The Death of Cartridge Collecting - Page 2

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-19-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPliggins

which game was this? I noticed when I downloaded Zelda: A Link to the Past, there were some slowdowns which seem to have now disappeared.

i dunno but this is good for people to hear becasuse it's good nintendo is releasing updates for the virtual console games.

Jed · 02-20-2007, 01:13 PM

It doesn't update automatically anyway so if you didn't update it yourself then it's not updated. Over here we got a patch for Mario Kart 64 and some other game (not bothered turning on my Wii to find out) and you hafta go in to the game's page as if you were downloading it for the first time but you click 'update' instead of 'download'.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-20-2007, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jed

It doesn't update automatically anyway so if you didn't update it yourself then it's not updated. Over here we got a patch for Mario Kart 64 and some other game (not bothered turning on my Wii to find out) and you hafta go in to the game's page as if you were downloading it for the first time but you click 'update' instead of 'download'.

still it's optional.

I'm just happy patches are avialable.

better htan nothing.. shows nintendo will do anything to keep you wanting more virtual console. as long as we keep downloading em and supporting em, nintendo will behappy to help us.

Jed · 02-20-2007, 06:51 PM

What're you even talking about? I said it's optional cause the guy above thought his might have updated overnight or something. What makes you think anyone would complain about a game being patched to fix it?

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-21-2007, 12:38 AM

Nevermind then.

I misunderstood.

Anyways, which video game system cartridge was the most expensive to create?
I think i heard the nintendo 64 was.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 02-21-2007, 02:33 AM

It was leaked a long time ago that Nintendo will eventually offer "new" old-school controllers for all the old systems available on the VC. I've seen pictures of the prototypes. They were dead on, flaws included. The Sega one was especially remarkable, because Nintendo will be manufacturing them. Weird as hell.

**Krang** · 02-21-2007, 03:07 AM

Sounds interesting, I'm looking forward to that. Will the Genesis-like controller have 3 or 6 buttons? I hope it will be 6, because some games (like Streets of Rage 3) benefit from the extra buttons, and others (like Eternal Champions) are pretty much unplayable without them.

Jed · 02-21-2007, 09:01 AM

Have you got any pics of the prototypes, I'm feeling too lazy to look through Google?

Peanut · 02-21-2007, 09:26 AM

Some company already released connectors that allow you to use all the old controllers directly with your Wii. You just plug it into the Gamecube controller port, then plug your old controller into the connector.

*Ecto Jedi* · 02-21-2007, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Some company already released connectors that allow you to use all the old controllers directly with your Wii. You just plug it into the Gamecube controller port, then plug in your old controller into the connector.

Now that's pretty damn cool. Though I wonder if the new "old" controllers will have any special features/designs/colours?

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-21-2007, 06:18 PM

whe the! So I can use my old nes and snes controller?

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-21-2007, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Some company already released connectors that allow you to use all the old controllers directly with your Wii. You just plug it into the Gamecube controller port, then plug your old controller into the connector.

You happen to know the name?

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-21-2007, 06:59 PM

http://www.omgwtfbbq.com/

*Ecto Jedi* · 02-21-2007, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny

http://www.omgwtfbbq.com/

Uhh...What's this?

Peanut · 02-21-2007, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Snackpants

You happen to know the name?

http://www.retrousb.com/index.html

They've got NES and SNES already for sale, and apparently they're working on the rest.

And I probably should have mentioned that there's a different connector for each controller. The Classic controller works just as fine as far as I'm concerned.

**GK Punk** · 02-21-2007, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Krang

Hmm, my Genesis and some of the games I have for it are around 13 years old and still work great. I guess some people have better luck than others with how long their games and related equipment last. While I agree with you that discs generally have a longer life span than cartridges, I personally won't be packing up my carts anytime soon in favor of technology like the Virtual Console and classic game compilations for several reasons.

First, you generally aren't able to use the same controller that the game was designed for. In most cases, the button layouts are different, which could be distracting and could lead to awkward hand placement.

Second, while the most popular games get attention, the lesser-known titles are usually forgotten. As much as I love the classic Sonic and Mario series, I am also a fan of games like Blades of Vengeance, Soldiers of Fortune, and Tempo, none of which will probably ever be in a compilation or on the VC.

Third, the accuracy of emulation varies greatly. I've seen compilations that have had near-perfect emulation, but others aren't quite right, which changes the overall feel of the game. I haven't tried the VC yet, but I hope that it has accurate enough emulation to not be a distraction.

So while I appreciate the attempts to keep classic games around, I still think the original consoles and cartridges have a purpose as well.

Yeah, I don't ever expect to see some of my old favorites such as the Valis series, ever again. I tracked down every last game made in that series for each console just to ensure I'd always be able to have that.

*Mr. Snackpants* · 02-21-2007, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

http://www.retrousb.com/index.html

They've got NES and SNES already for sale, and apparently they're working on the rest.

