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Old 02-09-2005, 03:29 PM   #21
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This all gets me worked up. We allow people to argue any point at all, 'because they can'.

Like in the schools. You can't do ANYTHING to the kids. Detentions or anything, because, (literally, I witnessed this) the kids say (to the principal, too) 'I dare you to give me detention. I'll have my lawyer down here so fast...'

*shakes head* It's a sad state of affairs... like how you can sue for ANYthing. *rolls eyes*
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:30 PM   #22
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Nowhere in there does it say that it means 'that sucks'. Read the dictionary. And learn more adjectives.
I'm pretty sure "fo shizzle", "chillaxing" and other slang, regardless of how stupid they are, won't wind up in Websters anytime soon.

Regardless of what Mr. Dictionary says, people use it, WIDELY, to say "it sucks". And it isn't a matter of learning more adjectives. Sometimes saying "oh sh*t" is a lot more appropriate than saying "My goodness gracious".
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:33 PM   #23
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Well, I lived 25 years using multiple adjectives and such to never swear. And not saying things that may offend others, because of the word.

So, really, I do think there are many more 'appropriate' things to say other than swearing, or something that may be offensive.

It's not difficult. I did it the first 25 years of my life.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:34 PM   #24
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Passing laws that tell you how to dress is just plain iditoic. Hell, take a lesson from Europe. Let there be nude parks.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:36 PM   #25
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Well, I lived 25 years using multiple adjectives and such to never swear. And not saying things that may offend others, because of the word.

So, really, I do think there are many more 'appropriate' things to say other than swearing, or something that may be offensive.

It's not difficult. I did it the first 25 years of my life.
Diffrent strokes, I suppose. But when someone cuts my finger off I'm not going to be calling them a "miserable cretin", or rooting around in my vocabulary for an alternative to swearing that doesn't offend the overly sensetive by-standers.

And some people aren't so worried about offending the sheltered. Not a matter of it being difficult or not, and it certainly isn't a matter of that person being rude. If a full grown adult can't handle hearing a swear word then that's their problem.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:36 PM   #26
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Passing laws that tell you how to dress is just plain iditoic. Hell, take a lesson from Europe. Let there be nude parks.
Oh, I agree with that. But, it's sad that we let things get so bad with letting people do whatever they want, and all that, that we have to if there's to be any decency sometimes. People lack common sense (not just with this subject) and that's sad.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:37 PM   #27
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This all gets me worked up. We allow people to argue any point at all, 'because they can'.

Like in the schools. You can't do ANYTHING to the kids. Detentions or anything, because, (literally, I witnessed this) the kids say (to the principal, too) 'I dare you to give me detention. I'll have my lawyer down here so fast...'

*shakes head* It's a sad state of affairs... like how you can sue for ANYthing. *rolls eyes*

That kinda stuff I Really cant stand. We've had things where teachers have been FIRED because some bleeding heart parents were offended by something in the textbooks or whatever.

We've basically gone from one extreme to another. People cant do Anything these days without having to worry about getting sued or whatever.

My Nephew (the feral one), pulls stuff like this. if you do something that he doesnt like (he is Beyond spoiled), he'll go to his teachers at school and say that you threatened to kill him, his sister and his pets... or pull a gun on him... or say that you taught him to look up girls' skirts...

I miss the days when a swat on the ass wasnt considered abuse.




And I agree with you Jo, the lack of common sense in people these days is Apalling...
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:39 PM   #28
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Diffrent strokes, I suppose. But when someone cuts my finge off I'm not going to be calling them a "miserable cretin", or rooting around in my vocabulary for an alternative to swearing that doesn't offend the overly sensetive by-standers.
I could care less about by-standers and how sensitive they are. I know what I... you know what? Doesn't matter, heh. No one listens anyway. Plus, getting a finger cut off is an extreme situation, anyway. I'm talking how people feel compelled to have every other word be some ludicrous, nonsensical, un-needed offensive word, just because 'that's how they talk'. In normal conversations.

Am I saying people who swear are bad? Not at all. I don't wanna be accused of that.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:40 PM   #29
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I miss the days when a swat on the ass wasnt considered abuse.
I completely agree. They never should have gotten rid of paddling students. They obviously need it. There's no respect there anymore. As is obvious.

Enough on that. I can feel my blood pressure skyrocketing. Blah. It really gets me fired up.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:44 PM   #30
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I could care less about by-standers and how sensitive they are. I know what I... you know what? Doesn't matter, heh. No one listens anyway. Plus, getting a finger cut off is an extreme situation, anyway. I'm talking how people feel compelled to have every other word be some ludicrous, nonsensical, un-needed offensive word, just because 'that's how they talk'. In normal conversations.

Am I saying people who swear are bad? Not at all. I don't wanna be accused of that.
Like I said, sometimes "Oh sh*t" is more appropriate.

And not everyone talks like a Kevin Smith film. I agree people shouldn't swear in front of children. But people who use swear words casually and not excessively aren't stupid and they don't have a limited vocabulary, which seems to be what you were implying earlier.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:47 PM   #31
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If that's how I came off, then I apologise. Trust me, there's someone who's the smartest person I know, and he occasionally lets the swear words fly, heh.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:54 PM   #32
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Swear words are just part of my basic conversation vocabulary. It was just all around me in school, and I have yet to rip it out. I'm an adult, anyway, and like DrSpengler said, if an adult can't handle my swear words, then that's his problem.
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:09 PM   #33
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Swear words are just part of my basic conversation vocabulary.
i see no reason for them seriously, there are plenty of perfectly good and often underused adjectives in the English language. all cursing shows me is that the person has little grasp of adjectives and other discriber words.
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:11 PM   #34
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If you say so. Swear words are funny to me, so I end up using them. And they show casualty in the conversation. I don't want to be a stuck up geek who is an English Nazi.
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:13 PM   #35
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I find that some words are funnier than a curse. take the case of turd, dung, or doodie....isn't that funnier than...well u know??
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:17 PM   #36
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Not really, but that's just me.

This is getting way off-topic. Let's get back to it, shall we?
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:21 PM   #37
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First it'll be our pants than our right to say doodie!!!!
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:50 PM   #38
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Wow. Funny how this turned into a big debate on swearing.

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I dunno... they're expressing their choice of underwear brand? You can BS a lotta stuff in our court system here... lol. But yeah, if they say they're expressing themselves, it falls under freedom of speech, and then this law's prohibiting that.
Well, I would still like to know what exactly is expressed by this low-riding pants thing. What does it mean? There needs to be proof in this pudding, otherwise the government is not going to consider this as an issue worth looking into.
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:50 PM   #39
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If you say so. Swear words are funny to me, so I end up using them. And they show casualty in the conversation. I don't want to be a stuck up geek who is an English Nazi.
They show casualty in the conversation?

'Stuck up geek'. Nice. Wanting to converse in plain old english does not make one stuck up. *rolls eyes*

Not saying I don't converse with people who swear. I've even let a few slip from time to time. But saying that someone who doesn't swear is a 'stuck up geek and english nazi' is like me saying people who swear are 'uncouth and unintelligent imbeciles' (NO, I'm not saying they are... I'm making a point.). Unfair to put them into groups like that.
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:53 PM   #40
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The whole argument is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard of. Ever.
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