What REAL Proof do they actually have on Trump?

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I'm sure Kamala is full of some sort of cream....

Probably been there for a good few years, long enough that it's gone sour. And so has she.

[Andrew NDB]

Now more classified documents found in Biden's garage at his house. Next to his car. Total of 3 locations now they're finding these classified documents.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...arage-00077680

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Now more classified documents found in Biden's garage at his house. Next to his car. Total of 3 locations now they're finding these classified documents.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/0...arage-00077680

I'm no fan of biden, but doesn't this seem a bit....convenient? and now the MSM is reporting on impeachment.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I'm no fan of biden, but doesn't this seem a bit....convenient?

That's what the media is trying to push, ignoring the fact that... Biden and his lawyer on his behalf have already admitted it is his doing. Like the documents in garage that have been there for years, even visible in pictures.

[IMJ]

Probably part of his own camp's plan to get him out and get a black, female vice President promoted to President to fulfill whatever weird, almost ritualistic-like agenda they have.

Go back years in the threads and this has been the speculation of a lot of people for a long time.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by IMJ

(...) get a black, female vice President promoted to President (...)

But sadly, they're stuck with Kamala.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

But sadly, they're stuck with Kamala.

Good one.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Probably part of his own camp's plan to get him out and get a black, female vice President promoted to President to fulfill whatever weird, almost ritualistic-like agenda they have.

Go back years in the threads and this has been the speculation of a lot of people for a long time.

yep, been saying that for years. and if they can't get him out, they'll wait till he's done, and run her. but that plan went out the window when we saw how incompitent she was at her job. what has she actually done? same thing with pence.

[Andrew NDB]

I don't think so. Nobody in the left even seems to like Kamala. At least, not anymore.

[joe-eyeball]

I think it’s obvious why these documents in his possession have come to light. My guess it’s to lessen the outrage when the powers that be tell the world that there is nothing they can do to Trump because of his mishandling of classified materials. The narrative will be something like everyone does it and we need to be better at shoring this kind of thing up going forward. Let Biden and Trump off the hook and then neither side can really go too ape-$h!t over any of it. Who knows at this point?

[Andrew NDB]

But it's Biden's own lawyer who brought this forward originally. Unless Biden knew the Republicans would be coming for him on this shortly and wanted to get ahead of it, that wouldn't make much sense.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by joe-eyeball

I think it’s obvious why these documents in his possession have come to light. My guess it’s to lessen the outrage when the powers that be tell the world that there is nothing they can do to Trump because of his mishandling of classified materials. The narrative will be something like everyone does it and we need to be better at shoring this kind of thing up going forward. Let Biden and Trump off the hook and then neither side can really go too ape-$h!t over any of it. Who knows at this point?

not so, according to this article. they are gunning for him now. I best he's been seen as too 'mentally gone' too be president
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...7f05089e2e867a

[joe-eyeball]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

But it's Biden's own lawyer who brought this forward originally. Unless Biden knew the Republicans would be coming for him on this shortly and wanted to get ahead of it, that wouldn't make much sense.

You just said it yourself! They found the crap and knew that rather than try and hide it just come out with it because if you get nabbed then you’re screwed!

[joe-eyeball]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

not so, according to this article. they are gunning for him now. I best he's been seen as too 'mentally gone' too be president
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...7f05089e2e867a

You know it that ultimately all of this will lead to absolutely nothing. And it doesn’t matter what some “expert” says in a random article. It only matters what the DOJ will do and that will be nada!!!

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't think so. Nobody in the left even seems to like Kamala. At least, not anymore.

You don't have to "like" the diversity hire. That's the whole point of the diversity hire. It's a skilless entry done purely for agenda and optics.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The odds of any tax evasion are slim to none. The left continues to have this really bizarre idea that come every tax season, Trump himself is like huddled over his books in a dark room alone, cooking up lies and schemes to illegally avoid taxes. And not just, you know, every year Trump hiring and having the best most competent tax law attorneys money can buy doing his taxes for him, using every legal caveat available.

And even if they did find something dodgy which I doubt, Trump could just sue whatever tax law attorneys prepared his taxes for whatever year. It'd be like paying H&R Block to do your taxes one year and it turns out one year they accidentally stiffed the government for a bunch of money, or they forgot to include one of the W2s you gave them. That isn't on you, that's on H&R Block.

This is really very simple stuff.

It's true that the ultra rich have their people find legal loop holes to avoid paying tax however very often this simply isn't enough for them and they just flat out commit tax fraud. A good example of this is last year many of Trump's businesses were found guilty of tax fraud. While Trump may escape culpability for that since he wasn't technically running them at the time it shows he isn't averse to breaking tax laws so I wouldn't be too certain his methods for avoiding tax are entirely legal. While I still believe that he wont be indicted for anything I still hold that if they are going to get him for something it will some kind of financial fraud as opposed to the more salacious stuff we know he's done. Even if it's not tax fraud the returns could well point the way to were to investigate...such as all the foreign accounts he has in dodgy places.

