fox's fantastic four reboot

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Without a doubt.

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Without a doubt.

Indeed they would do a better movie.

I think fox should only stick to X-Men and Deadpool and leave other Marvel properties alone.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by JakeSully

Indeed they would do a better movie.

I think fox should only stick to X-Men and Deadpool and leave other Marvel properties alone.

The cinematic X-men are boring. Quicksilvers scene was great, but the rest? It all feels stale. I think it would be great to see everything Marvel, back at Marvel.

But I'm getting nervous about Marvel's take on Spiderman....
That glowy shizz....why? Reminds me of stay safe halloween costumes.

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

The cinematic X-men are boring. Quicksilvers scene was great, but the rest? It all feels stale.

And you think X-Men movies feel too preachy? some people say so.


Deadpool looks badass though.

[NinjaPug]

They're projecting $28 million for he opening weekend box office. That's bad - really really bad. Green Hornet made $35 million for comparisons sake without the added inflation F4 received.

Fox needs to give it up and just concentrate on the X-Men universe. Give us more X-Men and Deadpool and expand into X-Force and New Mutants movies. Fox obviously has no clue how to make a viable or good F4 movie.

[JakeSully]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

They're projecting $28 million for he opening weekend box office. That's bad - really really bad. Green Hornet made $35 million for comparisons sake without the added inflation F4 received.

Fox needs to give it up and just concentrate on the X-Men universe. Give us more X-Men and Deadpool and expand into X-Force and New Mutants movies. Fox obviously has no clue how to make a viable or good F4 movie.

Most agree Ninjapug and do you agree Marvel is better suited for F4? Fox knows how to do good X-Men despite a few bad ones and have no clue for F4.

And do you think Galactus and Doom would be unique villains for MCU? now those would make good Avengers villains even Galactus in a Guardians sequel

[NinjaPug]

Yes I think Marvel can make a good F4 movie. For one, they actually understand the characters. People keep saying it's not possible to make a good F4 movie. That's BS. It's just not possible for Fox to make one. Marvel made a good GOTG and Ant-Man movies for crying out loud - of course they could make a good movie about Marvel's First Family. I've said it many times before but I want Marvel to get the rights back simply for the ancillary characters associated with the franchise.

I don't agree that Fox has made good X-Men movies though. First Class is the only movie I'd consider good and I think that's because of Matthew Vaughn. The Wolverine was good until the terrible third act. Deadpool looks like it could be good simply because fans of the character have been fighting to get this movie made for 10 years. Hopefully the studio doesn't interfere too much like they did on F4. Fox sucks even without Tom Rothman running things.

[Foombamaroom]

The problem with Fox is that they want to do their movies "their way." Marvel directors complain that Marvel has too much control and won't let them do their own style? Suck it the f*ck up. No one goes to a comic book movie to see a director's style: they go to see the comic book property on the big screen. That's why Marvel's so successful. The guy who directed Thor 2 said he didn't have enough creative control, but Thor 2 was a decent film. Then, 2 years later, Terminator Genisys comes out, and it's godawful. But hey, he had creative control. -_- Fox just wants profits. At least Marvel legitimately ENJOYS satisfying their fans because then they make profits. If you satisfy the fans, you make money: it really isn't a hard concept. So what if you feel it's "lame", Fox? What you feel is lame may be something that people love. And hey, if you put it in the film, YOU. WILL. MAKE. MONEY.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Commenter 42

The cinematic X-men are boring. Quicksilvers scene was great, but the rest? It all feels stale. I think it would be great to see everything Marvel, back at Marvel.

But I'm getting nervous about Marvel's take on Spiderman....
That glowy shizz....why? Reminds me of stay safe halloween costumes.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0kSOL7rru7..._1_Promo.0.jpg

This right here is why I burst a gut laughing whenever some shmuck tells me Marvel understands their characters. They haven't had a clue how to keep their flagship hero Spider-Man relevant for almost a decade now. His most recent success came when Doctor Octopus took over his body for a year. Now they're making him Tony Stark-lite.

btw, Marvel are actually trying to claim Iron Man is their flagship guy now.

[Autbot_Benz]

I think Fox made good X-men Movies. Days of Future Past was excellent The Wolverine was good until the 3rd act with Iron Samurai. X2 was good too.

