DNA Is Thicker Than Water (new ep)

[CyberCubed]

And yet...since the movie FF's ratings have been mostly the highest on the block. Do you guys even look at the rating reports?

Aside from Dinosaur King which has turned out to be a surprise hit for 4kids, TMNT has been doing better than everything else on their block...with reruns even.

Some stuff stolen from Toonzone:

Ratings for September 22:

FOX (4Kids TV) 1.2/6 Avg. (8a-12n)
Winx Club 0.6/4
Yu-Gi-Oh GX 0.8/4
Chaotic 1.5/6
Mutant Ninja Turtles Fast Forward 1.6/6
Mutant Ninja Turtles Fast Forward 1.6/7
Dinosaur King 1.5/6
Viva Pinata 1.2/5
Sonic X 0.9/4

Ratings for September 29, 2007

Adrenaline Project 0.4
Yu-Gi-Oh GX 0.7
Chaotic 1.2
Mutant Ninja Turtles Fast Forward 1.3
Mutant Ninja Turtles Fast Forward 1.5
Dinosaur King 1.6
Viva Pinata 1.1
Sonic X 1.1


Why is TMNT: FF still one of the highest rated shows on 4kids block then? I don't think these are much lower than what Season 4 was getting last year.

[VaughnMichael]

because it's not as bad as everyone on here made it out to be, I swear to god that half the people lied about what they thought of things simply because they thought if they did that without even seeing the episodes yet that they with their complaints would be the saving grace of the series.
Yeah look how well all that nagging and complaining worked out..Fast Forward is now cancled, and look at the ideas being tossed around that are tuns worse than this stuff at least Fast forward still used things from 2k3.
Fast Forward was not the coolest or best thing ever but it most def. was not the worst thing ever or as bad as everyone makes it out to be and I really think they should have said screw it and did the next season while they pull their heads out of their @sses and figure out what they're going to do with the turtles.

[Scandia]

FF still is one of their two top rated shows.

Long live TMNT!!!

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by clockstomper

In the end, the toyline failed, the ratings failed and yet Playmates won't change their faulty ideas (look at the new Alien Hunters line, which is doomed to rot on the shelves.) Fan complaints had nothing to do with FF's faiilure, it drove away casual viewers who thought the franchise sold out and became another generic 'comedy' toon. By the time the improvement came it was deemed a failure and had fallen under the radar and burned off like a cancelled network show.

Originally Posted by gobo

While fan-outrage did worsen things a bit, you've got the rest completely right. Few people are going to watch a show that almost everyone says is lame.

Wow you two are both...you know what I'm not even going to insult you but what I will do it make you look like idiots.

For one the FF toys sold like crazy, the series had higher ratings then 2K3 when it was at the peak*By peak I mean best season, 4*, what you all liked. Deny it all you want kids loved this show. The only reason it's being canned is because people who work for Mirage, and I bet Laird himself read this message board and see you cry babies complaining about it.

Well enjoy Baby Turtles Diaper Hour and World Of TMNT Craft because that's what we're getting now because you all exaggerated how bad the faults of this show were and constantly flamed anyone who liked the series to the point where half the people who did like it were afraid to say anything.

Good going

[gobo]

Do as you wish, ass-hole. I didn't insult your precious Fast Forward, but you just don't seem to care. You think everyone's always picking on you, so the solution is to pick on them first, right? Grow up!

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by gobo

Do as you wish, ass-hole. I didn't insult your precious Fast Forward

Originally Posted by gobo

Few people are going to watch a show that almost everyone says is lame.

You've complained as much as everyone else. You can choose not to own up to it if you please. That post was directed at clockstomper*Wtf kinda name is that anyways?* But I added you because of that comment you made.

Yeah I'm an asshole, people on here are sorta used to that by now. I don't need to assume anyones picking on me people on here were dicks to me for the longest time and I dealt with it. Now I'm lashing back and whoever gets in my way well tough cookies cause I'm tired of it. Some good people well get a reaming to you can blame the people who pissed me off in the first place.