Originally Posted by joe-eyeball

My thoughts on that are simply this: if the riots that occurred during the summer of 2020 protests were mostly peaceful then so was January 6th. The overwhelming majority of people that were there outside the Capital on that day didn’t do anything destructive, as is true for the summer protests. That’s not to say we should disregard any wrongdoing that took place in either case, but you’d have to be brain dead to either not see or just blatantly ignore the hypocrisy of all of this.

You're talking about BLM protests, right? If so I'd point out that while some of those protests turned to riots no one was ever killed during them...with exception of the people Kyle Rittenhouse killed but he wasn't a protester. January 6th was never planned as just a protest a good number of them had planned to storm the capital from the beginning. We now know that some of Trump's people were even involved in planning it. Part of that plan was to kill any significant opposition as well as threaten Pence with death unless he certified Trump. Sure, some people may have thought it was just a protest and I suspect some others probably felt it was just a huge larp and wouldn't happen but that's a huge different from any BLM or Antifa protest and/or riot.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I'm no fan of biden, but doesn't this seem a bit....convenient? and now the MSM is reporting on impeachment.

I don't think any documents have been planted as some suggest. This all started with Biden's people finding a small number of classified documents from when he was VP in his offices and he informed the FBI. He's co-operating with the investigation for both documents found in his office and his garage. He may not be like Trump who screams and shouts that it's all witch hunt and he's completely innocent but if this was an actual stitch up I'm sure he'd be denying he and his people had anything to do with it not playing it off as an oversight.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

aaaand it begins. watch them try too remove him o ver this and install the 'first female president'. who will undoubtably be under even a tigher leash than he was, being even dumber.

The belief among the alt right that Democrats deliberately pushed for Biden as their candidate so they could he could mysteriously die in office and they could install their first woman and woman of colour as president is dumb but at least it has some internal logic to it. The idea that they would oust Biden in disgrace and damage the reputation of their party that would almost certainly cost them the next election. All so Kamala could be president for a year. Anyone who believes that is an idiot.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by Galactus

You're talking about BLM protests, right? If so I'd point out that while some of those protests turned to riots no one was ever killed during them...with exception of the people Kyle Rittenhouse killed but he wasn't a protester.

You must’ve not have heard of David Dorn, then. Or David Patrick Underwood. Or Chris Beaty. Or Marvin Francois.

19 people were killed during the 2020 BLM protests.

I remember hearing about David Dorn’s murder and feeling disgusted over it. Apparently his life mattered less than a couple of TVs. And he was killed by a “brother” too.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

You must’ve not have heard of David Dorn, then. Or David Patrick Underwood. Or Chris Beaty. Or Marvin Francois.

19 people were killed during the 2020 BLM protests.

I remember hearing about David Dorn’s murder and feeling disgusted over it. Apparently his life mattered less than a couple of TVs. And he was killed by a “brother” too.

I worded it poorly but I stand by that if people are looting they are taking advantage of the protests/riots they are clearly not taking part in the protests themselves. If people here are trying to make a distinction between the people that actually went inside the Capital Building and those that were left outside as being innocent I think the same applies here. The only difference I would draw is that the majority of the people in DC knew the plan was to literally overthrow the government and threaten the life Pence unless he co-operated. I can buy that some of them didn't believe it or take it seriously but the majority clearly did whether they got inside the building or not.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Galactus

The belief among the alt right that Democrats deliberately pushed for Biden as their candidate so they could he could mysteriously die in office and they could install their first woman and woman of colour as president is dumb but at least it has some internal logic to it. The idea that they would oust Biden in disgrace and damage the reputation of their party that would almost certainly cost them the next election. All so Kamala could be president for a year. Anyone who believes that is an idiot.

I'm not alt right, and it makes perfect sense too me.

the democrats are CONSUMED by identity politics. they don't see it as damaging, they see it as pushing a 'troubled white patriarchy out of the way'...and stunning and bold. no one on the left will be lamenting that biden is gone, when they have their brand new shiny woman black president to woo over.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

I'm not alt right, and it makes perfect sense too me.

the democrats are CONSUMED by identity politics. they don't see it as damaging, they see it as pushing a 'troubled white patriarchy out of the way'...and stunning and bold. no one on the left will be lamenting that biden is gone, when they have their brand new shiny woman black president to woo over.

The majority of the democratic establishment don't want to crush the white patriarchy they ARE the white patriarchy. Most Democrats politicians don't care for identity politics other than when they can use it to motivate voters. Don't get me wrong they love the good optics of having the first black president and the first members of several racial, ethnic and sexual minorities in high office and the like but that doesn't actually motivate them. Think of how hard they pulled for Biden to be their 2016 candidate. Crusty old white centrist that moderate Republicans that Trump alienated can feel safe voting for. Ironically that's playing a different kind of identity politics dipping into the kind Republicans often use.

Is Biden in on the plan or an unwitting dupe? After running for president so many times is he perfectly okay with being ousted in disgrace with his reputation permanently tarnished? Is Kamala Harris okay with being president for a year before being trounced by Desantis or even Trump because voters would be very wary of any democratic candidate. Studies has shown that Comey's eleventh hour speech about Hillary's email were he basically said "she didn't break the law but she could have been more careful" actually swayed enough people on the fence to tip the election in Trump's favour. Do you think they'd want that again?

C'mon this is qanon level delusion.