First class was Crap they had the wrong group of X-men. The first class is supposed to be Cyclops Jean Iceman Beast and Angel.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

This right here is why I burst a gut laughing whenever some shmuck tells me Marvel understands their characters. They haven't had a clue how to keep their flagship hero Spider-Man relevant for almost a decade now. His most recent success came when Doctor Octopus took over his body for a year. Now they're making him Tony Stark-lite.

btw, Marvel are actually trying to claim Iron Man is their flagship guy now.

When I said Marvel understands their characters I was referring to Marvel Studios / Feige. Not what's currently going on in the books.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

I'm leaving to see this in a few minutes...I really know nothing about The Fantastic Four, so I actually anticipate liking this movie. I know there has been a crapstorm attached to this movie from the beginning, but I think the low boxoffice numbers are with every movie this weekend, and it might have to do with the theater shootings the last two weeks...I know I'm actually a little hesitant to even go to the movies...

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

When I said Marvel understands their characters I was referring to Marvel Studios / Feige. Not what's currently going on in the books.

And in the cartoons too.

Marvel are quite fortunate to have Fiege on their payroll. Despite my own issues with how overrated the Marvel movies are, I'd prefer they be the main canon over much of the comic output.

[TigerClaw]

Yeah, Marvel can do a great job on an FF movie, As long as it sticks to the core value that it's about a family, it's something Fox doesn't understand with there version of FF. they don't seem to get Dr Doom, Hes from Latveria and rules that fictional country.

[ZariusTwo]

Looks like FOX have opted out of FF2, wanting instead for a Deadpool sequel to take up the slot

http://www.dailysuperhero.com/2015/0...nsidering.html

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Foombamaroom

The problem with Fox is that they want to do their movies "their way." Marvel directors complain that Marvel has too much control and won't let them do their own style? Suck it the f*ck up. No one goes to a comic book movie to see a director's style: they go to see the comic book property on the big screen. That's why Marvel's so successful. The guy who directed Thor 2 said he didn't have enough creative control, but Thor 2 was a decent film. Then, 2 years later, Terminator Genisys comes out, and it's godawful. But hey, he had creative control. -_- Fox just wants profits. At least Marvel legitimately ENJOYS satisfying their fans because then they make profits. If you satisfy the fans, you make money: it really isn't a hard concept. So what if you feel it's "lame", Fox? What you feel is lame may be something that people love. And hey, if you put it in the film, YOU. WILL. MAKE. MONEY.

If I disagreed any more with this post, I would melt like a witch and die.

It really bums me out when people expect filmmakers to have no vision for comic book movies. Decades of comic writers get to be creative, push boundaries and try new things, but if you're making a movie, you better stick to the damned book. If it was in a comic - even a comic published fifty years after the character was created - feel free to put it in your movie. But you'd better not try something that hasn't been comic-tested first. Movies just aren't the place for that.

Nearly every MCU film can be described "The hero fights to stop a guy from misusing an infinity stone/someone else's technology to become rich/powerful." (Go down the list if you don't believe me.) Cast good actors and make sure the origin story is recognizable, and they'll do exactly what you said, "satisfy." But just that. Marvel Studios movies are movies that millions of people are willing to see, but they're hardly anyone's favorite movies, for the same reason McDonald's is nobody's favorite restaurant. The chorus of "Do it like Marvel" makes my head hurt.

[TurtleTitan97]

In the case of FF, "Do it like Marvel" may be the greatest piece of advice for it. Because Fox clearly doesn't know how to handle these characters.

[ZariusTwo]

If FOX are willing to listen, they could loosen the hold in time for some FF characters to drop into an Inhumans movie, and give us the Johnny/Crystal love story

[chrisdude]

The thing about Fox is, unlike Sony, they have other properties to work with. They may be able to pull a Batman v Superman, and find some way to continue the use the property to make money. Man of Steel was no flop, but it did fail to impress. Hype sells the first movie, but the first movie sells the second movie. The second movie was in trouble. I don't believe for a second that BvS was intended to be the next film. They leveraged Batman to save Superman. Whatever the decision is, I don't expect them to make it so quickly. FF is after all, a comic book franchise, and they may still see potential in. It doesn't have to make Marvel money to be relatively valuable to Fox.

[Purse Grabbin Puke]

I just got back from seeing this...again I know next to nothing about FF other than their names, and their powers. I thought this was a good Scify movie. I don't think it needs or deserves a sequel, it was a decent one off movie.

Before the movie they showed the Green Band Deadpool trailer and a bunch of little kids went nuts. "I WANNA SEE DEADPOOL" they said....ohhh boy...wait until they find out it's rated R. They should release a PG-13 version as well as an R...I bet it would make a ton.