OFFICIAL NEW EP DISCUSSION for 25Nov06: "The Freaks Come Out at Night" - Page 2

*Duke* · 11-25-2006, 09:09 AM

Not a bad episode and thankfully, Splinter finally acted like Splinter. I must say that Fast Forward is finally starting to grow on me. It's not the 2k3 series, but it isn't the complete garbage I'd thought it be either.

syk_skillz · 11-25-2006, 10:04 AM

Best episode yet of the series. almost felt like the 2k3 series.

*CyberCubed* · 11-25-2006, 10:38 AM

Surprising, I thought the episode was much weaker than the previous couple of weeks. Much more routine too, meh.

The previous episodes of FF seemed to be building up to something more exciting, but this one just wasn't as good.

*Raph's Girl* · 11-25-2006, 11:30 AM

This ep was...kinda filler-ish. Yes we learned a bit about Sho'kanobo's background but there really wasn't
a point to it. Ooh sunlight destroys the Konobo....

The fun part was the plug in for Famous Jays.
I've seen specials on the discovery channel, learning channel, ect on Famous Jays. Seeing the evil pigeon
again was kinda funny...it's like whenever there's a mutation there's a pigeon to be mutated.

But yay! Raph saved the day! Oh and um Cody sorta too...

Now I wonder how Sho'konobo will get rid of the sun...cuz you just know he'll do that...

Oh and the title of this ep was totally misleading... the freaks come out at night? Um... no.. not really since it was never night time in this ep!

Now for a couple questions:
1: Why didn't sunlight effect the pigeon?
2: Where did the pigeon go?

Quotes:

"Meditation helps but I also have earplugs!" - Splinter

As for next week: Dark Turtles!!

blue_angel99 · 11-25-2006, 12:28 PM

Good Episode! I rate it 7 out of 10. I was kinda grossed out by the belching though, but it was funny seein Leo and Splinter lettin' 'em rip too.

It was strange cause they seem so out of character.

Next weeks clip: DARK TURTLES!

*Duke* · 11-25-2006, 12:31 PM

This was the first episode were Splinter actually seemed mostly in character, with mediation, compassion for his Sons, and not setting around looking stupid with his soaps. Hopefully this trend will continue.

*cowabunga14* · 11-25-2006, 12:43 PM

I feel depressed that I didn't get to see this episode -- mainly cuz I overslept...

I guess I'll wait for 4Kids to rerun it or have a member do the favor of putting it on YouTube.

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-25-2006, 12:55 PM

I missed it too...actually to be honest, i knew i was missing it but didnt have the urge to go turn it on...i was half-busy you could say. Anyone see any clips from the dark turtles episode? Hows it look?

*Raph's Girl* · 11-25-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Underoath740

I missed it too...actually to be honest, i knew i was missing it but didnt have the urge to go turn it on...i was half-busy you could say. Anyone see any clips from the dark turtles episode? Hows it look?

Yea...the clip showed the turtles meeting the dark turtles.

"Who are you?!"

Dark Mike: "We're you but with major issues!"

*Spike Spiegel* · 11-25-2006, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cowabunga14

I feel depressed that I didn't get to see this episode -- mainly cuz I overslept...

I guess I'll wait for 4Kids to rerun it or have a member do the favor of putting it on YouTube.

Man, because of YouTube, I haven't even watched 4Kids in nearly a month now.

**Jester** · 11-25-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Yea...the clip showed the turtles meeting the dark turtles.

"Who are you?!"

Dark Mike: "We're you but with major issues!"

Actually (cause it's all i saw) Dark Mikey said, "Made from your tissues, but with major issues." I had it set to record....1/2 an hour after the fact...and since I tell it to record a couple minutes of buffer on either end, i got the last bit of the episode and the preview for next week...hopefully I can see it soon.

Nexxorcist · 11-25-2006, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blue_angel99

Good Episode! I rate it 7 out of 10. I was kinda grossed out by the belching though, but it was funny seein Leo and Splinter lettin' 'em rip too.

