Old toons on tv? - Page 2

TMNT-Leonardo · 06-25-2006, 01:38 PM

That's cause it was a kids show! Do you except intense storylines and such? The 80s were like that. Cartoons didn't have much of a continuity back then. The new one is more instense, as you say, because it is based on the original comics, which was ment more for adults (blood and violence manily). Peter Laird, who worked on the original comics, works on the new series.

*ZariusTwo* · 06-25-2006, 03:37 PM

Transformers G1 only had a few plot holes in continuity and got tighter in that department during the third season (it had plenty of it in the first season but it vanished back then). He-Man had intense storylines, Thundercats, Centurions, Dungeons and Dragons, all had great storylines etc, not to mention depended heavily on continuity. So did the Disney cartoons.

And if some people were'nt so biased towards the new show, they'd know the original had dark storylines also. Mostly in the early and final seasons, but that's not really why it's superior to the new version, it's superior because of how "childish" it is, it's funny, more original, funnier characters, a more versed appeal.

The new show may be intense, dark, and serious. But THAT is sometimes also fracking BORING,. You're always exepecting a comedic balance in the show, and it's near impossible. Even the comics balance humour out.

The original>the new version six ways to sunday.

**Krang** · 06-26-2006, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kittie february6

This place needs more classic TMNT fans

Definitely. Well, you can count Shredder and I in, since we based this site around the classic cartoon (the new cartoon didn't even exist when we opened the site). To me, the main bad guys (Krang, Shredder, Bebop, and Rocksteady) and the fact that it didn't take itself too seriously (especially considering the whole concept of the TMNT) were what made the classic cartoon so fun and enjoyable, and I don't find any form of TMNT that doesn't have these elements worth watching.

**GK Punk** · 06-26-2006, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Krang

the fact that it didn't take itself too seriously (especially considering the whole concept of the TMNT) were what made the classic cartoon so fun and enjoyable, and I don't find any form of TMNT that doesn't have these elements worth watching.

That is a point that I think others often forget. The show took it's self just as serious as it needed to be, no more no less. It was a silly and fun show, that still had interesting storylines and characters.

~~BartAllen~~ · 06-26-2006, 04:36 AM

I wouldnt mind seeing the old show on TV again. I doubt cartoon network would put it on the air, maybe G4?

tmnt_girl · 06-26-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BartAllen

I wouldnt mind seeing the old show on TV again. I doubt cartoon network would put it on the air, maybe G4?

could i just say, cbbc used to show it. I used to watch it from cbbc.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-26-2006, 01:38 PM

why can't some one bring up their love of the old show and (heaven forbid) say that they like the old show better than the new one? I don't think any one here was saying they disliked the new one or even that they where planning not to watch it any more. No one was putting it down so there is no need to put the classic toon down.

**GK Punk** · 06-26-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BartAllen

I wouldnt mind seeing the old show on TV again. I doubt cartoon network would put it on the air, maybe G4?

I'd like Boomerang or Toon Disney to pick it up, personally. I know the Toon Disney thing wouldn't happen, like ever but it'd still be pretty cool. I could swear I heard somewhere that Entertainment Rights was considering starting their own Cartoon channel. That'd be bad ass if they did, and they aired classics like TMNT, Transformers G1, Jem and GI Joe as well as Filmation's library.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 06-26-2006, 07:45 PM

I don't get why the classic TMNT toon goes for long absences from TV in the country it was made in: USA. It deserves more airtime. As far as the UK is concerned, yes it was on the CBBC channel back in 2002/3, but not been on since, and i can't see the BBC bringing it back on, unless another cable/satellite channel gets the rights to show it.

Mike Bock · 06-27-2006, 01:58 AM

I am one fan that supports the classic show in everyway. I enjoy the new show but it isn't as good as the classic.

I really, really miss Bebop and Rocksteady and the funny Shredder with Krang. Many hate these guys and hate them because they are not part of the original comics but hey they are awsome.Just because they are not part of the original com,ics doesn't mean they are bad characters. I miss the Technodrome and the ooze.

The new show would've been a million times better if we had had more mutations and humor. That's what made the classic a hit if you ask me.

*Sage Ninja* · 06-30-2006, 02:39 PM

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The new show would've been a million times better if we had had more mutations and humor. That's what made the classic a hit if you ask me.

nah, I like the new toon for its serious air, i don't want a re-done classic cartoon. Although we might be getting something to this affect with fast foward business.

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And if some people were'nt so biased towards the new show, they'd know the original had dark storylines also. Mostly in the early and final seasons, but that's not really why it's superior to the new version, it's superior because of how "childish" it is, it's funny, more original, funnier characters, a more versed appeal.

I agree there where plenty of times in the classic toon series where in amidst all the craziness and tongue-in-cheek humour and slap stick, there was a current of seriousness going on underneath it all. Like the story plot of Donatello's duplicat, was a bit on the serious side even though it was dilvered in a light hearted matter; and that was a story line that was in season five. Also the Mutagent man episode where some poor innocent person gets mutated and loses most of his body parts was a bit dark if you ask me, heck you could even see his intestines

. That was in season four or sixe i believe.

Hey Krang! what is your favorite season in the classic toon?

