Metal Gear Solid Will Officially Be A Movie - Page 2

Dinny · 05-23-2006, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

That post was sure...........something...

I'm not quite sure what.....

Bootylicious?

OA · 05-23-2006, 04:11 PM

Thats great news about MGS...big fan of the series...though to be honest, I dont see how much different it would be from Rambo, you know one man taking on an army...esp if they have Crena playing the Col and they adapt snakeater!

*Raven* · 05-23-2006, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RedXander

NO!!!!

Its bad enough they're even making a movie, because
nobody ever makes movies the way they should be made...

Kojima would not only make the movie worse, he would
disgrace it by adding some kind of gay crap that would
only peak the interest of some teenage girl rather than
the TRUE fans of the Metal Gear series....

Dont get me wrong, I have super high hopes for the film
being the huge MGS fan that I am, but I'm preparing myself
for a bigtime disappointment,
the movie WILL have something wrong with it...

So wait....your saying that Kojima the creator of the series would make it worse if he worked on it?

Do us a favor and dont call your self a MGS fan ever again.

*R-iZZy* · 05-23-2006, 08:05 PM

PWNT!

Seriously though, I don't see Kojima using his most coveted franchise to appeal to some teenage girls. The story is way too complicated for teenage teeny-bopping girls to understand, anyway.

Peanut · 05-23-2006, 08:33 PM

Or way too stupid.

I bet this was just a little misunderstanding, the movie and the game will be the same thing. The release date will be the same day as the game, and no one will be able to tell the difference between the two.

I wonder if they'll have a videogame tie-in for the movie. It would be pretty confusing. A game based on a movie ,which is based on a game that's basically a movie.

*Kid Icarus* · 05-23-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Or way too stupid.

I bet this was just a little misunderstanding, the movie and the game will be the same thing. The release date will be the same day as the game, and no one will be able to tell the difference between the two.

I wonder if they'll have a videogame tie-in for the movie. It would be pretty confusing. A game based on a movie ,which is based on a game that's basically a movie.

:LOL:

Took the words out of my mind...

InsaneZane · 05-24-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by major pain

So wait....your saying that Kojima the creator of the series would make it worse if he worked on it?

Do us a favor and dont call your self a MGS fan ever again.

What he is referring to is the fact that Metal Gear Solid 2 had so much potential in the storyline, and Hideo Kojima ruined it by changing the main playable character... not only did he try to solve a problem where there wasn't one by making the main character a younger pretty-boy type just to please a bunch of people who wern't true fans in the first place (the people who complained about the main character in a video game being too old...which is true... Kojima admitted it himself.) but also, the way he directed a bunch of cut-scenes in "Sons of Liberty" and "Snake Eater" are not only corny, but dosn't make sense at all... as far as keeping realism in mind. (referring to stuff like: the scar on the boss slithering away, which is supposed to be symbolic, but still...thats pretty stupid...and etcetera...there are plenty of examples like this one at my disposal) Not to mention he kept the whole thing a complete secret during development by not releasing any screen shots of Raiden AND don't forget he's nowhere to be seen on the box-art even though hes the main player through the majority of the game...It was almost like Hideo Kojima was TRYING to disappoint the "true" fans.

And to RedXander...
There are plenty of people who could do well as Solid Snake other than Hugh Jackman... it's just that he is relativly perfect for the role... being that the first time Solid Snake ever had "real" facial features was in "Sons of Liberty" where he stangly resembled Hugh Jackman after David Hayter (vo-Solid Snake) did the screenplay for "X-Men: The Movie" ...so thats a little more than just a coincedence., plus he's not a bad actor...and his voice for Wolverine is definatly acceptable as Solid Snake.

*Dr. Doom* · 05-24-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Or way too stupid.

I bet this was just a little misunderstanding, the movie and the game will be the same thing. The release date will be the same day as the game, and no one will be able to tell the difference between the two.

I wonder if they'll have a videogame tie-in for the movie. It would be pretty confusing. A game based on a movie ,which is based on a game that's basically a movie.

I will kill you in your sleep.

*Raven* · 05-24-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneZane

What he is referring to is the fact that Metal Gear Solid 2 had so much potential in the storyline, and Hideo Kojima ruined it by changing the main playable character... not only did he try to solve a problem where there wasn't one by making the main character a younger pretty-boy type just to please a bunch of people who wern't true fans in the first place (the people who complained about the main character in a video game being too old...which is true... Kojima admitted it himself.) but also, the way he directed a bunch of cut-scenes in "Sons of Liberty" and "Snake Eater" are not only corny, but dosn't make sense at all... as far as keeping realism in mind. (referring to stuff like: the scar on the boss slithering away, which is supposed to be symbolic, but still...thats pretty stupid...and etcetera...there are plenty of examples like this one at my disposal) Not to mention he kept the whole thing a complete secret during development by not releasing any screen shots of Raiden AND don't forget he's nowhere to be seen on the box-art even though hes the main player through the majority of the game...It was almost like Hideo Kojima was TRYING to disappoint the "true" fans.

