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Old 12-08-2002, 12:42 PM   #21
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heh heh heh

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Yeah, thanks for the insite their heretic888 but I'm sticking with Shellfox on this one. Splinter should have been human. If not, where did he learn martial arts? When he was still in a cage? How is that realistic? I just can't comprehend that concept at all. Maybe its just me.
They made him a rat in the movie because he was a rat in the comic, of which the movie was based on. Trust me, BOTH origin stories are unrealistic to begin with. But, the point of real art is not to express realism but to express depth. The comic saga does this. The cartoon does not.

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And its just my opinion that the cartoon truely started it all. I'm sorry if you took offense to that. But speaking from personal experience every one I know got into the turtles because of the cartoon.
Just because the cartoon mass-popularized the characters does not mean it defines them. The apex of the turtle archetypes is hardly limited to the amusement of children.

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now you two are downright low, are you making fun of karpo cuz he's from finlnd, he knows a hell of a lot more than you do than the tmnt and it shows, the cartoon ruined mike and raphs personality's if the was no comic than there would be no cartoon
This is true on all accounts. Debasing people due to their nationality is small-minded, and the cartoon truly did butcher all of the turtles' characters, but Mike and Raph the most.

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Dude, next time you post speak english. I dont speak Swedonic. Do you REALLY know me? Are you that fellow that is always peeking in my bedroom window? I am from Sweden too, but I tell these americans that I am from there to make them think that all americans are as smart as me. No, you do not know me ugly person.
I'm not going to even touch the self-hypocrisy of that post.

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I must agree with my intellect on this next comment. You are retarded. Have you not read anything we've posted about people having opinions and whatever? Your opinion is now the worst opinion in my opinion, you may rottttttt in turds forever now, retarded one.
Intellect, huh?

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basically it all boils down to what you think the Ture TMNT universe is

is it the comic?
is it the cartoon?
"the cartoon made them popular"
"but without no comic there wouldn't be a cartoon"

there are 2 sides to this and no one will come to a conclusion
Well, you have to understand that for most people this is simply a matter of personal taste and preference. However, for those that begin to experience true depth and the value of great art, it becomes apparent that there are superior modes of self-expression. The mirage tmnt series connects with that. The cartoon does not. But, until you mature as a human being, the truth of this will seem dubious.



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Well I could get offeded but I can see that guy is a little brat who wants to scream, I don't think I will. Nor I wont need to respond to that. He obivously know little to nothing about true TMNT or the cartoon for that matter.

Of course people can have their own opinnions, but little brats like that tend to get on my nerve. Luckily he seems to be only one like that here, other people had good opinnions. I have watched almost full TMNT cartoon in last months(170 eps). And I own the Full Volume 1 of TMNT comic. Cartoon is better for kids, Mirge for older people.

If someone likes the cartoon better, thats ok. But have you even read the comics? If not, you can hardly say wich is better. As for that guy Zenrick, We all should ignore him.
I could not agree more.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:44 PM   #22
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OK now Im begining to think that this guy deserver a warning. He seriously can't take a hint, but goes on offending people. I hope Krang reads this thread, we don't need people like that here. If people won't agree with you, you start offending people and their Home countries? Really, you should leave this place. We haven't had jerks like you much here, and I think all agree when I say we don't need people like you here.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:46 PM   #23
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we dont need people like you here and we dont want people like you here, dissing people an their home countries? that is low
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:48 PM   #24
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Re: heh heh heh

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The apex of the turtle archetypes is hardly limited to the amusement of children.
What kind of dirty tree-hugger are you? You smell of butt rott. Do my energies indeed come from the archetypes? I must say so.

Way to band together with these other turds that dont like me, bring more people in here and get them to argue, its fun. Turd.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:49 PM   #25
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I hope you guys arn't talking about me..

i was just saying that people have there own opinions
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:49 PM   #26
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Is warnings even worth discussing? He should be banned, right on the spot.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:49 PM   #27
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um zenrick did u notice your the only one calling people turds maybe that you should take a hint a realize that you are the only turd around here
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:50 PM   #28
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we dont need people like you here and we dont want people like you here, dissing people an their home countries? that is low
Dude, that was like 20 years ago, man let it go and keep arguing on new topics. I dont like any country, so I have a lot to say about them all, where are you from? I can find many many things to say about it too if you like? Or we can continue to discuss the turtles. Bring it on buddy.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:51 PM   #29
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how about you F*cking read what it says by my name OHIO stupid, wait um ill be like you, you turd
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:53 PM   #30
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I am 22 and will never let go of the TMNT cartoon as the best form of ninja turtle entertainment. I have read the comic book, it is good, but will never catch hold of me quite like the cartoon.
22, my pregnant ass!!

