Disney making live-action remake of 'The Little Mermaid'

[Andrew NDB]

Yes, of course. Of course. If the "movement" is such that "we need to co-opt existing stuff to make the lead gay/black/Asian/Hispanic so that it is most likely to sell" then you're already shooting the very cause you're trying to push forward in the foot. As in, saying such a thing has no merit on its own unless you piggyback or replace a pre-existing thing with that. Plus, how f***ed up is that? To look at one example, black people. The message is basically: "We feel you, and you're oppressed somehow in 2022, but hey... relax, we're going to fix this by reconfiguring these decades long established white roles that sell into black roles to fix the problem." And also, red-heads, you're basically black, right? What? This is a horrible idea. Film and TV should be merit based and acting should be acting. "Hotel Rwanda" won because it was a great movie. Halle Berry won "Monster's Ball" because she acted the sh** out of that.

Which isn't to say a gay/black/Asian/Hispanic thing (movie/comic/video game/etc.) can't be successful. It just means you need to actually try hard to make something original work. If you have to recast Wolverine as a transexual to give transexuals a voice and not just make a compelling transexual new character, you're just proving the point against these practices. Why is the crutch needed? Why is the crutch being championed?

[Leo656]

Halle Berry won for "Monster's Ball" because she finally got her awesome tits out, let's not go nuts.

Those WERE some Oscar-worthy tits, though, cannot lie. I have never seen the movie but I have seen that one part - or rather, screengrabs from it - a whole bunch.

[ranger_scout]

I want to do a brief recap of the first four live-action Disney Princesses who were cast. Liu Yifei and Mulan aren’t worth talking about.

In 2011, when Disney saw Paramount’s Super 8, they knew that they wanted Elle Fanning to play Aurora for Maleficent. She might’ve looked like Aurora, but Disney saw that she had the same lovely presence and dignity as the character did. Finding an actress for Cinderella took months and it was exactly like when the Prince was searching for the girl whose foot was the perfect fit for the glass slipper. Emma Watson turned it down as did other very wel-known actresses. I read that Lily James was actually auditioning to play Cinderella’s stepsister Anastasia. The producers told her since came in with blonde hair that she might as well try for Cinderella. They actually didn’t cast her sole because she had blonde hair. She had an innocence and spoke so softly like Ilene Woods did in the animated film. When Beauty and the Beast got the green light, then Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan F. Horn knew that Emma Watson was the right choice for Belle. He had worked with her at Warner Bros. while she was doing the Harry Potter series and since Belle was a bookworm like Hermione Granger, it just made sense. She was also a character that Emma really connected with. The casting of Naomi Scott as Jasmine in Aladdin was criticized because she didn’t have Middle-Eastern heritage. Disney did search through hundreds of girls with that background, but none of them seemed to have captured Jasmine’s personality. The Vice President of Disney’s multicultural casting engagement said that choosing Scott, who had a Gujarati Ugandan-Indian mother, to play Jasmine, reflected the mixing or association of cultures that all make up the Silk Road.

Halle Bailey seems to have captured the spirit of Ariel and has a lovely singing voice. That is why she got that part. Disney also liked what they saw in Rachel Zegler from her performance in West Side Story when they came to casting Snow White. We need to just accept this. It would be more fair to like or dislike their performances when we see their acting chops.

[Leo656]

I've made a life out of refusing to accept things. I ain't gotta do sh*t.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

The casting of Naomi Scott as Jasmine in Aladdin was criticized because she didn’t have Middle-Eastern heritage

Clown world.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

We need to just accept this. It would be more fair to like or dislike their performances when we see their acting chops.

I'm not sure what "accepting this" is actually going to do for the complexity of opinions on the topic. But, once again, I don't really believe that people are "angry because they are racists". Instead, I just feel that people are angry at another example of the clown world BS that really comprises the entire conversation.

And remember - this is conversation. I don't think that the people who push back are in some kind of "denial", or hyperventilating like a bad rom-com character. So "acceptance" really only sounds like you don't want to hear other people's opinions on it - maybe because you believe that it's "all about "the" racism"?

Either way, let's say that people "accept" it in silence as many on the left would command they do... But "accepting" it doesn't mean that they are going to pay for woke $#!(. But maybe they will? We will see - I'm sure this will have some box office legs - I don't think it's going to flop to be honest.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

We need to just accept this. It would be more fair to like or dislike their performances when we see their acting chops.

Just accepting this is never the answer. That reeks of 'just shut up and do as you're told', or in this particular case 'just shut up and consume'.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Just accepting this is never the answer. That reeks of 'just shut up and do as you're told', or in this particular case 'just shut up and consume'.

Exactly. It's one step on the road to the typical liberal manipulation.

