The Rock Confirmed To Play Black Adam In DC's "SHAZAM" Movie

[Leo656]

Do people seriously not understand how Dr. Fate works? Jesus Christ.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Do people seriously not understand how Dr. Fate works?

Does Warner Bros?

[CyberCubed]

I just started watching this and Hawkman is black now? I somehow missed the casting. Also is he human or is he a black man from Thanagar? There are black aliens now?

Why wasn't there an uproar that Hawkman is black?

[drgon78]

Just got back from the theaters, I liked it, a lot better then i thought it was going to be. Though I have to say that kid is really annoying.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by drgon78

Just got back from the theaters, I liked it, a lot better then i thought it was going to be. Though I have to say that kid is really annoying.

Terrible actor.

[CyberCubed]

I checked the first page of this thread and this was made in 2014. We're in 2022.

What on earth took 8 years for this movie to come out? What the hell.

[Andrew NDB]

Whoa, look what Cavill says on his IG. This WAS part of a larger deal.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Whoa, look what Cavill says on his IG. This WAS part of a larger seal.

https://i.postimg.cc/C5Pfn0zH/Screen...-Instagram.jpg

The question now is, Will Superman be in Black Adam 2, Or will Black Adam be in Man of Steel 2?

The thing is, As much as we would love to see those two fight, I predict that they will set aside there differences and join together to fight a bigger threat.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I checked the first page of this thread and this was made in 2014. We're in 2022.

What on earth took 8 years for this movie to come out? What the hell.

As The Rock said, Black Adam couldn't exist without the larger DC universe first being established and we all know how that's been.

[IMJ]

I would love to see Waverider on screen. Doing something central and cool to the story.

Seriously.

[CyberCubed]

Is it time for Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern to return?

[Leo656]

I wouldn't cry about it.

[oldmanwinters]

Saw it tonite. It was fine… for a movie with the Rock. Movie was carried by Rock and Pierce Brosnan mugging the camera. Also, some explicit Fast & Furious references… very meta? Maybe it was my theatre but it was hard to hear a lot of dialogue due to the background score being so loud. I do like Amanda Waller being so ever present even if it is from the shadows.

[CyberCubed]

Weirdly I thought The Rock was the weakest part of the movie. He had almost no charisma here at all which is weird because he's usually fun in most of his other movies. I think as said, him doing the serious role doesn't really work. He needs to be written like a goofball or fun badass type character, not a stoic one.

Usually there's always a moment in his movies where he does something so ridiculous you can't help but laugh, but there was nothing in that here.

[Leo656]

It's kind of a Catch-22, there really isn't anyone else who physically embodies the role as well, but as stated, he almost always plays a goof which does not fit Black Adam at all.

I blame the director, frankly. I know nothing about him but the entire point of a director is to direct the actors' performance. I've read many people say that this director has never made a truly good movie and I can kind of believe that, and a director can make or break an actor's performance. For example, look at the Star Wars Prequels: A bunch of REALLY good actors (...and Hayden F*cking Christiansen, but let's ignore that for a moment), all giving THE worst performances of their entire respective careers. That only happens if you have a bad director, or one who doesn't care about capturing the human performance as much as the spectacle of things.

I'm pretty sure that was the case here. A director in way over his head, focusing so much on getting the CGI shots right that they didn't bother directing the cast well.

They honestly should have just had Snyder do this movie, I'm dead f*cking serious. It'd be an easy 10/10, with all the plot holes and other "WTF-ery" completely neutralized, much better visuals, and much better performances from the cast with actual emotion being displayed.

[oldmanwinters]

I am not familiar with Shazam lore but for a movie like this, the backstory seems needlessly convoluted. Kinda reminds me of Keanu Reeves’ Constantine in that regard.

[AquaParade]

It doesn’t matter what’chu think!

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

It's kind of a Catch-22, there really isn't anyone else who physically embodies the role as well,

Well, Black Adam has never been like a HUGE Rock-like guy. He's usually portrayed a little bit like Namor with a swimmer's body. He DOES look a lot like the Rock did around 1999-2000 or so (hair included... and why didn't they bother to give the Rock some hair in this, exactly?). Toned but not monstrous.

Oh, and one thing I didn't mention. I definitely did hear the John Williams theme when Superman showed up! The rumor was true. It worked. I wouldn't mind seeing the full John Williams score utilized in places in a new Superman movie alongside the Zimmer-type stuff.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I am not familiar with Shazam lore but for a movie like this, the backstory seems needlessly convoluted. Kinda reminds me of Keanu Reeves’ Constantine in that regard.

It was, especially the third act plot twist that The First Champion was not Teth Adam but Teth Adam's son. That was all handled very badly and I don't think it was necessary at all.

I get WHY they did it; the movie opens with a young, idealistic kid talking about overthrowing oppression and being a hero... THEN we meet "Black Adam" and he's just a big angry rage monster, and the two seem to be completely irreconcilable, personality-wise. "This kid was talking about heroes a minute ago, now he's blowing people up with magic lightning bolts? That ain't right..."

So to explain, it, "Okay, the kid was Teth Adam's SON, and hence Black Adam is so angry and violent because he saw his family get killed. And it reconciles the two things somewhat but it definitely needed to be handled better, OR not even bother going there and just writing a better, cleaner origin story. Just say "He WAS all idealistic but then he immediately became corrupted by the power since the power was never meant for mortals to wield in the first place."

That's what I THOUGHT they were going to do, and what they should have done. The only reason I think they did not is because it's "predictable", but sometimes that's just plain better. Not everything needs to be a surprise or a twist. That whole reveal is easily, EASILY the worst thing in the entire movie, because it's so clunky, poorly done and very ill-timed; they give you this big exposition dump and then jump to a big action scene, and you can barely focus on the action scene because you're still going "Wait, so WHAT was that about with his kid, now?" Quit trying to outsmart the audience; Keep It Simple, Stupid.

There's so much disparate canon with all of the Marvels that I only know some of it well myself, but I think they were trying very hard to merge different canons into one for this, and it didn't really work. Like in the series 52 back in 2005 or so, there was a big plot about his present-day family being killed and THAT set him off on a rage - he actually murdered the entire country of Khandaq - but that was completely different from this one, I think they just wanted to keep the bones of "his family was killed" and go from there. But it's just clunky, doesn't work. Should have just said "the power corrupted him", would've been ten times better.

It also would have furthered the Adam/Superman parallels, because people being afraid of his power and how it may corrupt him has been Superman's entire arc since Man of Steel. Yeah, they just tried to do too much and f*cked it up.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I just started watching this and Hawkman is black now? I somehow missed the casting. Also is he human or is he a black man from Thanagar? There are black aliens now?

Why wasn't there an uproar that Hawkman is black?

Cyclone also wasn't black in the comics, but I guess becuase they aren't super well known charaters their casting isn't gonna make news.