Cartoon Network To Be Rebranded? - Page 2

*ZariusTwo* · 09-30-2007, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Not every cartoon is awesome, Captain Planet is not good.

Depends on the seasons, or if you're liberal or republican (though lefties have their own problems with the show). I hate the post-DIC stuff.

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I think you make this crap up sometimes.

Once again, it's people who are often full of narrow-minded crap that resort to this rubbish rather than understand the point I'm making, and pick apart only the basics of what I'm saying. Common sense should tell anyone that's not what I mean at all. You know what shows I'm talking about, the Terry Toons, the old-school Disney eras (even the 1980s and 1990s), Marvel Animation, DC etc

I'm not talking Dora The Explorer is an HBO-exclusive porno docusoap, I'm saying Phantom 2040 is an example of animation that caters beyond the limitations of the child demographic and enlightens both child and older audiences in contrast.

I dont see why people suddenly got it into their heads I was talking about Adventures of T-Rex-quality s*it, shows whose really hilarious around here...

*Spitfire* · 09-30-2007, 10:51 PM

I was never denying those points, but I see you say stuff like Billy And Mandy is that kind of show as well and I can't agree with you there. There's some series I can't see anything adult in what so ever other then a few nods.

Yes the era you mentioned was great but kids at that time weren't so fragile and there's no way series like that could be made now of days.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-30-2007, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

I was never denying those points, but I see you say stuff like Billy And Mandy is that kind of show as well and I can't agree with you there. There's some series I can't see anything adult in what so ever other then a few nods.

Then we'll have to disagree there. I dont watch "Grim" for Billy's behaviour, but primarily for Grim and his own troubles, he's the established victim of the series

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Yes the era you mentioned was great but kids at that time weren't so fragile and there's no way series like that could be made now of days.

I also disagree, and some content has proven that. The problem is that the networks stick them in ridiculous time slots whilst being able to "maintain quality standards" that they use in pitching syndication packages, or receive virtually no promotion at all over something a little more favoured because it's "all things"

*VaughnMichael* · 09-30-2007, 11:00 PM

hmmm not good....so does that mean they will be ditching all their toons?

*Spitfire* · 09-30-2007, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I also disagree, and some content has proven that. The problem is that the networks stick them in ridiculous time slots whilst being able to "maintain quality standards" that they use in pitching syndication packages, or receive virtually no promotion at all over something a little more favoured because it's "all things"

Well alright I mean what shows are as violent as oh say Batman TAS? I mean there's blood, there's actual guns that fire bullets, and there's some storylines in there that I don't think any kid would understand. The human torture mainly. I haven't seen series like that lately. I mean the new turtles series is the only thing that comes close and even that isn't that far back regressed. Got pretty gruesome for awhile like that monster who gets ripped in half in "Dragon's Rising" but noting like that.

Maybe there's some shows I haven't been watching, cause if there's something like that I'm missing I'd love to know really. I miss shows like that.

*ZariusTwo* · 09-30-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Maybe there's some shows I haven't been watching, cause if there's something like that I'm missing I'd love to know really. I miss shows like that.

I'd recommend some, but you seem to have an eye on current products already to criticise "Grim", how about a list first of what you follow complete with your own views thus far and I can go from there...

*Spitfire* · 09-30-2007, 11:49 PM

Sadly there's no current series I follow, mainly because I don't have cable, I hardly watch TV.

Shows I liked that have ended are
Batman TAS, Batman Beyond, The Tick, The Maxx, Spawn. I haven't seen them in years but when I was a kid I loved X-men, Spider-man, The Hulk, Iron Man, and Silver Surfer.

Really there's not alot of shows I follow but I'm very picky about what I watch.

*Drtooth* · 10-01-2007, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Then we'll have to disagree there. I dont watch "Grim" for Billy's behaviour, but primarily for Grim and his own troubles, he's the established victim of the series

You know, I had trouble getting into it myself, but the episode where everyone becomes white rap posers, and Grim keeps telling them that they forgot about the old School... that won the show for me. And the Christmas special is the WEIRDEST thing I've ever seen in my life. I really disagree that it's "goth" (and In all honesty, I think Mandy is inteded as a send up of goth girls), and I just find it a fresh and delightfully silly cartoon.

That said, I also think that KND and Grim were the last bastions of greatness the network had. It's not that I don't like Ben 10, myself... I just can't get into it. I don't have cable so I only saw a couple episodes.

It seems that CN's draw is Ben 10, Fosters, Most of the Toonami line up and most of the AS line up. I think they shouldn't be too hasty until they see if Out of Jimmy's Peabrain is a success or not. I mean, seriously, I remeber liking home Alone as a kid, but these shows are rediculous.... Disney's Zach and Cody? it's like Home Alone 2 without Tim Curry, Daniel Stern, and Joe Pesci.

If I wanted to watch any of the stuff on Disney, I'd buy a Saved By the Bell box set, and watch it with the sound down listening to an old CD of really bad failed 1990's Pop Stars... all the while pounding my head with a hammer until 3/4 of my braincells die off. Same effect. These shows are made for kids, and guess what our age bracket is supposed to watch? CSI and court shows. There's little alternative (not online) for people that think "adult" tv (as if AFV and Just for Laughs are adult shows) is bullcrap anymore.

I recall a day with Animaniacs and such where the writing was so sharp, older kids and even adults thought it was brilliant. that's the key. You can make a cartoon series that appeals to BOTH kids and adults. But now it's just all about trying to grab ratings from a company that suckles too much from the teat of retarded tweenage fan girldom. What kind of girls watch this? Why, this kind of course!

