The Official E3 2011 Thread - Page 18

**Jester** · 06-08-2011, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergio517

How is it not stupid? Many gamers will feel like it's a rip off to buy the same game they already own just to play as a new character. Even for $40, that's insane. That can be fixed easily by releasing the new playable character as DLC. A business releasing the same game with little effort in making it stand out is cheap IMO. Not really good business, even for a quick buck. Will it sell? Maybe. Might be a success. From a consumer standpoint, it's not ideal. If you buy a car at a dealer and then that dealer later releases that same car with better wheels for example, will you buy the newer one too just for the cosmetic look, or will you just buy the new tires (if you really wanted them)?

However, thankfully Off the Record is a new game altogether taking place in the same locale as the original DR2. New areas are available and the story will be different. It's been stated that Frank will not be doing the same missions Chuck did.

You say that, but there are people who buy Madden games every year and the only major difference is a roster change. Some gamers will buy it because of the franchise, regardless of how little change there is. (Again, I'm not saying that's the case here, but it's not that stupid.)

Sergio517 · 06-08-2011, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

You say that, but there are people who buy Madden games every year and the only major difference is a roster change. Some gamers will buy it because of the franchise, regardless of how little change there is. (Again, I'm not saying that's the case here, but it's not that stupid.)

Well that I agree with. Madden games offer more in each game than what is originally being discussed, which is a character change for the same game being released. Doesn't each new Madden have a theme every year? I don't play them, but I ask because the same may hold true for SmackDown vs RAW games. Those I do buy and every year it seems like the same thing with minor changes, aside from a roster that tries to reflect the current one more accurately and the inclusion of different legends. I think the changes are enough to warrant a new game, but I personally don't like to spend $60 on the next game just for minor tweaks. I rather wait for good price drops, incentives, or deals.

But in the case of releasing a new game with a change that can be done via DLC is stupid. It's not stupid, for instance, if the change is just to attract a bigger audience. That way, for those who never bought either copy, will have a choice of which one to buy if they decide to. For current owners, it's an annoyance. DLC would better suit the issue.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 06-08-2011, 03:30 AM

Enough talk. This is the only thing from E3 that matters.

**Jester** · 06-08-2011, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergio517

Well that I agree with. Madden games offer more in each game than what is originally being discussed, which is a character change for the same game being released. Doesn't each new Madden have a theme every year? I don't play them, but I ask because the same may hold true for SmackDown vs RAW games. Those I do buy and every year it seems like the same thing with minor changes, aside from a roster that tries to reflect the current one more accurately and the inclusion of different legends. I think the changes are enough to warrant a new game, but I personally don't like to spend $60 on the next game just for minor tweaks. I rather wait for good price drops, incentives, or deals.

But in the case of releasing a new game with a change that can be done via DLC is stupid. It's not stupid, for instance, if the change is just to attract a bigger audience. That way, for those who never bought either copy, will have a choice of which one to buy if they decide to. For current owners, it's an annoyance. DLC would better suit the issue.

And DLC wouldn't work in these games that only require roster tweaks? Why do there need to be new yearly Smack Down Vs. Raw games, when they could just offer new characters as DLC?
I had a friend who had SDVs.R 06...I think... and he finally decided that he'd get 07, because the price point was good for him. There were some differences in the roster and the customizability of the characters, but that's it. Heck, the menu music was the exact same set of songs...I know because it invaded my my psyche as I tried to create my own characters.

**GK Punk** · 06-08-2011, 03:37 AM

Luckily this year they've completely revamped The WWE Franchise. A new game engine has been needed in that series for yeeeeeeeears.

Sergio517 · 06-08-2011, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester

And DLC wouldn't work in these games that only require roster tweaks? Why do there need to be new yearly Smack Down Vs. Raw games, when they could just offer new characters as DLC?
I had a friend who had SDVs.R 06...I think... and he finally decided that he'd get 07, because the price point was good for him. There were some differences in the roster and the customizability of the characters, but that's it. Heck, the menu music was the exact same set of songs...I know because it invaded my my psyche as I tried to create my own characters.

