Gargoyles

[Doppleganger]

Originally Posted by Kali

I myself have drawn Gargoyle/Turtle hybrids, although I don't really have a story to go with them.

I now have the urge to draw TMNT clones a la Sevarius' technique, with all the warped coloring. Slash suddenly popped into my mind for that.

Oh yes yes please! Maybe a red clone, a yellow clone, a purple, and an albino. All with those creepy red eyes. Or like the Gargoyle clones (minus Thailog) different colored eyes. Oh but then...April/turtle clone. Venus maybe?

[Aska_Badoura]

A crossover? *scratches her head* Gargoyles takes place in the mid-nineties. TMNT 2K3 takes place now. Well, dates don't have to matter unless we want to extrapolate ten years. I did have the idea for co-acquaintance character of both Elisa and April. You know, knows them both, casually. Maybe April’s got something in her shop Demona wants to get her hands on. Though Bishop and Sevarius together could be terrifying. Hmmm…

*shrugs* I know, but it's not like the Gargoyles aren't probably still around. Of course a lot of stuff could have happened between then and now. (Oh, gosh, Alexander would be ten! With some siblings probably! ) Or like you said, it could be overlooked. I dunno.
I don't think Bishop would be able to stand Sevarius. I could see a big personality clash there.

His voice is very dark and eerie. He was the voice of Spawn on the (awesome) HBO series and his voice fit the bill perfectly. It's very gloomy and growly.

Ohhh. I didn't know that (or maybe I did and forgot, now that I think of it). Hmm, yeah, I guess it would seem creepy in that context.

Yeah, he did Minos on Aladdin, and King Sebar later. I forgot about Apollo, you're right!

*Sigh* Here we go arguing over semantics again. :p

LOL! I thought you'd say that. Nah, I knew what you really meant. Just giving you a hard time.

I myself have drawn Gargoyle/Turtle hybrids, although I don't really have a story to go with them.

I've seen 'em, I likes. I haven't tried any of my own, but I've drawn Amandatello's "Ellies" a few times.

I now have the urge to draw TMNT clones a la Sevarius' technique, with all the warped coloring. Slash suddenly popped into my mind for that.

Maybe a red clone, a yellow clone, a purple, and an albino. All with those creepy red eyes. Or like the Gargoyle clones (minus Thailog) different colored eyes.

I keep wondering about the cloning thing in TMNT2K3. I dunno what Bishop's up to (other than the 'super soldier' goal); is he going to be enhancing humans, or making new critters? Then again, they're trying to restrict the number of mutants running around, so probably not. But a crossover, that would allow for the clone thing.

Oh but then...April/turtle clone. Venus maybe? :p

Woah. That'd throw my project for a loop...

[Doppleganger]

I don't think Bishop would be able to stand Sevarius. I could see a big personality clash there.

Yeah but I could see a bigger one with Sevarius and Stockman. They are both egotists but...I think Stockman takes the cake in being full of himself there.

[ZariusTwo]

...Is this a Gargoyles thread, or a fanfiction thread?

Anyone want to seperate the posts discussing fanfiction "crossovers" into an actual fanfiction discussion thread in the fan forum? I'd like to discuss what has actually happened in the show

[Kali]

Oops! Seemed natural to compare the two.

Well, what's everybody's favorite episodes? Characters? My favorite episode's The Mirror. Puck is such a fun character, and I love how he plays with Demona. Few can mess with her like that without losing a limb or two. Elisa looks so pretty as a Gargoyle, and it’s such a riot to see Gargoyles running scared of a small group of humans. I still wonder what Xanatos and Fox looked like as gargoyles.

[Aska_Badoura]

Yeah but I could see a bigger one with Sevarius and Stockman. They are both egotists but...I think Stockman takes the cake in being full of himself there.

Oh dear, they'd kill each other...

Anyone want to seperate the posts discussing fanfiction "crossovers" into an actual fanfiction discussion thread in the fan forum? I'd like to discuss what has actually happened in the show

Awwww, do we have to? Okay...

I still wonder what Xanatos and Fox looked like as gargoyles.

Oh yeah! And the rest of the human cast in NYC as well... Robbins, Vinny , Matt Bluestone... etc etc. There was so much that would have been cool to see in that ep, but pointless for moving the plot along. Ah well.