It was strange cause they seem so out of character.

Everybody Pukes. hehe

Shadow Wolf75 · 11-25-2006, 06:17 PM

Yeah, was a decent episode. For a while there I was almost thinking it was gonna be a two-parter, what with everybody but Raph getting turned into a drone. The sunlight was a bit of a copout, but it sorta goes with Sho'kanabo more or less being a living shadow, it's the whole light versus dark thing.

I feel sorry for Serling, though. The poor guy always ends up getting damaged and then everyone else just leaves him there to fend for himself! Yeah, I know they had important stuff to do, but Don or Cody could've took a minute to do some field repairs or something. I dunno, I just don't like characters getting neglected by their so called friends . . .

*gobo* · 11-26-2006, 12:22 PM

I thoroughly enjoyed this one. I even found the jokes to be funny. Again, it was a shining example of a good Fast Forward episode. Perhaps the number of decent eps in a row made me more receptive...

Everyone seemed in-character. Some think that Leo belching was out-of-character, but he is just a kid after all. He grew out of his so-serious-it-hurts phase from season 4. Raph had the opportunity to show off his leadership abilities by saving everyone on purpose, but he stumbled on the answer out of sheer dumb luck instead. Then, the writers ignored the opportunity to have Raph come up with a heroic tall-tale of how he saved the day. Is Raph really not interested in beating Mikey at his own game anymore?

Even though the plot was a tad transparent from its exposition, the action kept coming too fast for me to care.

The three things that made me roll my eyes were:
#1
The thing about the pigeon that Raph's Girl mentioned. It flew through sunlight. So, the inconsistency just seems like lazy planning. But, it was forgivable since that's the kind of imperfections that differentiate American animation from anime. I would expect no better from most American 'toons.
#2
How dumb can Mikey get? Relish is not purple! But, since NinjaTurtles.com suggests that he was supposed to spew green slime, there must have been a last-minute recoloring to make the junk look more Sh'Okanabo-like. So, that was reasonable.
#3
Raph: Well, there goes all the evidence of Sh'Okanabo's plot
Cody: We know the truth.
WTF are they talking about?? What evidence did he leave in that building? This is the only thing that really bugged me. Those lines were used for dramatic effect, not because they made any contextual sense. If I dwell on it too much, it will ruin the whole ep for me. So, on to better things... ^_^

Similarly, there were three instances that had me blowing soda out of my nose (excellent for clearing your sinuses). I'll arrange them in countdown fashion.
#3
Donnie: What's going on?
Splinter: *belch* And, why do I taste raw hot dogs?
#2
Serling: Someday, you must show me how you manage to tune them out.
Splinter: My meditation grants me serenity, but earplugs don't hurt either.
#1
Donnie: Everybody, stay back.
Mi'kanabo: (Growls and bats Donnie across the room)
Donnie: (Nonchalantly) Yeah. This is a safe distance.

The comedy was a much stronger influence than the nit-picks. So, I give this ep four and a quarter Famous Jay's hot dogs out of five. If they continue getting better, I'll have to reconsider getting the DVD in February. It still depends on things like bonus features or when we'll get an American DVD release of The Lost Season (since I refuse to get FF first), etc.

*J Legault* · 11-26-2006, 01:08 PM

Average episode, but least the jokes made up for that.

I like how they mentioned that cloning is already a common thing in 2105. The owner of Jays is the clone of the original owner.

And I laugh when the turtles are enjoying original Hot Dogs, since these past few episodes kept stating that there's less fast food in 2105.

Aska_Badoura · 11-26-2006, 02:11 PM

This month has been insane... haven't been able to watch Turtles when I normally do... didn't get to see the one from two weeks ago till that Friday, and then the electricity went out when I tried to tape the one from last week, so I didn't get it... or so I thought. I popped in my tape to watch yesterday's ep, only to find that it did get last week's ep (and I don't know how, since the lights did go out before it aired)! Last week I'd figured it wasn't worth checking the tape, cuz it would only disappoint me... but there it was, so I saw two eps today.. ah, the Monks from the Jammerhead ep cracked me up.. the Force, sheesh. And seeing the pic of April and Casey was sniffly. I miss them.