Ok maybe I missed it but no where do I see in redxanders post where he talks about his dislike towards MGS2, he only talked about how Kojima would disgrace the film.

Speaking of MGS2, many people just didnt get what was going on. To many people dont like to think, the whole series so far has been based off of the theorys of MEME, FEME and I forget the other one. Its all about passing on ones genes, Raiden was used to show a whole new perspective of Snake and how badass he is.
(oh and it goes to show for example in the new MGS4 trailer, the new perspective Kojima gave to Raiden has all the Raiden hatters saying they wish they could play him instead of snake now, and no I'm not kidding go check any bored realeted to MGS, its crazy)

Speaking of dissapointments, if every true fan hated MGS2, then why didnt they hate MGS3. They werent playing as The Snake, but Naked snake who of course became Big Boss. So shouldnt the true fans be mad that they werent playing the real snake by what you said.

InsaneZane · 05-24-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by major pain

Ok maybe I missed it but no where do I see in redxanders post where he talks about his dislike towards MGS2, he only talked about how Kojima would disgrace the film.

Speaking of MGS2, many people just didnt get what was going on. To many people dont like to think, the whole series so far has been based off of the theorys of MEME, FEME and I forget the other one. Its all about passing on ones genes, Raiden was used to show a whole new perspective of Snake and how badass he is.
(oh and it goes to show for example in the new MGS4 trailer, the new perspective Kojima gave to Raiden has all the Raiden hatters saying they wish they could play him instead of snake now, and no I'm not kidding go check any bored realeted to MGS, its crazy)

Speaking of dissapointments, if every true fan hated MGS2, then why didnt they hate MGS3. They werent playing as The Snake, but Naked snake who of course became Big Boss. So shouldnt the true fans be mad that they werent playing the real snake by what you said.

Ok, first of all i never said the true fans hated MGS2, obviously they dont otherwise they wouldnt be fans and RedXander's remark about Kojima disgracing the film was more than likley related to the wide-spread disappointment of MGS2's main character.
Second of all, I never personally had a problem with Raiden as a character... or playing as him IN ADDITION, just not INSTEAD... plus, I was already aware of his role in the story as far as the VR training, but they could have explained that without making him the main character...not to mention that i don't think that playing as Raiden in MGS4 is that bad of an idea, as long as he dosn't take over as the main player through the majority of the game... as far as the mgs boards and ppl saying they would rather play him now, it's probably because Snake looks like hes about to die from a stroke and Raiden is still pretty young and he's known for wielding a sword, which ppl like in videogames.
and finally, Plenty of ppl were upset that they couldn't play as Snake himself in "Snake Eater"... but they dealt with it easier, because he looks and sounds exactly the same as Solid Snake instead of this albino baby-faced whiner... but if you ask me Big Boss shouldn't have resembles Snake so closly to his famous appearance in MGS2... because it dosn't make sense... Big Boss has a mullet in "Snake Eater"... that alone dosn't make sense, not only did ppl in general not ever have thier hair that long back then unless they were a hippie or gettin into "the Beatles fad" or something, but especially because he's a soldier of the government, which are known to either be close-shaven or have a crew cut....
not to even mention the fact that the entire reason they gave The Boss OR Big Boss the bandana was specifically so he would look even more like Solid Snake... which I think wouldv'e been a better touch to Big Boss if they left both of those features OUT!

*Raven* · 05-24-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneZane

Ok, first of all i never said the true fans hated MGS2, obviously they dont otherwise they wouldnt be fans and RedXander's remark about Kojima disgracing the film was more than likley related to the wide-spread disappointment of MGS2's main character.
Second of all, I never personally had a problem with Raiden as a character... or playing as him IN ADDITION, just not INSTEAD... plus, I was already aware of his role in the story as far as the VR training, but they could have explained that without making him the main character...not to mention that i don't think that playing as Raiden in MGS4 is that bad of an idea, as long as he dosn't take over as the main player through the majority of the game... as far as the mgs boards and ppl saying they would rather play him now, it's probably because Snake looks like hes about to die from a stroke and Raiden is still pretty young and he's known for wielding a sword, which ppl like in videogames.
and finally, Plenty of ppl were upset that they couldn't play as Snake himself in "Snake Eater"... but they dealt with it easier, because he looks and sounds exactly the same as Solid Snake instead of this albino baby-faced whiner... but if you ask me Big Boss shouldn't have resembles Snake so closly to his famous appearance in MGS2... because it dosn't make sense... Big Boss has a mullet in "Snake Eater"... that alone dosn't make sense, not only did ppl in general not ever have thier hair that long back then unless they were a hippie or gettin into "the Beatles fad" or something, but especially because he's a soldier of the government, which are known to either be close-shaven or have a crew cut....
not to even mention the fact that the entire reason they gave The Boss OR Big Boss the bandana was specifically so he would look even more like Solid Snake... which I think wouldv'e been a better touch to Big Boss if they left both of those features OUT!

