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Old 07-20-2004, 05:07 PM   #21
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Another example of raph killing is in the bodycount mini. in it he gets fed up with all the gunplay so he uses their rules and guns everybody down. he realizes later though that he made the wrong choice
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:03 PM   #22
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I've made a body count from TMNT's New Cartoon. All characters are considered dead (by me) until proven alive next season:
Johnny, Purple Dragon Leader - Things Change
Triceraton Warrior - Turtles in Space (One that crashed into a rock)
Leatherhead - What a Croc
Zog - Rogue in the House pt 2

All I can think of right now. None of those deaths were caused by the turtles though except the Triceraton who went after them on that X thing in space.
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:45 PM   #23
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Leatherhead is clearly not dead, as someone said a while ago, he's been confirmed for season 3.... he could get killed off then, who knows.
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Old 07-21-2004, 02:21 PM   #24
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I've heard that too, actually. But, as far as we know from only watching the show, Leatherhead is dead. As I stated above, these people will be considered dead by me until we see them alive on the show again.
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Old 07-21-2004, 02:38 PM   #25
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We don't know if Raph killed Raptarr or whatever either

Raph has killed a lowly messenger man by accident, hehe...not sure if that's canon though (the cerebus story)
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Old 07-21-2004, 02:54 PM   #26
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We don't know if Raph killed Raptarr or whatever either

Raph has killed a lowly messenger man by accident, hehe...not sure if that's canon though (the cerebus story)
I have that comic, and Raphael doesn't kill him, Raphael knocks out the messenger (with his fist).
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Old 07-21-2004, 05:00 PM   #27
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I have it too but I'm sure at one point cerebus says 'make sure you keep the messenger-killer quiet' so I assume he actually killed him. But yeah until then I thought he was just unconscious
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Old 07-25-2004, 05:17 PM   #28
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You know, something about this has bugged me for a while. So clearly the TMNT have no problem killing people. Why, then, does Raph go in his "you can't just kill people" spiel in Raphael #1/"Meet Casey Jones"? Does he realize the truth in this statement, and that they make him a hypocrite? Or did he never truly believe what he was saying? Anyone? Heretic? Bueller?

As for the new show death count, I'd add...

1) The boat captain in the intro to "Junklantis"
2) The Foot Geneticists on "Notes From the Underground"
3) Hamato Yoshi

...to the definitely dead list, and tons of Foot , Junkies, Federat, and Triceratons to the "People the TMNT kill that we don't care about" list. So yeah, the Turtles kill in the new cartoon; we just don't see it.
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Old 07-25-2004, 09:22 PM   #29
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Old 07-25-2004, 10:48 PM   #30
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I like Leatherhead he cant die!
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Old 07-25-2004, 11:24 PM   #31
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No way. His hide is way too thick!
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Old 07-26-2004, 09:43 AM   #32
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You know, something about this has bugged me for a while. So clearly the TMNT have no problem killing people. Why, then, does Raph go in his "you can't just kill people" spiel in Raphael #1/"Meet Casey Jones"? Does he realize the truth in this statement, and that they make him a hypocrite? Or did he never truly believe what he was saying? Anyone? Heretic? Bueller?
I think Raph meant that you shouldn't kill people WHEN you DO have a choice. Casey did it out of anger and vengeance. Not exactly justice...unless you're a Ninja.

Believe it or not, Raphael does have some sense. I know; he's my brother.
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Old 07-27-2004, 09:10 AM   #33
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Casey did it out of anger and vengeance. Not exactly justice...unless you're a Ninja.
Actually, that's not justice at all. Especially to a "ninja".

Killing goes against the Laws of Nature, which is the basis of the Ninja's belief system. Unless deemed absolutely necessary, that is.
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Old 07-28-2004, 12:22 PM   #34
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As for the new show death count, I'd add...

1) The boat captain in the intro to "Junklantis"
2) The Foot Geneticists on "Notes From the Underground"
3) Hamato Yoshi

...to the definitely dead list, and tons of Foot , Junkies, Federat, and Triceratons to the "People the TMNT kill that we don't care about" list. So yeah, the Turtles kill in the new cartoon; we just don't see it.
Duh, how could I have forgotten those. I knew I was leaving some out.
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Old 07-28-2004, 03:27 PM   #35
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I would have to say they killed some foot soilders and elete when they blew up the ship in rouge in the house part 2 and there is no evidience of leatherhead being dead. THEY KIND OF killed shredder, but the worms regenerated him. It is hard to say if they killed zog because his death was his choice.
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