Yesterday's ep was interesting... I thought a bit of Donny's mutation at the end of Season 4, and a little of Leatherhead's dreamscape Turtles.

I thought they should have made it a little more clear that the sunlight only kills the seedling Konabo... Sh'okanabo himself had no problem with sunlight. And it also seemed to be direct sunlight, rather than filtered and/or reflected light, but that didn't necessarily come across well, either. Eh, it was still fun.

LOL, Mike was the one carrying the pretty girl this time, instead of Don. I dunno why I notice these things...

The burping... eh, the new environment is encouraging bad habits?

I'd say "poor Serling", but I think that's a given by now. But part of what makes him so charming is that he takes it all in stride. He hasn't run down the street screaming yet.

Nano · 11-26-2006, 03:24 PM

I thought this was a good episode until they realized sunlight would solve the problem. I was really hoping for a 2 parter where Raph is on his own trying to figure out what to do, and right before the last commercial it looked like that was going to happen. The jokes were pretty funny in this one. I thought though this seemed too similar to the body jacker episode where some entity takes over the Turtles body. The show displays more promise with each episode, but I may lose interest in it before they get to the good episodes.

*Drtooth* · 11-27-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

And is it just me or are alot of these FF eps the titles of songs??? *sings* They only come out at night....

You know... I had a funny comeback to that, but I can't for the life of me remeber it I swear, you would all have been laughing...

Anyway, mindless burp jokes aside (Animaniacs sorta desensitized me to laughing at burp jokes. I mean, after all they did burp several classical movements) this was a pretty good episode. I mean, it did forshadow something really cool to come. I mean, because the sun will counter act the genetic restructuring, who's to say this is Shokenabo's (sp? It took me forever just to get his name right.) only attempt?

BUt am I the only one who saw the sunlight playing a factor a mile away with the title, "Freaks come out at NIGHT?"

Quote:

#2
How dumb can Mikey get? Relish is not purple! But, since NinjaTurtles.com suggests that he was supposed to spew green slime, there must have been a last-minute recoloring to make the junk look more Sh'Okanabo-like. So, that was reasonable.

I dunno! Maybe it's SPACE relish. But then again, Mikey is stupid, and that's pretty much the only "Mikey is stupid" joke that made me laugh all season.

BTW, anyone else bust a gut with the "Futurama-ish" joke about them cloning the original Jay?

*Duke* · 11-28-2006, 09:34 AM

Hmm...It kind of surprising that past episodes have gotten a lot more discussion than this one. As in my opinion it was definitely one of the best FF with the exception of the rushed ending. I guess people just really do love to hate fast forward and have absolutely nothing to say when they realize that atleast a part of them enjoyed it.

*CyberCubed* · 11-28-2006, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke

Hmm...It kind of surprising that past episodes have gotten a lot more discussion than this one. As in my opinion it was definitely one of the best FF with the exception of the rushed ending. I guess people just really do love to hate fast forward and have absolutely nothing to say when they realize that atleast a part of them enjoyed it.

That's because while this ep was decent, it wasn't as good as the last couple of weeks.

The recent Jammerhead one, Inuwashi Gunjin one, Turtle Titan ep, etc. were better than this episode.

Maybe it's because the Darius Dun arc is a bit more interesting than the Shok'onobo arc. The writers have two stories going on at once and next week looks like they combine to an extent.