I used to go here to have fun, now I go here to vent. Kinda sad isn't it? So I need to grow up, hell there's something we can all improve on.

[gobo]

If you think that line was an insult towards Fast Forward, you're out of your mind. What does my signature indicate? Or do you even know how to read between the lines like that?

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by gobo

If you think that line was an insult towards Fast Forward, you're out of your mind. What does my signature indicate? Or do you even know how to read between the lines like that?

Why would I read your sig, or care to? So I had you pinned wrong sorry. I said in my post I don't care who gets in my way good person or not. If this place got civil again I think I would be alot nicer.

[gobo]

And, I don't care to let people take advantage of me. Stupid little habit I have. Out of curiosity, what is your idea of civil and where is this forum not meeting your expectations?

[Spitfire]

Honestly this place has become a rabid cesspool of constant whining and bitching. People seem to hate any idea that isn't 2K3 more and more.

Don't even touch the general discussion area, it should be removed. You can't even nicely say what you like in that section without getting ripped to pieces by the savages in there. Even the friends tear into each other there. That's mostly why I'm an ass here. I used to contain it within general but lately I've just been going off wherever I see fit.

Not the best choice, I should go back to listening to angry music when I'm upset instead. Which I'm doing right now, guess it really does pacify me. Honestly in real life I'm a very chill guy who never loses his cool. Here I can fly off the handle and it's just online so there's no hurt feelings. I guess that's why I'm okay with being a dick here.

[Jo Dawn]

First off, let's all cool our jets a bit, hmm?

Here I can fly off the handle and it's just online so there's no hurt feelings. I guess that's why I'm okay with being a dick here.

Well, the problem is that obviously there ARE hurt feelings, or people wouldn't be defensive. They're not just always reacting that way because they're overreacting. Maybe they're hurt. So let's try calming it down and not ADDING to it.

Originally Posted by gobo

Few people are going to watch a show that almost everyone says is lame.

Well, I dunno about that. I rarely let anyone's opinion stop me from watching something. And, really... Um... I dunno. I've ever brought up TMNT to anyone, really... as not many people I know watch it. I do work with the kids, and they HATE FF. And the toys never ever sold here. They finally clearance them,and when they STILL didnt sell... I dunno what they did with them, haha. Threw them away? But that's old news.

Anyhow, let's discuss without being demeaning, shall we? Thanks.

[VaughnMichael]

Yeah people in the general public seem to hate the new turtles all together not just Fast Foward though so I'm thinking you're comments are a bit biased.
Nice to see you well enough to be modding again though.

[Krang]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

The only reason it's being canned is because people who work for Mirage, and I bet Laird himself read this message board and see you cry babies complaining about it.

Oh, give me a break. If the series was doing great and making all kinds of money, they wouldn't cancel it just because a few people on a message board complained about it. That makes no sense whatsoever from a business standpoint, not to mention that it's just plain paranoid and ridiculous.

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

I'm lashing back and whoever gets in my way well tough cookies cause I'm tired of it. Some good people well get a reaming to you can blame the people who pissed me off in the first place.

So you think people who never said anything rude to you deserve to be attacked just for posting on the same message board as the few people who did? How is that fair? And how is that helping make things better?

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

If this place got civil again I think I would be alot nicer.

You won't be nicer until the forums get more civil, but the forums can't get more civil because you won't be nicer (see below). Catch-22.

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Honestly this place has become a rabid cesspool of constant whining and bitching. People seem to hate any idea that isn't 2K3 more and more.

I've seen alot more whining and negativity from you in the last week or so than from the rest of the people on the forums combined. This is the second time I've had to call you out for your bad attitude in just a few days. Learn to control yourself, please.

Don't even touch the general discussion area, it should be removed. You can't even nicely say what you like in that section without getting ripped to pieces by the savages in there.

