Avengers 5: Doomsday - Page 13

*IMJ* · 07-21-2026, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

This is the one thing the LEAKERS don't really seem to reveal.

We know half of the movie will be Dr. Doom having convinced all of the MCU that he's a good guy, so probably using Tony's face and/or body like a skinsuit is probably a means to that end intentionally. If he's literally using Tony's body, there might be attempts to woo the Tony within him to resurface, ending with him succeeding in casting Doom out (for Doom to occupy a new body? or manifest one?) or the good guys just blast his body/face to cinders to where it doesn't even matter if RDJ is under there or not anymore.

Aannd then we get a "Good" Iron Man variant or two, or something.

I'm thinking that the FoX-Men will be in the opening scene of the movie and that's practically it. Not sure how the Shang-Chi/Gambit fight apparently in the X-Mansion falls there, but....

*Coola Yagami* · 07-21-2026, 07:57 PM

It pretty much looks like Cyclops will only be in that one scene. Those scenes with the MCU people hanging with the Fantastic Four without any X-Men sprinkled among them....

*Andrew NDB* · 07-21-2026, 08:48 PM

We know how it opens.

Spoiler:

So it is probably a quick montage of that happening to different ones with the "winners" surviving.

*IMJ* · 07-22-2026, 09:27 AM

Yup. My thoughts so far are that the Fox stuff will basically be 'destruction fodder' early on in the movie and we don't see them again.

Maybe SOME of them will return in the next "Secret Wars" flick but at the end of that everything will be amalgamated and incorporated somehow.

**Barkworm** · 07-22-2026, 09:52 AM

Seeing the Fox-Men all die could have been neat if we hadn't seen so many of them be killed in so many films only to have it retconned somehow. It's just boring now.

*Andrew NDB* · 07-22-2026, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

Seeing the Fox-Men all die could have been neat if we hadn't seen so many of them be killed in so many films only to have it retconned somehow. It's just boring now.

Which is why it would be weird if Famke's Jean Grey doesn't show up at all here, since she's one of the ones they went to all the trouble of actually resurrecting.

*Coola Yagami* · 07-22-2026, 08:54 PM

It's clear the scenes with all the X-Men characters, even the Gambit/Mystique scenes take place in the mansion. Also there is a lack of X-Men characters in all those pan out shots with the Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, Wakandans and so forth. Despite all the cameos, I guess the real bigger deal will be the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom making the MCU jump... and the return of Steve I guess.

Daytona · 07-22-2026, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Though they've done nothing BUT letdowns in everything else outside of the MCU since Endgame.

Electric State, Gray Man, Cherry, all SUCKED.

Yeah but they’re like one of those musicians who is really good within their main band but then goes and releases a crappy solo album. They’re fit for a certain position and excel at that. Hopefully.

**Barkworm** · 08-05-2026, 01:02 PM

Haven't bothered to do any research on this but why exactly is Steve Rogers young again?

*Coola Yagami* · 08-05-2026, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

Haven't bothered to do any research on this but why exactly is Steve Rogers young again?

Looks like time travel stuff. They probably grabbed him sometime after having a kid with Carter but before he got elderly.

**Barkworm** · 08-05-2026, 01:21 PM

That sounds incredibly boring.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-05-2026, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

That sounds incredibly boring.

It makes sense for the movie.

In the comics his serum wore off and he aged up. I forgot if either it kicked back in or they gave him more serum but he regained his youth.

In the movies, Steve went back in time and chose to stay behind and live out his life, which would make him old in current day.

Time travel would make more sense in the movies since they haven't introduced de-aging tech yet. Or he could be another variant.

*IMJ* · 08-05-2026, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

Haven't bothered to do any research on this but why exactly is Steve Rogers young again?

Because it's the Steve Rogers who went back in time to live with Peggy. The speculation is that at some point Loki uses the TVA to relocate Steve from the 1940s over to the Fantastic Four world from their movie with Galactus.