11-25-2006, 10:04 AM	#22
syk_skillz Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2004 Location: Flint, Michigan Posts: 248	Best episode yet of the series. almost felt like the 2k3 series. __________________

11-25-2006, 11:30 AM	#24
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	This ep was...kinda filler-ish. Yes we learned a bit about Sho'kanobo's background but there really wasn't a point to it. Ooh sunlight destroys the Konobo.... The fun part was the plug in for Famous Jays. I've seen specials on the discovery channel, learning channel, ect on Famous Jays. Seeing the evil pigeon again was kinda funny...it's like whenever there's a mutation there's a pigeon to be mutated. But yay! Raph saved the day! Oh and um Cody sorta too... Now I wonder how Sho'konobo will get rid of the sun...cuz you just know he'll do that... Oh and the title of this ep was totally misleading... the freaks come out at night? Um... no.. not really since it was never night time in this ep! Now for a couple questions: 1: Why didn't sunlight effect the pigeon? 2: Where did the pigeon go? Quotes: "Meditation helps but I also have earplugs!" - Splinter As for next week: Dark Turtles!! __________________

11-25-2006, 12:28 PM	#25
blue_angel99 Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 382	Good Episode! I rate it 7 out of 10. I was kinda grossed out by the belching though, but it was funny seein Leo and Splinter lettin' 'em rip too. It was strange cause they seem so out of character. Next weeks clip: DARK TURTLES! __________________

11-25-2006, 12:43 PM	#27
cowabunga14 Lover of Weird Things Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CA Posts: 4,014	I feel depressed that I didn't get to see this episode -- mainly cuz I overslept... I guess I'll wait for 4Kids to rerun it or have a member do the favor of putting it on YouTube. __________________ How can something so beautiful shine on something so dreadful?

11-26-2006, 12:22 PM	#34
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I thoroughly enjoyed this one. I even found the jokes to be funny. Again, it was a shining example of a good Fast Forward episode. Perhaps the number of decent eps in a row made me more receptive... Everyone seemed in-character. Some think that Leo belching was out-of-character, but he is just a kid after all. He grew out of his so-serious-it-hurts phase from season 4. Raph had the opportunity to show off his leadership abilities by saving everyone on purpose, but he stumbled on the answer out of sheer dumb luck instead. Then, the writers ignored the opportunity to have Raph come up with a heroic tall-tale of how he saved the day. Is Raph really not interested in beating Mikey at his own game anymore? Even though the plot was a tad transparent from its exposition, the action kept coming too fast for me to care. The three things that made me roll my eyes were: #1 The thing about the pigeon that Raph's Girl mentioned. It flew through sunlight. So, the inconsistency just seems like lazy planning. But, it was forgivable since that's the kind of imperfections that differentiate American animation from anime. I would expect no better from most American 'toons. #2 How dumb can Mikey get? Relish is not purple! But, since NinjaTurtles.com suggests that he was supposed to spew green slime, there must have been a last-minute recoloring to make the junk look more Sh'Okanabo-like. So, that was reasonable. #3 Raph: Well, there goes all the evidence of Sh'Okanabo's plot Cody: We know the truth. WTF are they talking about?? What evidence did he leave in that building? This is the only thing that really bugged me. Those lines were used for dramatic effect, not because they made any contextual sense. If I dwell on it too much, it will ruin the whole ep for me. So, on to better things... ^_^ Similarly, there were three instances that had me blowing soda out of my nose (excellent for clearing your sinuses). I'll arrange them in countdown fashion. #3 Donnie: What's going on? Splinter: belch And, why do I taste raw hot dogs? #2 Serling: Someday, you must show me how you manage to tune them out. Splinter: My meditation grants me serenity, but earplugs don't hurt either. #1 Donnie: Everybody, stay back. Mi'kanabo: (Growls and bats Donnie across the room) Donnie: (Nonchalantly) Yeah. This is a safe distance. The comedy was a much stronger influence than the nit-picks. So, I give this ep four and a quarter Famous Jay's hot dogs out of five. If they continue getting better, I'll have to reconsider getting the DVD in February. It still depends on things like bonus features or when we'll get an American DVD release of The Lost Season (since I refuse to get FF first), etc. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

11-25-2006, 09:09 AM	#21
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	Not a bad episode and thankfully, Splinter finally acted like Splinter. I must say that Fast Forward is finally starting to grow on me. It's not the 2k3 series, but it isn't the complete garbage I'd thought it be either.

