It was 10 years ago today....

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Wow, people not knowing who Princess Diana is, I don't care how young someone is, some people you should just know who they are from school or social activities, unless you're a hermit living under a rock. I wasn't around when Anna Sewell lived and died, but I at least knew who she was and what she stood for.

Anna...Sewell?

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by nahhan-

I was five, so if she was apparently just a princess/celeb whatever, why would it matter?

Then if it didn't matter to you, then why are you responding to something you know nothing about?

Princess Diana was a common girl who married into royalty. She used her connections to help out the poor countries, kind of what Anglina Jolie does. She may have questionable relationships, but she is at least trying to help out the orphans in third world countries. The reason why Princess Diana was made more of a hoopla over during her death compared to Mother Theresa is because she died so tragically and young. It was even more worse that the photagraphers that had ran her off the road were still taking pictures of her dying instead of trying to help out.

I wasn't even born when Elvis was alive and died, but yet I still know who he is. Again, if you never heard of Princess Diana, or Elvis or Paul McCartney or Mohamed Ali, you are living under a narrow minded rock.

Anna Sewell is the Author of Black Beauty. She was one of the first people to voice her opinion on cruelty to animals for fashion. She died shortly before her mother fought to get her work published, and now Black Beauty is one of the best classic works or literature of all time. Again people, broaden your minds beyond ipods and comic books.

Do any of you even know Steve Irwin is anymore, or did you all forget about him too?

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Anna Sewell is the Author of Black Beauty. She was one of the first people to voice her opinion on cruelty to animals for fashion. She died shortly before her mother fought to get her work published, and now Black Beauty is one of the best classic works or literature of all time. Again people, broaden your minds beyond ipods and comic books.

Sorry, but I don't read girlie books.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Anna Sewell is the Author of Black Beauty. She was one of the first people to voice her opinion on cruelty to animals for fashion. She died shortly before her mother fought to get her work published, and now Black Beauty is one of the best classic works or literature of all time. Again people, broaden your minds beyond ipods and comic books.

Do any of you even know Steve Irwin is anymore, or did you all forget about him too?

Oh man!! I LOVE Black Beauty!! One of my fave horse stories next to the Chincotegue books and the Black and Red Stallion books.

Of course I know who Steve Irwin is...heck Animal Planet's doing Croc Week in his honor all this week starting tonight with his movie.

As for Princess Diana. She wasn't a commoner who married into royalty! She was born into royalty (the house of Stuart)!! On her father's side (he was a Viscount and later an Earl) she's descended from King Charles II, King James II, Robert the Bruce, Vlad the Impaler, ect
Im honored to be distantly related to Princess Diana.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princes...#Royal_descent

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Do any of you even know Steve Irwin is anymore, or did you all forget about him too?

Rather mock him for being an indegnatious dickwad who endangered his children and ultimatley took himself from his family.

And if you honestly think the photographers contributed to Diana's death, you have no say on who to call "narrow minded"

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Rather mock him for being an indegnatious dickwad who endangered his children and ultimatley took himself from his family.

And if you honestly think the photographers contributed to Diana's death, you have no say on who to call "narrow minded"

I love you Zarius.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Rather mock him for being an indegnatious dickwad who endangered his children and ultimatley took himself from his family.

And if you honestly think the photographers contributed to Diana's death, you have no say on who to call "narrow minded"

No wonder why you have a warning on you!

The photographers did contribute to her death, they chased after her. If I had someone chasing me, I would sped like hell to get away from them. I wouldn't know what those people's true intentions were. They could've been hitman for all anyone knew. Unfortunately, as fate would have it, the car crashed into a wall. But instead of helping the people in the crash, the heartless photographers took photos of her dying, and even published them. To me, that's sickening with what they did.

ANd if I want to call out people for being narrow minded, who are you to say that I have no say on it, and better yet, what exactly can you do about it? Nothing but deal with my opinions that I think most of today's youth don't exactly go out of their way to broaden their minds and horizons.

Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

Yes, no and no, yes, great movie and was he the dude in Beverly Hills Ninja?

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

That's some high horse you're on, thinking you're better than people just because you can pull random people's (and a horse's...wow) names out your ass.