*neatoman* · 08-07-2026, 05:50 PM

I wonder... With the X-Men's one last reunion thing going on here, what are the odds of Kitty Pryde showing up?

*Andrew NDB* · 08-07-2026, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

I wonder... With the X-Men's one last reunion thing going on here, what are the odds of Kitty Pryde showing up?

Probably 0 until the MCU X-Men reveal. Even if Marvel had the balls to ask Ellen Page back she'd just say no unless she can make Kitty Pryde transexual.

*frank_one* · 08-07-2026, 07:07 PM

Ellen Page is no more, they can't have her play the role again.

*Autbot_Benz* · 08-14-2026, 11:14 PM

*Andrew NDB* · 08-14-2026, 11:21 PM

Wow, they're finally building up Doom with 4 months left.

*ToTheNines* · 08-15-2026, 05:11 AM

“Hell answers to DOOM” would have hit way harder, but maybe that’s just me.

*IMJ* · 08-15-2026, 07:45 AM

Trailers are designed to turn your brain off and create blind excitement. The cuts. The culminating music. A "power moment". But this movie is littered with people that almost nobody cares about. But the same old tricks don't work as well after years of dog$#!( and no build-up to Doom as this level of player. Also, these aren't even really "Avengers" movies anymore. Just "universe movies".

The main draw is basically "why is Downey cast as Doom"?

07-21-2026, 08:48 PM	#243
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,573	We know how it opens. Spoiler: The Tobey Maguire Spider-verse getting wiped out. So it is probably a quick montage of that happening to different ones with the "winners" surviving. Last edited by Andrew NDB; 07-22-2026 at 10:57 AM.

07-22-2026, 09:27 AM	#244
IMJ Emperor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Posts: 8,895	Yup. My thoughts so far are that the Fox stuff will basically be 'destruction fodder' early on in the movie and we don't see them again. Maybe SOME of them will return in the next "Secret Wars" flick but at the end of that everything will be amalgamated and incorporated somehow. __________________ Wave 1 Collectibles Online Market Watch Blog Collection Photography

07-22-2026, 09:52 AM	#245
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,759	Seeing the Fox-Men all die could have been neat if we hadn't seen so many of them be killed in so many films only to have it retconned somehow. It's just boring now. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

07-22-2026, 08:54 PM	#247
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,717	It's clear the scenes with all the X-Men characters, even the Gambit/Mystique scenes take place in the mansion. Also there is a lack of X-Men characters in all those pan out shots with the Thunderbolts, Fantastic Four, Wakandans and so forth. Despite all the cameos, I guess the real bigger deal will be the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom making the MCU jump... and the return of Steve I guess. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-05-2026, 01:02 PM	#249
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,759	Haven't bothered to do any research on this but why exactly is Steve Rogers young again? __________________ Make ****, not kill!

07-21-2026, 07:57 PM	#242
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,717	It pretty much looks like Cyclops will only be in that one scene. Those scenes with the MCU people hanging with the Fantastic Four without any X-Men sprinkled among them....

08-05-2026, 01:21 PM	#251
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,759	That sounds incredibly boring. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

08-07-2026, 07:07 PM	#256
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 2,254	Ellen Page is no more, they can't have her play the role again.

08-14-2026, 11:14 PM	#257
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,193	__________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

08-14-2026, 11:21 PM	#258
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,573	Wow, they're finally building up Doom with 4 months left.

08-15-2026, 05:11 AM	#259
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,373	“Hell answers to DOOM” would have hit way harder, but maybe that’s just me.

08-15-2026, 07:45 AM	#260
IMJ Emperor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Posts: 8,895	Trailers are designed to turn your brain off and create blind excitement. The cuts. The culminating music. A "power moment". But this movie is littered with people that almost nobody cares about. But the same old tricks don't work as well after years of dog$#!( and no build-up to Doom as this level of player. Also, these aren't even really "Avengers" movies anymore. Just "universe movies". The main draw is basically "why is Downey cast as Doom"? __________________ Wave 1 Collectibles Online Market Watch Blog Collection Photography