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Ahh first he acts like a total jerk, then works as a spell checkker. And seriously no one is going to belive you are 22. I think more like 13 and I have seen many people at that age act much more mature than you do. Maybe you should either shut up, or learn how to behave on public discussion board.
I agree completely.

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Ok right here I THOUGHT you were just an idiot. Now I KNOW. "Blah blah blah archetypal energies blah blah, look at me guys I learned this sweet word in english class let me use it over and over again!!!"
Well, this 'idiot' has an International Baccealureate Diploma, child.

As for my discussion of archetypes and archeypal energies, I suggest you take a look at transpersonal psychological literature if you want to understand.... or better yet, Plato's discussion of Forms.

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man, you are amazing.
Thank you, child.

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My archetypal energies tell me you are incorrect budd-o smelly pants.
It is unintelligent to use words you don't know the meaning to.

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My archetypal energies tell me you are incorrect-o buttman. Hope all you like, but I have the distinct power of the ARCHETYPAL ENERGIES on my side!! BRRWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! *punches someone using archetypal energies*
It would be ill-advised to initiate a physical confrontation with me, child, as I have several years of martial arts experience.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:53 PM   #31
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We really should start ignoring him. It does no one any good to fight with him. We have all seen what kind of jerk he is, Im sure Krang will give him a warning or maybe even a ban if he doesn't stop that.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:53 PM   #32
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So you dont like Sweden and Finland because those living there dont speak and write 100% correct English?
Once again you're a moron if you think you can just switch topic. You offend people because of their home countries and then belive that they dont care 10 minutes later?
But yes, its time to leave this obviously immature person alone.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:54 PM   #33
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how about you F*cking read what it says by my name OHIO stupid, wait um ill be like you, you turd
In no where does your profile say OHIO, I see O hi O, hmmmmmm do I smell a fetus turd? and whats with the swearing buddy? Swearing isnt cool lets not cuss here. Since you are an american you are obese, americans are all obese and anyone that denies it is a stupid obese american in obese denial. and NO you will not be like me because I am not obese like you. Turd.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:55 PM   #34
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i'm not from sweden or finland, but wht he is doing is wrong
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And now I just hope this Thread gets locked and and that guy gets a warning. Hopefully Azure is here soon before this evolves into a real fight.
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:56 PM   #36
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zenrick i hope you know that your comeback jus kept repeating itself over over and over
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Old 12-08-2002, 12:59 PM   #37
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And now I just hope this Thread gets locked and and that guy gets a warning. Hopefully Azure is here soon before this evolves into a real fight.
Hahahaha, what are you guys gonna do? Fly from your home countries to try and defend your title as TMNT debate master!! hahahahaha. Oh and what heretic said about physical confrontations and having martial art experience, I am still laughing as hard as ever about that!!! AAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!! "Your training may come in handy someday my son in case you get into a heated ninja turtle discussion!" aaaaahahaha, I bet your archetypal energies told you that. Oh, and you're pregnant as well? Is your fetus typing this stuff?
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Old 12-08-2002, 01:01 PM   #38
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You shoudnt say anything about debate, since you obviously doesn't know what it means.
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*Grabs a coke and some popcorn, and waits for the next round*

Come on guys, seriously, lets knock it off here, this is getting really pathetic. Zenrich, everyone has their own opinion, so shut up if you don't agree. You have some serious online issues to work out bro. This is just a forum where people have discussions, so take it easy and get a life man. I have seen this happen on many forums I previously went to, and it is just plain retarded.

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*Grabs a coke and some popcorn, and waits for the next round*

Come on guys, seriously, lets knock it off here, this is getting really pathetic. Zenrich, everyone has their own opinion, so shut up if you don't agree. You have some serious online issues to work out bro. This is just a forum where people have discussions, so take it easy and get a life man. I have seen this happen on many forums I previously went to, and it is just plain retarded.

SCANDANAVIANS RULE!!!!!
Who is Zenrich? hmmmm, a question to be asked is something I will be doing to myself soon enough based on this topic posed one sentence before. hmmmmmmm. Everyone has their opinion, read the entire discussion before you enter bud, the opinion matter came up a long time ago. My opinion is just the best opinion in my opinion.

Scanda who? is that some kind of rollercoaster ride?
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