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Sadly there's no current series I follow, mainly because I don't have cable, I hardly watch TV.

Exactly. Me too. There are no options for us Cable deprived people (and with this happening to CN, I'm not sure I wanna). The same judge shows still smell up daytime TV with the rotten corpse of a million Maury Povich episodes. Daytime WB gives us 2 hours of tweenage family crap with it's cancelled sh**coms Reba and What i Dislike about you...

*BubblyShell22* · 10-01-2007, 01:56 PM

About the only show I watch on CN these days is Code Lyoko. To me, that show's pretty cool with the mix of regular animation and CGI. However, that's the only show that's grabbed my interest. If that show goes off the air, then I won't be watching CN at all.

*ToTheNines* · 10-01-2007, 03:22 PM

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I'm not into the "Raph's dark internal pain" concept that they have today.

Not to be mean dude, but that statement really shows that you know nothing of the current cartoon.

愛 · 10-01-2007, 04:05 PM

I do know the "current" cartoon. I was making a joke. Thanks for being mean, though.

*Dr. Doom* · 10-01-2007, 04:05 PM

lol

Don't mind Rhen.

愛 · 10-01-2007, 04:06 PM

You're also kinda gay, Doom. Don't bother me.

*Dr. Doom* · 10-01-2007, 04:09 PM

Brilliantly spoken. Like Shakespeare. What're you, 14?

愛 · 10-01-2007, 04:10 PM

You're the one who had to edit their post because you resorted to calling me "dumb." Are you 11?

*Dr. Doom* · 10-01-2007, 04:19 PM

I edited it, didn't I!?

*Spike Spiegel* · 10-05-2007, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

I recall a day with Animaniacs and such where the writing was so sharp, older kids and even adults thought it was brilliant. that's the key. You can make a cartoon series that appeals to BOTH kids and adults. But now it's just all about trying to grab ratings from a company that suckles too much from the teat of retarded tweenage fan girldom.

There are no options for us Cable deprived people (and with this happening to CN, I'm not sure I wanna). The same judge shows still smell up daytime TV with the rotten corpse of a million Maury Povich episodes. Daytime WB gives us 2 hours of tweenage family crap with it's cancelled sh**coms Reba and What i Dislike about you...

I just don't understand it myself. If it wasn't broken why try to fix it? My dad, who was like 40 or so at the time, ADORED those cartoons. He thought Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, and Dexter were funny as hell. He was watching most everything CN had...even a few SpongeBob episodes on Nick. I'm glad he didn't live to see the gutter trash that is on our TVs now.

*Drtooth* · 10-06-2007, 09:50 PM

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I just don't understand it myself. If it wasn't broken why try to fix it?

Because of the misconception that there's money to be had. Nothing else.

Ra · 10-07-2007, 03:15 AM

...again with the fighting over cartoons? As much as I love them...I don't think that they are really worth fighting for like this...

Honestly, I don't know what to make of all of this. Just...sit back and watch, I guess. Nothing more than you can really do... *sighs*

*Drtooth* · 10-07-2007, 09:51 AM

Hey. it's not so much fighting for cartoons as fighting against Uninspired tween garbage that would make Saved by The Bell Blush...

09-30-2007, 10:51 PM	#22
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I was never denying those points, but I see you say stuff like Billy And Mandy is that kind of show as well and I can't agree with you there. There's some series I can't see anything adult in what so ever other then a few nods. Yes the era you mentioned was great but kids at that time weren't so fragile and there's no way series like that could be made now of days. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

09-30-2007, 11:49 PM	#27
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Sadly there's no current series I follow, mainly because I don't have cable, I hardly watch TV. Shows I liked that have ended are Batman TAS, Batman Beyond, The Tick, The Maxx, Spawn. I haven't seen them in years but when I was a kid I loved X-men, Spider-man, The Hulk, Iron Man, and Silver Surfer. Really there's not alot of shows I follow but I'm very picky about what I watch. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

10-01-2007, 04:05 PM	#32
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	lol Don't mind Rhen. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

10-01-2007, 04:09 PM	#34
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Brilliantly spoken. Like Shakespeare. What're you, 14? __________________ I love you, Pickle.

10-01-2007, 04:19 PM	#36
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I edited it, didn't I!? __________________ I love you, Pickle.

09-30-2007, 11:00 PM	#24
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	hmmm not good....so does that mean they will be ditching all their toons?

10-01-2007, 01:56 PM	#29
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	About the only show I watch on CN these days is Code Lyoko. To me, that show's pretty cool with the mix of regular animation and CGI. However, that's the only show that's grabbed my interest. If that show goes off the air, then I won't be watching CN at all.

10-01-2007, 04:05 PM	#31
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	I do know the "current" cartoon. I was making a joke. Thanks for being mean, though.

10-01-2007, 04:06 PM	#33
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	You're also kinda gay, Doom. Don't bother me.

10-01-2007, 04:10 PM	#35
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	You're the one who had to edit their post because you resorted to calling me "dumb." Are you 11?

10-07-2007, 03:15 AM	#39
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	...again with the fighting over cartoons? As much as I love them...I don't think that they are really worth fighting for like this... Honestly, I don't know what to make of all of this. Just...sit back and watch, I guess. Nothing more than you can really do... sighs __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

10-07-2007, 09:51 AM	#40
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Hey. it's not so much fighting for cartoons as fighting against Uninspired tween garbage that would make Saved by The Bell Blush... __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]