11-25-2006, 10:38 AM	#23
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,687	Surprising, I thought the episode was much weaker than the previous couple of weeks. Much more routine too, meh. The previous episodes of FF seemed to be building up to something more exciting, but this one just wasn't as good.

11-25-2006, 12:31 PM	#26
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	This was the first episode were Splinter actually seemed mostly in character, with mediation, compassion for his Sons, and not setting around looking stupid with his soaps. Hopefully this trend will continue.

11-25-2006, 12:55 PM	#28
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I missed it too...actually to be honest, i knew i was missing it but didnt have the urge to go turn it on...i was half-busy you could say. Anyone see any clips from the dark turtles episode? Hows it look?

11-25-2006, 06:17 PM	#33
Shadow Wolf75 Random Punk Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 26	Yeah, was a decent episode. For a while there I was almost thinking it was gonna be a two-parter, what with everybody but Raph getting turned into a drone. The sunlight was a bit of a copout, but it sorta goes with Sho'kanabo more or less being a living shadow, it's the whole light versus dark thing. I feel sorry for Serling, though. The poor guy always ends up getting damaged and then everyone else just leaves him there to fend for himself! Yeah, I know they had important stuff to do, but Don or Cody could've took a minute to do some field repairs or something. I dunno, I just don't like characters getting neglected by their so called friends . . .

11-26-2006, 01:08 PM	#35
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	Average episode, but least the jokes made up for that. I like how they mentioned that cloning is already a common thing in 2105. The owner of Jays is the clone of the original owner. And I laugh when the turtles are enjoying original Hot Dogs, since these past few episodes kept stating that there's less fast food in 2105. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

11-26-2006, 02:11 PM	#36
Aska_Badoura Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 485	This month has been insane... haven't been able to watch Turtles when I normally do... didn't get to see the one from two weeks ago till that Friday, and then the electricity went out when I tried to tape the one from last week, so I didn't get it... or so I thought. I popped in my tape to watch yesterday's ep, only to find that it did get last week's ep (and I don't know how, since the lights did go out before it aired)! Last week I'd figured it wasn't worth checking the tape, cuz it would only disappoint me... but there it was, so I saw two eps today.. ah, the Monks from the Jammerhead ep cracked me up.. the Force, sheesh. And seeing the pic of April and Casey was sniffly. I miss them. Yesterday's ep was interesting... I thought a bit of Donny's mutation at the end of Season 4, and a little of Leatherhead's dreamscape Turtles. I thought they should have made it a little more clear that the sunlight only kills the seedling Konabo... Sh'okanabo himself had no problem with sunlight. And it also seemed to be direct sunlight, rather than filtered and/or reflected light, but that didn't necessarily come across well, either. Eh, it was still fun. LOL, Mike was the one carrying the pretty girl this time, instead of Don. I dunno why I notice these things... The burping... eh, the new environment is encouraging bad habits? I'd say "poor Serling", but I think that's a given by now. But part of what makes him so charming is that he takes it all in stride. He hasn't run down the street screaming yet. __________________ The Venus Project LONG in need of an update, but still out there, if you want a look. 'Geek' pic by Allie

11-26-2006, 03:24 PM	#37
Nano Random Punk Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 21	Freaks Come Out at Night I thought this was a good episode until they realized sunlight would solve the problem. I was really hoping for a 2 parter where Raph is on his own trying to figure out what to do, and right before the last commercial it looked like that was going to happen. The jokes were pretty funny in this one. I thought though this seemed too similar to the body jacker episode where some entity takes over the Turtles body. The show displays more promise with each episode, but I may lose interest in it before they get to the good episodes.

11-28-2006, 09:34 AM	#39
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	Hmm...It kind of surprising that past episodes have gotten a lot more discussion than this one. As in my opinion it was definitely one of the best FF with the exception of the rushed ending. I guess people just really do love to hate fast forward and have absolutely nothing to say when they realize that atleast a part of them enjoyed it.