To an extent DLC is enough for roster tweaks. But then think about how many Gigs of space you'd need to give every one new attires or character models who require new changes like tattoos, hair styles, entrance changes, music changes, new arenas, a different season mode, etc. This is why a new game is welcomed. There's enough new content to warrant a new game. Speaking of '06 to '07, changes were nothing compared to what came in '08. '09 seemed like a beefed up '08. '10 felt like a better game because now you had a better engine and new additions like highlight reel which is like forge in Halo. '11 felt a lot like '10 but again it had worthy changes. For gamers who've followed the franchise, we like to complain because it all feels so similar. Maybe the problem is that we shouldn't get these games every year, if not, every 1 1/2 - 2 years. We get spoiled yearly and complain a lot.

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Luckily this year they've completely revamped The WWE Franchise. A new game engine has been needed in that series for yeeeeeeeears.

Amen!

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Enough talk. This is the only thing from E3 that matters.

Now that's what's up.

**GK Punk** · 06-08-2011, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergio517

Now that's what's up.

...Say hello to little Jimmy.

Sergio517 · 06-08-2011, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GK

...Say hello to little Jimmy.

Lol. Is that an R-Truth reference? I haven't been watching WWE in a while.

**GK Punk** · 06-08-2011, 04:00 AM

Yeah haha.

*XERO* · 06-08-2011, 08:55 AM

Too bad they didn't announce the Lil' Jimmy game.

*Redeemer* · 06-08-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Enough talk. This is the only thing from E3 that matters.

No the only thing that matters is right here!!!!!

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/06/08/ge...waves-and-bos/

*Brodie* · 06-08-2011, 11:03 AM

You're an idiot.

**Barkworm** · 06-08-2011, 11:15 AM

Seems like no one has even mentioned Skyward Sword in here. It looks beautiful.

愛 · 06-08-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

Seems like no one has even mentioned Skyward Sword in here. It looks beautiful.

The Tech were talking about it a bit when I found a youtube video of the gameplay. You're right, it looks beautiful. I can't wait to get it. Release date is 11/11/11 as of right now!

*Redeemer* · 06-08-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

You're an idiot.

Quite Non-believer!!!

*Brodie* · 06-08-2011, 12:27 PM

I was wondering what the release date was for Skyward Sword. I didn't see it mentioned in the conference.

ALSO! All the 3ds titles they announced had a date EXCEPT THE ONE THAT MATTERS: LUIGI'S MANSION. WHAT THE ****

愛 · 06-08-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

I was wondering what the release date was for Skyward Sword. I didn't see it mentioned in the conference.

ALSO! All the 3ds titles they announced had a date EXCEPT THE ONE THAT MATTERS: LUIGI'S MANSION. WHAT THE ****

When they did the gameplay demonstration for G4, at the end they mentioned the release date. I hope it's this year, that would be sweet.

**Barkworm** · 06-08-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Redeemer

Quite Non-believer!!!

There are two cases of wrong spelling and one punctuation mistake in your tiny post. You should feel ashamed.

*sdp* · 06-08-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

The first 360 model was fugly too. And you're an idiot.

I'm an idiot for disliking it? wow. Nintendo always makes nice looking hardware, this looks like a a fat Wii. The original 360 wasn't that ugly, not that it was pretty but easier on the eyes than the Wii U.

*Redeemer* · 06-08-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

There are two cases of wrong spelling and one punctuation mistake in your tiny post. You should feel ashamed.

Damn Dyslexia yeah now that u mention it

06-08-2011, 03:30 AM	#343
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Enough talk. This is the only thing from E3 that matters. __________________

06-08-2011, 08:55 AM	#350
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Too bad they didn't announce the Lil' Jimmy game. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

06-08-2011, 11:03 AM	#352
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	You're an idiot. __________________ Stupendous Monster

06-08-2011, 11:15 AM	#353
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,761	Seems like no one has even mentioned Skyward Sword in here. It looks beautiful. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

06-08-2011, 12:27 PM	#356
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	I was wondering what the release date was for Skyward Sword. I didn't see it mentioned in the conference. ALSO! All the 3ds titles they announced had a date EXCEPT THE ONE THAT MATTERS: LUIGI'S MANSION. WHAT THE **** __________________ Stupendous Monster

06-08-2011, 03:37 AM	#345
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Luckily this year they've completely revamped The WWE Franchise. A new game engine has been needed in that series for yeeeeeeeears.

06-08-2011, 04:00 AM	#349
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Yeah haha.