Whoa I never said you had a problem with Raiden either, sorry if you took it that way I was merly stating what Kojima was trying to do with that character.
About Big bosses hair guess I've never thought of that before (but at this point he's under a secert unit so they might not have policies such as that but then again they may)
but the bananda part had sentimental value to it, Naked Snake wore it because the Boss use to.

I think we can let Redxander tell us what he ment about Kojima disgracing the film.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 05-24-2006, 08:07 PM

Well, since the games are ending, may as well cash in with a movie.

*Spitfire* · 05-24-2006, 11:54 PM

Their finially going to end it? Awesome maybe I can read the book version or watch the cut scene DVD and make sense of it that way. I might as well. Not like playing the game is any different. If your good at it, it plays like this.

2 hour intro
30 minutes of codec talking
1 minute of gameplay
30 more minutes of codec
10 minutes of playtime
2 more hours of cut scenes
Some more codec
Want to save, 12 minutes of codec after saving

YEAH! Real fun. You could say I can skip it, but then I wont know what the hell is going on and that sirs just plain sucks.

I want my cut scenes to be good but I also don't want them longer then 5 minutes. Unless it's an ending movie then it can be kinda long.

*Dr. Doom* · 05-24-2006, 11:59 PM

That sounds like communist talk to me. -=Alerts the FBI=-

*Spitfire* · 05-25-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

That sounds like communist talk to me. -=Alerts the FBI=-

Not me sir, my cat on the other hand has an agenda I often question.

Peanut · 05-25-2006, 01:14 PM

Spitfire tells the truth. I straight up tossed my MGS2: Subsistance game onto the shelf and never touched it again after the first level. 30 minute intro! 20 minutes of gameplay interrupted by boring codec chat and awful dialouge! Now how about another 30 minutes of cut scenes, that not only make no sense, but just sound plain terrible! ALLL RIIIIIGHHHT!

It wouldn't even be so bad if the game itself were amazingly fun, but it isn't. Splinter Cell kills it in the stealth department. What do you have left, Snake? Boxes? Pff.

*Dr. Doom* · 05-25-2006, 01:24 PM

Now everyone gets to watch me beat Peanut with a sack of bowling pins for 30 minutes.

*R-iZZy* · 05-25-2006, 02:06 PM

MGS2 wasn't fun? :shocked:

[Keanu Reeves]WHOOOA![/Keanu Reeves] I haven't played Subsistence, but I did play the original Sons of Liberty, and I thought they game was kickass. I can't imagine a remake with more features actually being worse.

*puts on a poncho*

I, for one, actually liked Raiden. Sure, he was a bit on the emotional side, which is something we didn't need in the series, but it's not like he was completely irrelevant to FOXHOUND. The little "glitch" twist at the end of the game, I thought, was pretty creative. It freaked the hell out of me for a while. I also liked the setting in this game (especially Snake's "tanker" mission). The hangar was nicely designed, enemies were challenging, and the story was pretty strong.

I am heavily biased for the MGS series, so this might be the groupie in me speaking. But I still love that game.

*Raven* · 05-25-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by R-iZZy

I am heavily biased for the MGS series, so this might be the groupie in me speaking. But I still love that game.

Same here, I try to keep an open mind about oponions of the game but usaully fail when doing so.

The one thing I will never let any one tell me is that Splinter cell is better then MGS, Splinter cell has nothing to it except a few gimmics to sell it. The creators of the game have actually said that Sam fisher is the only badass that can sneak into a building and do his mission, he's dark and gritty.

Wow that dosent remind me of any...nope no one...

So far right when Kojima accounces what will be in the next MGS game we see a new splinter cell game released with a half asses attempt at that idea (like sony and nintendo).
I'm sorry I just hate splinter cell, some people can like it and thats fine but MGS does stealth so much better, you have more options to choose from in MGS then you do in splinter cell.

Peanut · 05-25-2006, 06:15 PM

No you don't. Dude, I don't even like Splinter Cell, and I can admit that the options and gameplay totally blow MGS straight out of the water. Go ahead and name one thing MGS does better than Splinter Cell in the stealth department. Besides the fact that Sam Fisher has dozens more moves than Snake, stealth actually makes sense in Splinter Cell.