Do you know Earl Simmons? Curtis Jackson? Christopher Wallace? Marshall Mathers? How about Steve Rogers? Scott Summers? Ororo Munroe? Pietro Maximoff? Just because YOU know those people doesn't mean anything.

[Peanut]

Yo, Warhorse...people die, dude. Just because they were in the public spotlight doesn't mean f*ck all. Do you know the names of even four soldiers who fought in any of the World Wars? Because those people are a hell of a lot more important than Steve Irwin or Princess Diana, yet they're all f*cking forgotten about.

Who gives a sh*t who wrote a book, or sung popular songs?

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Yo, Warhorse...people die, dude. Just because they were in the public spotlight doesn't mean f*ck all. Do you know the names of even four soldiers who fought in any of the World Wars? Because those people are a hell of a lot more important than Steve Irwin or Princess Diana, yet they're all f*cking forgotten about.

Who gives a sh*t who wrote a book, or sung popular songs?

He makes a valid point. Glad you're back, Peanut.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Anyone recall who Buzz Aldrin is? What about Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay? The Wright Brothers? Sea Biscuit or Walter Farley?

Buzz Aldrin - Astronaut and Senator
Edmund Hillary - Climbed a mountain, Hillary Clinton was named after him
The Wright Brothers - Airplane dudes
Sea Biscuit - Loved the movie
Walter Farley - I have ALL the books in the Black Stallion series and even the movies (3 have been made, plus a tv series). Altho I know that Young Black Stallion was co-written by his son since he died before it could be published.

No clue who Tenzing Norgay is....

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Yo, Warhorse...people die, dude. Just because they were in the public spotlight doesn't mean f*ck all. Do you know the names of even four soldiers who fought in any of the World Wars? Because those people are a hell of a lot more important than Steve Irwin or Princess Diana, yet they're all f*cking forgotten about.

Who gives a sh*t who wrote a book, or sung popular songs?

Actually, almost my entire family was wiped out in World War 1. Only about 5out of 700 made it to the United States in one piece. The rest are lost in the concentration camps, or killed on the fields. I would loose another good portion of my family in Vietnam.

Some of the names lost in World War 2, 3/4 of the Keller and Kellerman family, 1/2 of the Barone family. All but 1 of the Kursinski family was wiped out. They were spies for the United States and Brittish Military, spying on the Germans. They were caught by Hitler's henchmen, and all except one girl, Bobshi Kursinski, were slaughtered.

In Vietnam, lost several uncles and countless cousins, mostly Barones, Eddingtons, and one Wilkes. One Barone was shot down in a helicopter, and would have severe brain damage for the rest of his life. I met him when I was 14, and since then, I have volunteered at the local VA hospital twice a week.

My family to this day is still a pretty die hard, firearm bearing miltary loving bunch. Heck, I have a cousin that is a girl flying helicopters for the Army in the Iraq right now. Jillian Pheonix to be exact. I have another cousin that is on an undeployed Battleship out in California.

But that aside, yes, I can name several soldiers, from World War 2 to now. Unfortunately, you would have never heard of them like you would know Jessica Lynch and Lori Piestewa, Mike Durant, Gary Gordan and Randy Shughart, just to name a few more known named soldiers.

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Buzz Aldrin - Astronaut and Senator
Edmund Hillary - Climbed a mountain, Hillary Clinton was named after him
The Wright Brothers - Airplane dudes
Sea Biscuit - Loved the movie
Walter Farley - I have ALL the books in the Black Stallion series and even the movies (3 have been made, plus a tv series). Altho I know that Young Black Stallion was co-written by his son since he died before it could be published.

No clue who Tenzing Norgay is....

Thanks for not being so nasty. Tenzing Norgay accompanied Edmund Hillary on his clib to Moutn Everest. I'm used to calling them both at the same time, that's all.

And I love Walter Farley's work. I would love it if they turned The Black Stallion mystery and The Island Stallion into a movie.

Sea Biscuit, I know is a movie now, but I'm a big horse fanantic and knew about him long before that. Did you know that the actor who rode Sea Biscuit in the match race is a real jockey, and rode the horse Winning Colors to her Kentucky Derby victory, the third filly ever to do so. I thought that was kind of a cute trivia.

Also, a bit of more trivia on Sea Biscuit, you know how the real jockey was Georgie Wolf (The Iceman) that is the same jockey Henry Daily is mentioning to Alec in the Black Stallion movie when he asked if Henry knew any famous or really good jockeys. Small world this is!