[Doppleganger]

Anyone want to seperate the posts discussing fanfiction "crossovers" into an actual fanfiction discussion thread in the fan forum? I'd like to discuss what has actually happened in the show

Oh but Zarius that is the point of having fanfiction. To explore things that wouldn't normally happen in the show and fans want to see (i.e. Elisa and Goliath together, them having a kid even though it's impossible, different pairings) but true, too true. Gargoyles deserves it's own fanfic discussion thread.

But anyways, there's plenty on the show that we can discuss. Like...what's the real deal on Lex. Or what Titania told Fox at the end "The Gathering".

[Kali]

What specifically about Lexington? Question: Is it actually true canon if we are given a "fact" about the universe from the creator(s) that wasn't shown on the show? We all know they aren't gonna bring up the deal with Lex in show...

Personally, I think Titania said something about this all turning out according to what she planned. I think Greg’s having too much fun keeping this from us.

[Doppleganger]

I think Greg’s having too much fun keeping this from us.

Of course it wouldn't be Greg Weisman if he didn't.

[Aska_Badoura]

Question: Is it actually true canon if we are given a "fact" about the universe from the creator(s) that wasn't shown on the show? We all know they aren't gonna bring up the deal with Lex in show...

I'm personally a little grumpy about that. I don't really believe it. And he didn't give a definite answer, really, like he didn't want to pin it down. So unless he says, without a doubt, so and so is the way it is, I wouldn't call it canon. But if he does (like the names of future family members, and his few other direct answers), I'll take it as canon. Of course, I also don't want to take that certain bit of info as canon.

Titania's whisper to Fox never really bothered me. Greg probably doesn't know exactly what she said either, anyway.

[Doppleganger]

Anyone see the preview for next week think the Donnie episode is a little too similar to Gargoyles "Future Tense"? Granted it's not a dream (hopefully) and by all accounts Shreddar is real. But missing eye Raph. Cyborg Don. Anybody else see eerie coincidences?

[Kali]

Well, I didn’t go to The Gathering he announced it at, but from second-hand info, Greg’s decision on the Lex thing is definite. He’s even answered questions concerning it at Ask Greg. Still doesn’t make it true canon, I suppose.

And I didn’t immediately connect the Future Tense thing. I mean, Future Raph has always lost an eye. Mirage, Image, Archie. And the “villain takes over” AU senerio isn’t exactly new. Cyborg Don’s been done, as well. I personally thinks it’s more of a “great minds think alike” thing. However, if they have Karai and Raph together…

[Doppleganger]

Originally Posted by Kali

And I didn’t immediately connect the Future Tense thing. I mean, Future Raph has always lost an eye. Mirage, Image, Archie. And the “villain takes over” AU senerio isn’t exactly new. Cyborg Don’s been done, as well. I personally thinks it’s more of a “great minds think alike” thing. However, if they have Karai and Raph together…

Now that you mentioned it...the whole "future is ruled by the villain" thing does a general formulaic feel to it. Friends have died. Someone gets mutilated. And they're fighting a rebellion against an enemy. It sounds generalized but it works. Can't wait actually for the when Disney does season 2. I hope they do. *crosses fingers*

[Aska_Badoura]

Greg’s decision on the Lex thing is definite. He’s even answered questions concerning it at Ask Greg. Still doesn’t make it true canon, I suppose.

*erks* Really? I haven't looked over there in a while.. Greg, why are you doing this...?

[ZariusTwo]

I actually think anything that a creator says about his own characters IS canon.

I mean...a certain TMNT Scrappy Doo character exists, but Pete does'nt acknowledge her, so we don't count her as canon.

[Machias Banshee]

C'mon, be nice Zarius....

*pets her frozen tuna*

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

C'mon, be nice Zarius....

*pets her frozen tuna*

...Just giving an example

If it makes you feel any better, Aska handles her perfectly

[Machias Banshee]

Thank you, and I agree.

[Doppleganger]

Zarius go on over to Fanfiction.net and take a gander at the Gargoyles and TMNT (well any fandom really) I guarantee you you'll find some pretty bad Mary Sues that make Venus tame. Not that I'm saying she's a good character.

But moving right along anyone see anymore TMNT/Gargoyles similarities? I always thought that Saki looked kind of like Tony Dracon. Now if he started calling April "sugar" I think I'd be laughing my ass off.

[Jester]

I love gargoyles. I'll buy all 3 seasons (yes even the sad season 3) So Lex would actually betray the clan...doubtful. Besides, it was a dream indused by puck anyway...although he did say that it could be more than a dream, a prophosy!!