Ever seen that MGS speed run where the dude just runs around the view cones of the enemies? That just shouldn't be allowed to happen in a stealth game.

Take the story out of MGS and, much like the FF series, you have a mediocre game. Take the story out of Splinter Cell and you still have a good game. Just look at the things MGS fans freak out about. A 15 minute MOVIE that shows no gameplay at all! That says something all by itself.

As far as Splinter Cell running on gimmicks...well you'll need to come up with a much better excuse to try and shame that game.

05-23-2006, 04:11 PM	#22
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Thats great news about MGS...big fan of the series...though to be honest, I dont see how much different it would be from Rambo, you know one man taking on an army...esp if they have Crena playing the Col and they adapt snakeater! __________________

05-23-2006, 08:05 PM	#24
R-iZZy The Long Con Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: G'ville, FL (Gator Country), USA Posts: 3,007	PWNT! Seriously though, I don't see Kojima using his most coveted franchise to appeal to some teenage girls. The story is way too complicated for teenage teeny-bopping girls to understand, anyway. __________________

05-24-2006, 08:07 PM	#32
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Well, since the games are ending, may as well cash in with a movie. __________________

05-24-2006, 11:54 PM	#33
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Their finially going to end it? Awesome maybe I can read the book version or watch the cut scene DVD and make sense of it that way. I might as well. Not like playing the game is any different. If your good at it, it plays like this. 2 hour intro 30 minutes of codec talking 1 minute of gameplay 30 more minutes of codec 10 minutes of playtime 2 more hours of cut scenes Some more codec Want to save, 12 minutes of codec after saving YEAH! Real fun. You could say I can skip it, but then I wont know what the hell is going on and that sirs just plain sucks. I want my cut scenes to be good but I also don't want them longer then 5 minutes. Unless it's an ending movie then it can be kinda long. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

05-24-2006, 11:59 PM	#34
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	That sounds like communist talk to me. -=Alerts the FBI=- __________________ I love you, Pickle.

05-23-2006, 08:33 PM	#25
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Or way too stupid. I bet this was just a little misunderstanding, the movie and the game will be the same thing. The release date will be the same day as the game, and no one will be able to tell the difference between the two. I wonder if they'll have a videogame tie-in for the movie. It would be pretty confusing. A game based on a movie ,which is based on a game that's basically a movie.

05-25-2006, 01:14 PM	#36
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Spitfire tells the truth. I straight up tossed my MGS2: Subsistance game onto the shelf and never touched it again after the first level. 30 minute intro! 20 minutes of gameplay interrupted by boring codec chat and awful dialouge! Now how about another 30 minutes of cut scenes, that not only make no sense, but just sound plain terrible! ALLL RIIIIIGHHHT! It wouldn't even be so bad if the game itself were amazingly fun, but it isn't. Splinter Cell kills it in the stealth department. What do you have left, Snake? Boxes? Pff.

05-25-2006, 01:24 PM	#37
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Now everyone gets to watch me beat Peanut with a sack of bowling pins for 30 minutes. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

05-25-2006, 02:06 PM	#38
R-iZZy The Long Con Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: G'ville, FL (Gator Country), USA Posts: 3,007	MGS2 wasn't fun? :shocked: [Keanu Reeves]WHOOOA![/Keanu Reeves] I haven't played Subsistence, but I did play the original Sons of Liberty, and I thought they game was kickass. I can't imagine a remake with more features actually being worse. puts on a poncho I, for one, actually liked Raiden. Sure, he was a bit on the emotional side, which is something we didn't need in the series, but it's not like he was completely irrelevant to FOXHOUND. The little "glitch" twist at the end of the game, I thought, was pretty creative. It freaked the hell out of me for a while. I also liked the setting in this game (especially Snake's "tanker" mission). The hangar was nicely designed, enemies were challenging, and the story was pretty strong. I am heavily biased for the MGS series, so this might be the groupie in me speaking. But I still love that game. __________________

05-25-2006, 06:15 PM	#40
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	No you don't. Dude, I don't even like Splinter Cell, and I can admit that the options and gameplay totally blow MGS straight out of the water. Go ahead and name one thing MGS does better than Splinter Cell in the stealth department. Besides the fact that Sam Fisher has dozens more moves than Snake, stealth actually makes sense in Splinter Cell. Ever seen that MGS speed run where the dude just runs around the view cones of the enemies? That just shouldn't be allowed to happen in a stealth game. Take the story out of MGS and, much like the FF series, you have a mediocre game. Take the story out of Splinter Cell and you still have a good game. Just look at the things MGS fans freak out about. A 15 minute MOVIE that shows no gameplay at all! That says something all by itself. As far as Splinter Cell running on gimmicks...well you'll need to come up with a much better excuse to try and shame that game.