big wang, he keeps Jessie happy.
So does Mike..and Raph...they're yearling male res ears.

Turtles have tails...poo comes out of there and they tinkle from there too.
Did you know their wangs are not needed for peepee.

Ok I answered a stupid questions.

Leonardo Mystic · 08-06-2005, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryona

Yeah, TMNT DNA and human DNA are not compatible.

But that doesn't mean it has to be true in the wonderful universe of fanfiction we are free to twist however we want.

Looking at this from a real scientific perspective as we are, who really knows how much of their DNA structure is still turtle, and what's changed to human. For all we know, we could be completely off base, and they are compatible. Unfortunately, such knowledge is unattainable, not to mention impossible.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-06-2005, 08:00 PM

...Not one to actually throw out a bone, but there's this BITCHING Rescue Rangers fan comic that not only acknowledges aspects of the series continuity and characters, it also gives Gadget and Chip a reason to breed children using an episode from the series as a fundimental reason, the one where thier heads and bodies switched around erraticlly throwing some of Chips' DNA into Gadgets, rearranging her gene structure upon return to normalacy

Rescue Rangers Away in every sense of the way...

http://www.electricfishmusic.com/216.html

There's more of it, back and front. Its' probably the greatest thing to come out of the distrubing fan shrines for Gadget Hackenwrench...

View Poll Results: Which turtle would you like to see get together with April?
Leonardo	4	2.90%
Michelangelo	2	1.45%
Donatello	25	18.12%
Raphael	5	3.62%
Venus-------- Lesbians!	12	8.70%
None. Casey.	90	65.22%
Voters: 138. You may not vote on this poll

07-29-2005, 12:51 AM	#206
NeoBix Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Smacking Hamato Inya with nunchucks. Posts: 736	Is it true that April had to resort to prostitution in one of the comic books? I heard that she got fired one time and she had no way to make ends meet so she was out on the streets half-naked in some skimpy stockings, a short skirt, and a revealing blouse to try and pay the bills. Apparently, Raphael ran into her, and he happened to have a few bucks on him at the time so they went to a hotel for a little while. Hmmm... I wonder what happened, lol. Maybe April really DID have Raphael's baby, but I don't know if their son's name is really Gordy. __________________ "Movies don't create psychos. Movies make psychos more creative." —Billy Loomis (Skeet Ulrich) from the movie "Scream"

08-06-2005, 01:44 PM	#214
Sewer Bull Devil's Advocate Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,768	http://www.ninjaturtles.com/letter.htm Ask them directly if this case bothers you. __________________ Soooo... THIS* is how you spend your free time now?!*

08-06-2005, 06:22 PM	#217
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Isn't it that the only two animals able to have a baby together are a horse and a donkey? Even so, their baby cant have babies when it grows up. <_< haha lets see some hooved mutants __________________

08-06-2005, 08:00 PM	#220
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,310	...Not one to actually throw out a bone, but there's this BITCHING Rescue Rangers fan comic that not only acknowledges aspects of the series continuity and characters, it also gives Gadget and Chip a reason to breed children using an episode from the series as a fundimental reason, the one where thier heads and bodies switched around erraticlly throwing some of Chips' DNA into Gadgets, rearranging her gene structure upon return to normalacy Rescue Rangers Away in every sense of the way... http://www.electricfishmusic.com/216.html There's more of it, back and front. Its' probably the greatest thing to come out of the distrubing fan shrines for Gadget Hackenwrench... __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

07-28-2005, 10:09 AM	#201
Ramboraph4life aka Matt Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2004 Location: North Liberty, Iowa Posts: 1,233	I voted for my fave Raph. Especially from the moments (the rescue, April thanking Raph on TV) in the original movie. As for the whole topic itself of romance in the turtle realm, I'm not bothered by it. I guess the reason I'm okay with it is that we've seen stuff LIKE this done before (okay, not the sex part, but the attraction/romance part). Like Hellboy, Star Trek series, even the blind girl with The Thing in the new Fantastic Four. There are many more examples, so of course fans of the TMNT would have those questions/thoughts. The "what if" question. The main point is, everybody has their opinion on the matter. Some will outright be disgusted with it, others will be totally opposite. There is NO WRONG ANSWER. It's called opinion, that's the whole point of the forum. Me, I'm okay with it. I'm more of the "don't matter if underneath is beautiful" motif/cliche. Is that bubbleheaded, disgusting, or dumb of me? Oh well, easy come and easy go. "We really shook the pillars of heaven, didn't we?"