Since this happens so often according to you, I'm sure you can easily provide me 3 examples from each subforum of General Discussion of people being "ripped to pieces" after simply stating their opinions within the last week. Let's hear them.

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Well, the problem is that obviously there ARE hurt feelings, or people wouldn't be defensive. They're not just always reacting that way because they're overreacting. Maybe they're hurt. So let's try calming it down and not ADDING to it.

Well said, thank you.

[odupianist]

Guys, guys! Two words that'll solve all of our problems... time share!

(Krang, I love how all of a sudden you pop out of nowhere to end whatever fighting has occurred, yet I barely see you post about anything in the threads, you lurker you lol)

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Come now, children, let's all play nicely...

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Krang

Oh, give me a break. If the series was doing great and making all kinds of money, they wouldn't cancel it just because a few people on a message board complained about it. That makes no sense whatsoever from a business standpoint, not to mention that it's just plain paranoid and ridiculous.

Our negative opinions had Volume 4 put on a longer hiatus then planned I'm seriously not surprised.

I've seen alot more whining and negativity from you in the last week or so than from the rest of the people on the forums combined. This is the second time I've had to call you out for your bad attitude in just a few days. Learn to control yourself, please.

Actually I was doing just fine on the subject till you brought it back up. Even talked to Gobo in some PMs.

Since this happens so often according to you, I'm sure you can easily provide me 3 examples from each subforum of General Discussion of people being "ripped to pieces" after simply stating their opinions within the last week. Let's hear them.

I shouldn't have to just read the video game section, heck sometimes the movie section gets pretty bad to but the game section is the worst. Oh I shouldn't be mentioning that though. Last time someone said alot of arguments happened there they got attacked for it.

I already agreed to be nicer on here, honestly bringing this up now is like throwing stones at a monster who decided to stop attacking people.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Krang

Oh, give me a break. If the series was doing great and making all kinds of money, they wouldn't cancel it just because a few people on a message board complained about it. That makes no sense whatsoever from a business standpoint, not to mention that it's just plain paranoid and ridiculous.

Actually Krang It is true there are tuns of battles going on behind our backs with this show that half the board doesn't know a thing about between Peter Laird and the other involved they just can't come to terms with what they want from this show.
And the fans comments affect things more than you know.

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Our negative opinions had Volume 4 put on a longer hiatus then planned I'm seriously not surprised.

Every time we are negative about volume 4 Jim Lawson cries
Now let us praise the Laird!

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Actually I was doing just fine on the subject till you brought it back up. Even talked to Gobo in some PMs.

And, I told you that I won't stand for injustice. You disrespecting Krang in his own house is childish and quite risky. He's the one with the authority around here, so you should be thanking your lucky stars that he's benevolent enough to let it slide. Perhaps you've gained respect for me, but I've lost respect for you.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by gobo

And, I told you that I won't stand for injustice. You disrespecting Krang in his own house is childish and quite risky. He's the one with the authority around here, so you should be thanking your lucky stars that he's benevolent enough to let it slide. Perhaps you've gained respect for me, but I've lost respect for you.

How am I disrespecting him? Just because you don't kiss someone's ass doesn't mean you don't respect someone. I respect Krang just fine, I even decided to drop the whole thing but you people seem stuck on bringing it up.

Really it's over, end it. I was being an ass I'll stop.

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

Yeah pe[/ople in the general public seem to hate the new turtles all together not just Fast Foward though so I'm thinking you're comments are a bit biased.

Not really... Around here they really got into it. Little kids were again buying the backpacks and watching it and pretending to be them. *shrugs* Maybe that was just here, maybe not. All I know is how it was; people brought them up to me working in stores and everything. It was pretty popular here again.

Nice to see you well enough to be modding again though.

Bah, you just wanna debate. And actually, I don't. Man, I feel awful, heh. But thanks.