*Drtooth* · 06-30-2006, 02:45 PM

At the sake of trying to tie everything together, both series are special in their own right. Being a fan of the comic, I like the new series a tiny tiny bit more, but I LOVE both of them. I just choose to ignore the live action one.

As for the old series on TV... I recall seeing a promo for a network that was never made. I saw it on an old video in art school back 5 years ago. I can't really tell if it was a proposed network trying to publicize itself via college campuses, or if it was just a student project (as a promo, some sort of demo reel for someone who wants to work making network promos) or what, but old TMNT was definately one of the clips. other clips included Conan, Mighty Mouse the New Adventures, and several Japanese shows I didn't get the name of at the time. Something like an adult animation lover's channel.

I've always been angered over the lack of animation driven cable networks. I mean, we have 7 ESPN channels, and they ALL show Sports Center 24/7.... Boomerang, Funimation, Nicktoons... stuff like that... we have a few, but not one dedicated to showing a massive variety for older animation fans... something with cartoons from the olden days, up until the more adult shows on today. Just old shows, no original programming.

But I have a feeling in a few years, companies will realize the potential of streaming medai, or downloadable (LEGAL) episodes of certain shows. Soon, we won't need to petition for DVD's... we'll do it for shows to legally download.

06-25-2006, 01:38 PM	#21
TMNT-Leonardo Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 265	That's cause it was a kids show! Do you except intense storylines and such? The 80s were like that. Cartoons didn't have much of a continuity back then. The new one is more instense, as you say, because it is based on the original comics, which was ment more for adults (blood and violence manily). Peter Laird, who worked on the original comics, works on the new series. __________________ Turtle Power!

06-25-2006, 03:37 PM	#22
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,487	Transformers G1 only had a few plot holes in continuity and got tighter in that department during the third season (it had plenty of it in the first season but it vanished back then). He-Man had intense storylines, Thundercats, Centurions, Dungeons and Dragons, all had great storylines etc, not to mention depended heavily on continuity. So did the Disney cartoons. And if some people were'nt so biased towards the new show, they'd know the original had dark storylines also. Mostly in the early and final seasons, but that's not really why it's superior to the new version, it's superior because of how "childish" it is, it's funny, more original, funnier characters, a more versed appeal. The new show may be intense, dark, and serious. But THAT is sometimes also fracking BORING,. You're always exepecting a comedic balance in the show, and it's near impossible. Even the comics balance humour out. The original>the new version six ways to sunday. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks Last edited by ZariusTwo; 06-25-2006 at 03:44 PM.

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Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	why can't some one bring up their love of the old show and (heaven forbid) say that they like the old show better than the new one? I don't think any one here was saying they disliked the new one or even that they where planning not to watch it any more. No one was putting it down so there is no need to put the classic toon down. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

06-26-2006, 07:45 PM	#29
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I don't get why the classic TMNT toon goes for long absences from TV in the country it was made in: USA. It deserves more airtime. As far as the UK is concerned, yes it was on the CBBC channel back in 2002/3, but not been on since, and i can't see the BBC bringing it back on, unless another cable/satellite channel gets the rights to show it. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

06-27-2006, 01:58 AM	#30
Mike Bock Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Splinter's Dojo Posts: 366	I am one fan that supports the classic show in everyway. I enjoy the new show but it isn't as good as the classic. I really, really miss Bebop and Rocksteady and the funny Shredder with Krang. Many hate these guys and hate them because they are not part of the original comics but hey they are awsome.Just because they are not part of the original com,ics doesn't mean they are bad characters. I miss the Technodrome and the ooze. The new show would've been a million times better if we had had more mutations and humor. That's what made the classic a hit if you ask me. __________________ http://mikebock.deviantart.com/gallery/

06-26-2006, 04:36 AM	#25
~~BartAllen~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 922	I wouldnt mind seeing the old show on TV again. I doubt cartoon network would put it on the air, maybe G4?

06-30-2006, 02:45 PM	#32
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	At the sake of trying to tie everything together, both series are special in their own right. Being a fan of the comic, I like the new series a tiny tiny bit more, but I LOVE both of them. I just choose to ignore the live action one. As for the old series on TV... I recall seeing a promo for a network that was never made. I saw it on an old video in art school back 5 years ago. I can't really tell if it was a proposed network trying to publicize itself via college campuses, or if it was just a student project (as a promo, some sort of demo reel for someone who wants to work making network promos) or what, but old TMNT was definately one of the clips. other clips included Conan, Mighty Mouse the New Adventures, and several Japanese shows I didn't get the name of at the time. Something like an adult animation lover's channel. I've always been angered over the lack of animation driven cable networks. I mean, we have 7 ESPN channels, and they ALL show Sports Center 24/7.... Boomerang, Funimation, Nicktoons... stuff like that... we have a few, but not one dedicated to showing a massive variety for older animation fans... something with cartoons from the olden days, up until the more adult shows on today. Just old shows, no original programming. But I have a feeling in a few years, companies will realize the potential of streaming medai, or downloadable (LEGAL) episodes of certain shows. Soon, we won't need to petition for DVD's... we'll do it for shows to legally download. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]