07-28-2005, 02:00 PM	#202
tmnt_girl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bristol Posts: 205	Quote: Originally Posted by sage ninja By the way to who ever posted those pic of Leonardo and April together, are thos actual screen caps from the classic series or did you cut and paste them together so it looked like April and Leonardo are hugging, holding hands, ect. i got the pictures off my friends website, she draws and has a lot of leo and April pictures that u wouldn't believe. Cheak out the website: members.fortunecity.com/lisardo79/marip.html

07-28-2005, 11:29 PM	#203
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,924	some one mentioned that the turtles took their time covering their eyes up when this girl who was a monster before turned back into a human and she was naked. Well my only responce to that is turtle or not they are still teenage males and I don't think they are going to pass up a freebie in the rare cases that it happens. Plus I don't think Splinter lets them watch HBO or R rated movies where nuddity could happen. Actually given the turtles sheltered up bringing I wonder just how much about sexuality they actually know about. Maybe the turtles are all just tottally innocent and just don't know about that sort of thing.

07-29-2005, 12:36 AM	#204
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	I like to think of the Turtles as normal guys as far as personality... but I really dunno about relationships. To me it breaks up what makes the Turtles appealing at all - their family connection. Girlfriends, etc. get in the way of all that by distracting one or more of the brothers. As for the Quarry thing... I don't know if being teenage males would necessarily make them want to oogle just because she wasn't wearing anything. First and foremost, I'd like to think Splinter taught them more about honor than that. Second, seeing as they're 1) mutated and 2) turtle-based, how are we sure they'd be attracted to a human woman? They may act and feel "human," sure... but should we assume they'd be attracted to one? Maybe a better adjective for the Turtles is "sentient" rather than "human" for that reason. They look humanoid and have feelings and personalities, but they aren't necessarily human-derived... But then again, when we have only ourselves to compare to, it may be hard to think of it in any other terms. If that made any sense at all

07-29-2005, 01:15 AM	#207
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	I don't know... The whole idea about the TMNT not being attracted to humans because they're not humanoid reptiles is a little difficult to accept considering a number of things... One... Human beings are the closest thing to what the TMNT are. Ask yourself this... Would the TMNT rather live in the city with people, or live in a freakin' marsh with turtles?? Dispite their animalistic features, the guys are very "human" in every other way. Truth is I actually know plenty of people who are more primal and animalistic than the TMNT. Like really... Are the TMNT any less sophisticated and civilized than everyone else because they're not pure human? Two... If the TMNT lived on a remote island and only heard of humans, then I can understand that they might be weirded out by them. But since they actually live in one of the biggest and most populated cities in the world, not to mention they watch TV and movies, and read literature such as magazines. These things influence the media (especially adolecents) to what's hot and attractive. Seriously, if I was suddenly stuck on a world where people had blue skin, tails, and horns sticking out of their heads, it wouldn't take me long to get used to them, plus, I would soon after be picking out some attractive ones out of the bunch.

07-29-2005, 05:40 PM	#209
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Giving this more thought, within canon universes, I’m not sure that the Turtles even have the same need for “companionship” that we may. It really does depend on the universe, writer, and necessity within the plot. As TMNT is mostly action-based, romance would be jarring, and unnecessary. My biggest problem with romance within the TMNT multiverse is that most of the times it does seem forced and is usually out of character and awkward for those involved. (April and Casey excluded…mostly…) But I still don’t see how humans are more or less different than the other species that the Turtles have found attractive and gotten together with. Now, if one were to argue that most humans wouldn’t find the Turtles attractive, that seems obvious, since they have attractive humans to compare them to. But I did always wonder where Raph got the knowledge of what a “human in his skivvies” looked like. (Notice, though, he does say “his”. ) I did grow up on Star Trek, so I’ve probably been desensitized to the idea of interspecies relationships in fiction. I mean, it’s just fiction…

08-06-2005, 12:20 PM	#212
tmnt_girl Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bristol Posts: 205	i know this might sound abit nasty but please don't get anrgy at me, u know when humans have sex men have to have dicks to give sperm and make a baby right? how could one of the turtles have a baby with a human? (also i know this has nothing to do with this topic and i really want to know wat people think, but how do tmnt go to the toilet?)

08-06-2005, 06:18 PM	#216
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	Oh, man! If they got a letter like that! Yeah, TMNT DNA and human DNA are not compatible. Like I said earlier, not even Clark Kent can have a baby with a human female.