1. If you don't see this or that or it fails, then it's because you are all racists (shame - manipulative & inaccurate)
LEADS TO
2. We all need to accept this (voice of reason - positional lie and misattribution)
LEADS TO
3. Now go see it to make your judgement (execution of 'win' - manipulation on false premise)

[ranger_scout]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I've made a life out of refusing to accept things. I ain't gotta do sh*t.

Originally Posted by IMJ

I'm not sure what "accepting this" is actually going to do for the complexity of opinions on the topic. But, once again, I don't really believe that people are "angry because they are racists". Instead, I just feel that people are angry at another example of the clown world BS that really comprises the entire conversation.

And remember - this is conversation. I don't think that the people who push back are in some kind of "denial", or hyperventilating like a bad rom-com character. So "acceptance" really only sounds like you don't want to hear other people's opinions on it - maybe because you believe that it's "all about "the" racism"?

Either way, let's say that people "accept" it in silence as many on the left would command they do... But "accepting" it doesn't mean that they are going to pay for woke $#!(. But maybe they will? We will see - I'm sure this will have some box office legs - I don't think it's going to flop to be honest.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Just accepting this is never the answer. That reeks of 'just shut up and do as you're told', or in this particular case 'just shut up and consume'.

Originally Posted by IMJ

Exactly. It's one step on the road to the typical liberal manipulation.

1. If you don't see this or that or it fails, then it's because you are all racists (shame - manipulative & inaccurate)
LEADS TO
2. We all need to accept this (voice of reason - positional lie and misattribution)
LEADS TO
3. Now go see it to make your judgement (execution of 'win' - manipulation on false premise)

The fact is that we are all obviously living in a completely different time than the 60s and 90s. Back then there were no social media websites and it probably really wasn't until the end of the latter when message boards were created. When Eartha Kitt took over the role of Catwoman in the classic Batman TV series, viewers were surprised that a woman of color was playing the part. However, they all went crazy about her portrayal, and both her predecessors Julie Newmar and Lee Merriwether thought she was the best of the three of them, especially because she was so cat-like and had such a fantastic purr. Brandy and the majority of the cast of Rogers and Hammerstein's Cinderella, Toni Braxton and Meshach Taylor (Belle and Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast on Broadway), and three African-American cast members of the Disney Channel series Adventures in Wonderland who played the Red Queen and Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum never had to deal with constant complaints and judgments online. The actors from The Little Mermaid, Peter Pan & Wendy, and Snow White, unfortunately, have to go through with this because of how HUGE social media can be and people jump to unfair judgments right away. Rachel Zegler (Snow White) comes across as kind of a diva and an extremely woke person, but she has gotten a ton of praise for her acting and singing lately. I'm really only going to see her movie because Gal Gadot is the Evil Queen in it.

This is one of the remakes I am looking forward to because I am a fan of Rob Marshall's work and what entertainment can do today with CGI and special effects is amazing. Also, although I grew up watching the animated film at home I don't think I ever got to see it on a big screen or during its 1997 re-release. I did, however, see it in concert on a large screen at the Dallas Symphony Orchestra three years ago. I hope when I go see this movie during Memorial Weekend next year that the audiences in the theater will be respectful.

[CyberCubed]

Because making a character from 1989 black for no reason just feels dumb. It's not even a racist thing, it's just dumb

[ranger_scout]

This is a beautiful poster.



https://www.ign.com/articles/new-lit...he-world-above

[Sumac]

Looks weird. As if it was miscolored or something.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Looks weird. As if it was miscolored or something.

To be fair, it's an awesome looking poster. Just call it Moesha The Mermaid or something and we're golden, cause that ain't Ariel.

[Andrew NDB]

I mean, is there not room for more than one mermaid in movies? They can make a black one and I can't imagine anyone is going to protest it. It just isn't Ariel.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Because making a character from 1989 black for no reason just feels dumb. It's not even a racist thing, it's just dumb

When even CyberCubed shows a ton of common sense in just one paragraph, you know how messed up SJWs/wokes are.

[ranger_scout]

“Part of Your World” has leaked.

https://www.tiktok.com/@thelittlemer...55756053679403

[IMJ]

It's supposed to be a "real" underwater take on the I.P. but there are no water bubbles or any water effects happening from all of that talking and singing.....

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by IMJ

It's supposed to be a "real" underwater take on the I.P. but there are no water bubbles or any water effects happening from all of that talking and singing.....

Well, a “real” mermaid would look more like this:

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Well, a “real” mermaid would look more like this:
https://hyperallergic-newspack.s3.am...ummermaid5.jpg

Too white for Disney.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal

Well, a “real” mermaid would look more like this:

OH MY GOD!

Originally Posted by ChosenOne

Too white for Disney.

Hey man - it's a whole new world!