Originally Posted by TheCure

That's some high horse you're on, thinking you're better than people just because you can pull random people's (and a horse's...wow) names out your ass.

Do you know Earl Simmons? Curtis Jackson? Christopher Wallace? Marshall Mathers? How about Steve Rogers? Scott Summers? Ororo Munroe? Pietro Maximoff? Just because YOU know those people doesn't mean anything.

First four are rappers, I've got two albums from mister Slim Shady himself. Which Steve Rogers are you talking about, there are several, and the others are comic book characters. Not familiar with Pietro Maximoff, but Ororo is Storm and Scott is Cyclopse.
John Allerdyce is Pyro and Logan is Wolverine, in case you wanted to know.

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

First four are rappers, I've got two albums from mister Slim Shady himself. Which Steve Rogers are you talking about, there are several, and the others are comic book characters. Not familiar with Pietro Maximoff, but Ororo is Storm and Scott is Cyclopse.
John Allerdyce is Pyro and Logan is Wolverine, in case you wanted to know.

I think you're missing the point.

[Peanut]

Yeah, he completely missed it.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Also, a bit of more trivia on Sea Biscuit, you know how the real jockey was Georgie Wolf (The Iceman) that is the same jockey Henry Daily is mentioning to Alec in the Black Stallion movie when he asked if Henry knew any famous or really good jockeys. Small world this is!

Further Trivia on Seabiscuit (it was mentioned very briefly at the end of the movie). His grandsire was Man O' War!! Walter Farley wrote a book about him (so did William Shatner). His sire (Seabiscuit's) , Hard Tack, was in a Porky Pig cartoon.

Have u ever been to Chincotegue/Assateague?? I'd love to go there someday just to see the descendents of Misty (she was a real horse). Marguerite Henry is another of my fave horse authors (she died 10 years ago).

As for naming WWII soldiers... My father's father faught in WWII. He was on Normandy Beach on D. Day (I've since been to Normandy Beach). My mom's dad was in the Korean war.

Pietro Maximoff is Quicksilver. A son of Magneto.

[Warhorse]

SHE! I am a SHE! And no, I'm not missing the point. It's just I don't retort to being vicious on a forum. I find the lighter approach to be more appealing, especially when dealing with hot opinions.

I'm just a bit bewildered that some people aren't as informed in some things, that's all. Perhaps I take things for granted, and realize people just dont have the interest, or we are in a different time than we were 10 years ago. But still, 10 years ago is not that far off to forget something that was plastered on every news channel or every news paper. It's not my fault I remember this stuff, and I can't help voicing my shock that people jsut didn't know who someone was. And not once was I nasty about it, I thought I was pretty civilized about the whole thing! I jsut plastered up those random names to see if those individuals, some of them very important in our history, has slipped the minds of the modern age. Amazing what you could learn just by skimming your local newspaper once a day.

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Further Trivia on Seabiscuit (it was mentioned very briefly at the end of the movie). His grandsire was Man O' War!! Walter Farley wrote a book about him (so did William Shatner). His sire (Seabiscuit's) , Hard Tack, was in a Porky Pig cartoon.

Have u ever been to Chincotegue/Assateague?? I'd love to go there someday just to see the descendents of Misty (she was a real horse). Marguerite Henry is another of my fave horse authors (she died 10 years ago).

As for naming WWII soldiers... My father's father faught in WWII. He was on Normandy Beach on D. Day (I've since been to Normandy Beach). My mom's dad was in the Korean war.

Pietro Maximoff is Quicksilver. A son of Magneto.

War Admiral was son of Man O War, right! Funny how those things happen.

I have never been to Chincoteague, but I so want to go for Pony Penning Day thanks to Marguerite Henry's books. I personally loved her Sea Star, Orphan of Chincoteague the best.

Did your Grandfather survive Normandy Beach? (I get horrified jsut thinking what those soldiers went through to over take that beach.) How did you're mother's dad fare in the Korean war? That war I'm not as familiar with as WW and Vietnam.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

SHE! I am a SHE! And no, I'm not missing the point. It's just I don't retort to being vicious on a forum. I find the lighter approach to be more appealing, especially when dealing with hot opinions.