And I probably should have mentioned that there's a different connector for each controller. The Classic controller works just as fine as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks for the link. I also like the classic controller very much. I'll probably end up getting these at some point, just because it would be cool.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 02-21-2007, 09:02 PM

On the subject of roms, I really fail to see what the big deal is (I know the way things are, so I of course am not going to talk sites or anything). I think the RIAA goes too far with it. Who really cares about the files for old arcade games that the company isn't making a dime off of anymore, or games that aren't going to be reproduced? I can understand protecting Nintendo's games, because they always redistribute them, but for most of the old stuff the company has made its money off of it years ago and odds are it won't be re-released. They should find a way to meet both sides and say, offer the games for download for a couple of bucks each to play on an emulator. Like what eventually happened with the music industry. Used older systems are being phased out of EBGames and Game Crazy now too.

With that said, when it comes to the older stuff I will get the games when reproduced on the new system if it is available. I've played countless hours of Mega Man Anniversary Collection.

Peanut · 02-21-2007, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LogicDonny

http://www.omgwtfbbq.com/

Missed this terrific comment!

~~LogicDonny~~ · 02-22-2007, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Missed this terrific comment!

actually i wrote in omgwtfbbq, then i typed in the address www.omgwtfbbq.com and then boom the rest followed. i laughed.

come on you had to see that was awesome.

02-20-2007, 01:13 PM	#22
Jed Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 956	It doesn't update automatically anyway so if you didn't update it yourself then it's not updated. Over here we got a patch for Mario Kart 64 and some other game (not bothered turning on my Wii to find out) and you hafta go in to the game's page as if you were downloading it for the first time but you click 'update' instead of 'download'. __________________ I am Frank-Zappa-as-imagined-by-the-editor-of-a-famous-rock-&-roll-magazine. I am an anachronism who makes the ugliest music on the planet. I have no right to call myself a member of the human race. I am tasteless, untalented, pompous, arrogant, cruel, insensitive, vulgar and not a fun guy because I don't use drugs.

02-20-2007, 06:51 PM	#24
Jed Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 956	What're you even talking about? I said it's optional cause the guy above thought his might have updated overnight or something. What makes you think anyone would complain about a game being patched to fix it? __________________ I am Frank-Zappa-as-imagined-by-the-editor-of-a-famous-rock-&-roll-magazine. I am an anachronism who makes the ugliest music on the planet. I have no right to call myself a member of the human race. I am tasteless, untalented, pompous, arrogant, cruel, insensitive, vulgar and not a fun guy because I don't use drugs.

02-21-2007, 02:33 AM	#26
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	It was leaked a long time ago that Nintendo will eventually offer "new" old-school controllers for all the old systems available on the VC. I've seen pictures of the prototypes. They were dead on, flaws included. The Sega one was especially remarkable, because Nintendo will be manufacturing them. Weird as hell. __________________

02-21-2007, 03:07 AM	#27
Krang Admin and Sega Guru Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dimension X Posts: 3,755	Sounds interesting, I'm looking forward to that. Will the Genesis-like controller have 3 or 6 buttons? I hope it will be 6, because some games (like Streets of Rage 3) benefit from the extra buttons, and others (like Eternal Champions) are pretty much unplayable without them. __________________ "My motherboard's microchips are chomping at the... 'bit'. A little computer humor." --Krang, Welcome Back, Polarisoids

02-21-2007, 09:01 AM	#28
Jed Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 956	Have you got any pics of the prototypes, I'm feeling too lazy to look through Google? __________________ I am Frank-Zappa-as-imagined-by-the-editor-of-a-famous-rock-&-roll-magazine. I am an anachronism who makes the ugliest music on the planet. I have no right to call myself a member of the human race. I am tasteless, untalented, pompous, arrogant, cruel, insensitive, vulgar and not a fun guy because I don't use drugs.

02-21-2007, 12:38 AM	#25
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	Nevermind then. I misunderstood. Anyways, which video game system cartridge was the most expensive to create? I think i heard the nintendo 64 was.

02-21-2007, 09:26 AM	#29
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Some company already released connectors that allow you to use all the old controllers directly with your Wii. You just plug it into the Gamecube controller port, then plug your old controller into the connector.

02-21-2007, 06:18 PM	#31
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	whe the! So I can use my old nes and snes controller?

02-21-2007, 06:59 PM	#33
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	http://www.omgwtfbbq.com/

02-21-2007, 09:02 PM	#38
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	On the subject of roms, I really fail to see what the big deal is (I know the way things are, so I of course am not going to talk sites or anything). I think the RIAA goes too far with it. Who really cares about the files for old arcade games that the company isn't making a dime off of anymore, or games that aren't going to be reproduced? I can understand protecting Nintendo's games, because they always redistribute them, but for most of the old stuff the company has made its money off of it years ago and odds are it won't be re-released. They should find a way to meet both sides and say, offer the games for download for a couple of bucks each to play on an emulator. Like what eventually happened with the music industry. Used older systems are being phased out of EBGames and Game Crazy now too. With that said, when it comes to the older stuff I will get the games when reproduced on the new system if it is available. I've played countless hours of Mega Man Anniversary Collection.