WWE Wrestlers Suspended Over Doping Scandal - Page 2

*BubblyShell22* · 09-13-2007, 02:37 PM

Well, okay. Thanks for telling me that. I hope he stays clean.

*shuriken* · 09-13-2007, 06:56 PM

They should all stay clean. I mean there have been more drug related deaths recently in the WWE. I mean, Mr Perfect, Benoit and Eddie Guerrero all in the past 4 or five years. They (the wrestlers) should just make sure to take abreak once in a while. Like what HHH does. he does that like every year now.

**GK Punk** · 09-13-2007, 07:32 PM

I didn't realize having brain damage from multiple concussions and killing yourself counted as a drug related death. And yeah, of course they should stay clean. But I have to take issue with the phrase "Drug related deaths in the WWE" and here is why:

Most of these deaths are by people who haven't worked for the WWE in a long time. There's been a very small number of deaths of people who were under WWE Contract. Curt Hennig (Perfect) was fired long before his overdose.

Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Owen Hart, and Brian Pillman are the only WWE contracted workers that had died. Eddie was really the only one you can credit to drugs, however it wasn't an over dose. After his past of drug use, he devoloped heart disease that was un-diagnosed. Similar story with Pillman, but I haven't heard it was related to drugs. I know Eddie's was though. (just because Eddie was a hero of mine, I know a lot about him.)

Owen died from falling from the rafters in a freak accident, Benoit was suffering a form of dimentia, and we know what happened there.

I only bring this up because I don't feel it's fair to blame Vince or the WWE personally for this. These people live their own lives, and the WWE/Vince can't police what they do 24 hours a day, especially if they have no connection to the company. This recently happened when Crush died. The news was reporting him as WWE wrestler Crush. He hadn't been working for the WWE since probably 2001. And even then, it was only for about a month.
He was retired at the time of his death.

Well. That was a novel.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-14-2007, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuriken

Like what HHH does. he does that like every year now.

Triple H didnt take a break in 2006, and tore his quadrocep earlier this year and was forced on the shelf. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

**GK Punk** · 09-14-2007, 09:57 PM

source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the confirmed 30-day suspensions include Charlie Haas, Edge, Gregory Helms, John Morrison, William Regal, Mr. Kennedy, Umaga, Funaki, Chavo Guerrero.

Chris Masters was also suspended, but it is unclear at the moment whether his suspension was for 30 days or 60 days. In May 2006, he went to rehab for a painkiller problem. It is unknown if he actually failed a Wellness test, or if it was based on a company decision that he needed rehab for painkillers and they didn't count it as a strike against him.

Robert Huffman aka King Booker was also suspended. He is currently serving a 60-day suspension. The reason for the 60-day suspension is because it is believed that he recently failed a test in addition to receiving packages of steroids according to federal prosecutors, so that's two strikes against him. Booker quit the company upon being informed of his suspension. The company was hoping that he'd reconsider, but they were going under the impression that he was finished with the company.

Edge and Helms, both out of action due to injuries, will lose 30 days of their downside guarantee pay.

Matt · 09-15-2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shuriken

They should all stay clean. I mean there have been more drug related deaths recently in the WWE. I mean, Mr Perfect, Benoit and Eddie Guerrero all in the past 4 or five years. They (the wrestlers) should just make sure to take abreak once in a while. Like what HHH does. he does that like every year now.

The Undertaker takes breaks, though he ripped his bicep muscle a few months ago. He only wrestles on a part-time basis.

It is pretty frightening. Why would they do it? To put on an extra 10-15lbs? Maybe it's lazyness, they should train more if they want to become as big as they are. It doesn't set a good example to kids, or even other wrestlers coming through the ranks.

There's a good Simpsons' episode showing the effects of "Roid rage."

The Rock admitted he used steroids, but couldn't see the effects straight away, so he stopped using them. Although he only ever tried them once.

*BubblyShell22* · 09-17-2007, 07:34 AM

Shawn Michaels also used to use steroids but got clean, which is good. Yes, 'Taker takes breaks so his body won't be worn down so much. I applaud Vince for putting in the Wellness Program, even though he should've done it a long time ago. At least now he can keep tabs on what happens with his Superstars. It's because of the Wellness Program that they discovered MVP had a heart condition that could've been fatal.

09-13-2007, 06:56 PM	#22
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	They should all stay clean. I mean there have been more drug related deaths recently in the WWE. I mean, Mr Perfect, Benoit and Eddie Guerrero all in the past 4 or five years. They (the wrestlers) should just make sure to take abreak once in a while. Like what HHH does. he does that like every year now. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

09-13-2007, 02:37 PM	#21
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Well, okay. Thanks for telling me that. I hope he stays clean.

09-13-2007, 07:32 PM	#23
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I didn't realize having brain damage from multiple concussions and killing yourself counted as a drug related death. And yeah, of course they should stay clean. But I have to take issue with the phrase "Drug related deaths in the WWE" and here is why: Most of these deaths are by people who haven't worked for the WWE in a long time. There's been a very small number of deaths of people who were under WWE Contract. Curt Hennig (Perfect) was fired long before his overdose. Eddie Guerrero, Chris Benoit, Owen Hart, and Brian Pillman are the only WWE contracted workers that had died. Eddie was really the only one you can credit to drugs, however it wasn't an over dose. After his past of drug use, he devoloped heart disease that was un-diagnosed. Similar story with Pillman, but I haven't heard it was related to drugs. I know Eddie's was though. (just because Eddie was a hero of mine, I know a lot about him.) Owen died from falling from the rafters in a freak accident, Benoit was suffering a form of dimentia, and we know what happened there. I only bring this up because I don't feel it's fair to blame Vince or the WWE personally for this. These people live their own lives, and the WWE/Vince can't police what they do 24 hours a day, especially if they have no connection to the company. This recently happened when Crush died. The news was reporting him as WWE wrestler Crush. He hadn't been working for the WWE since probably 2001. And even then, it was only for about a month. He was retired at the time of his death. Well. That was a novel.

09-14-2007, 09:57 PM	#25
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, the confirmed 30-day suspensions include Charlie Haas, Edge, Gregory Helms, John Morrison, William Regal, Mr. Kennedy, Umaga, Funaki, Chavo Guerrero. Chris Masters was also suspended, but it is unclear at the moment whether his suspension was for 30 days or 60 days. In May 2006, he went to rehab for a painkiller problem. It is unknown if he actually failed a Wellness test, or if it was based on a company decision that he needed rehab for painkillers and they didn't count it as a strike against him. Robert Huffman aka King Booker was also suspended. He is currently serving a 60-day suspension. The reason for the 60-day suspension is because it is believed that he recently failed a test in addition to receiving packages of steroids according to federal prosecutors, so that's two strikes against him. Booker quit the company upon being informed of his suspension. The company was hoping that he'd reconsider, but they were going under the impression that he was finished with the company. Edge and Helms, both out of action due to injuries, will lose 30 days of their downside guarantee pay.

09-17-2007, 07:34 AM	#27
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Shawn Michaels also used to use steroids but got clean, which is good. Yes, 'Taker takes breaks so his body won't be worn down so much. I applaud Vince for putting in the Wellness Program, even though he should've done it a long time ago. At least now he can keep tabs on what happens with his Superstars. It's because of the Wellness Program that they discovered MVP had a heart condition that could've been fatal.