I'm just a bit bewildered that some people aren't as informed in some things, that's all. Perhaps I take things for granted, and realize people just dont have the interest, or we are in a different time than we were 10 years ago. But still, 10 years ago is not that far off to forget something that was plastered on every news channel or every news paper. It's not my fault I remember this stuff, and I can't help voicing my shock that people jsut didn't know who someone was. And not once was I nasty about it, I thought I was pretty civilized about the whole thing! I jsut plastered up those random names to see if those individuals, some of them very important in our history, has slipped the minds of the modern age. Amazing what you could learn just by skimming your local newspaper once a day.

What you have to realize is that not everyone is the same age as you. There are people here who were only 4 or 5 years old 10 years ago. The comings and goings of people like Princess Diana aren't things that greatly impacted world history, so younger kids aren't going to remember that stuff.

No one born in the next year and beyond is going to know who the hell Steve Irwin is, not unless they're introduced to him by someone else. See my point?

And I apologize for calling you a dude. A name like Warhorse tends cause one to lean in that direction.

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

War Admiral was son of Man O War, right! Funny how those things happen.

Did your Grandfather survive Normandy Beach? (I get horrified jsut thinking what those soldiers went through to over take that beach.) How did you're mother's dad fare in the Korean war? That war I'm not as familiar with as WW and Vietnam.

Man O War (who lived for 30 years) sired War Relic, Hard Tack, American Flag, Crusader, War Admiral, and Battleship.

Yep My grandpa survived Normandy beach (which stinks to high heaven at low tide cuz of all the rotting war stuff still there) My dad has all the medals he got. He died before I was born tho of a heart attack (complications from lung cancer). My other grandpa was in Korea during the war but never faught. But I have ancestors that have died in war. I had 2 that faught and died at the Battle of New Orleans in the war of 1812.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Man O War (who lived for 30 years) sired War Relic, Hard Tack, American Flag, Crusader, War Admiral, and Battleship.

Yep My grandpa survived Normandy beach (which stinks to high heaven at low tide cuz of all the rotting war stuff still there) My dad has all the medals he got. He died before I was born tho of a heart attack (complications from lung cancer). My other grandpa was in Korea during the war but never faught. But I have ancestors that have died in war. I had 2 that faught and died at the Battle of New Orleans in the war of 1812.

Wow, 1812, your family was here a long time. How long have they been here? I don't know anything past WW 1. My heritage was German, Polish and Italian, they opposed the communist control and paid a heavy price for it.

I couldn't even begin to imagine what it would be like to walk near Normandy. I get chills just passing graveyards in my city, my subconscience mind would be going beserk if I visited Normandy. They still have sunk boats and tanks still down in the waters, right?

War, just awful stuff. And I don't think it'll ever end. Probably get worse.

My mom's dad was part of the U.S. Navy, and his boat had left Pearl Harbor for San Diego the day before the attacks. Weird how that stuff works out.

PS. Aren't the great racing duel of 1978 related to Man O War, you know, Affirmed and Alydar (strange enough, the last American Triple Crown to be won would be the year I was born, maybe it's fate!

Originally Posted by Peanut

What you have to realize is that not everyone is the same age as you. There are people here who were only 4 or 5 years old 10 years ago. The comings and goings of people like Princess Diana aren't things that greatly impacted world history, so younger kids aren't going to remember that stuff.

No one born in the next year and beyond is going to know who the hell Steve Irwin is, not unless they're introduced to him by someone else. See my point?

And I apologize for calling you a dude. A name like Warhorse tends cause one to lean in that direction.

No problem about the dude part. It's not the first time, but I've been nicknamed Warhorse since I was 10, and I grew to like the name. I don't know where else to highlight on my profile I'm a chica!

Maybe I am the odd ball out after all. After I think about it, when I was ten, I was the only one who could name all of the Beatles, and knew their songs by heart, but that's just because my folks were Beatle fanantics! It's what I grew up with. But I honestly dont know anything about comics unless it was in a movie, which is probably why I dont know anything about Magneto's son, since he hasn't been introduced to the movies yet. So I don't know everything, and if you were to ask me a complex arithmetic problem, forget it, I'll look at you like a deer caught in the head lights! I admit it, I have poor mathematic skills, I'm sure kids today, in fact, I know kids today will run circles around me with their trigonometry knowledge.