Dumbledore comes out of wizard closet - Page 2

**Jester** · 10-21-2007, 07:22 PM

Anyone else wonder if this is a PC attempt to add diversity to a series that has been occationally panned for it's lack there of?

Peanut · 10-21-2007, 07:29 PM

No. Not in the least, because 10 years from now when kids start reading Harry Potter, there won't be any mention of Dumbledore's sexuality at all.

Anyone who thinks that JK was saying this for any other reason than to just answer the question is kidding themselves. She wasn't trying to garner more interested in the series, she CLEARLY wasn't trying to make the characters in the book more diverse, she wasn't doing anything besides answering the question truthfully.

*Masked Ninja* · 10-22-2007, 02:31 AM

I guess my question is "why?"

I mean, if it wasn't significant enough to put in the actual book, why bother?

*Roseangelo* · 10-22-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja

I guess my question is "why?"

I mean, if it wasn't significant enough to put in the actual book, why bother?

I think Peanut's got the right answer. She was just answering the question truthfully. Why wasn't it mentioned in the book? Because it wasn't relevant to the story. Can a character only be gay if it's part of the story? I would say not.

**Jester** · 10-22-2007, 07:49 AM

I can agree with that, but you thinkl there'd be some, even very small refrences to it. But then again, I haven't read all of the books, so who am I to say there weren't.

*Drtooth* · 10-22-2007, 08:37 AM

Good thing we have this "news" report of a fictional character's supposed oreintation that wasn't even implied. Really isn't significant at all in the least.

**Barkworm** · 10-22-2007, 12:17 PM

This isn't the news section, it's the "books" section and we have many HP fans around. That's significant enough.

*Mecha Cow* · 10-22-2007, 12:19 PM

Technically, 'Dumbledore is gay' isn't a direct answer to the question, but whatever. Either way, it doesn't matter.

**Jester** · 10-22-2007, 01:40 PM

Dumbledore is just a very happy wizard.

*KROW* · 10-22-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by a_big_apple

Thanks, now I have images of Gandalf/Dumbledore crossover fanfiction in my head.

One reason why I didn't go that route.

Lady R. Santi · 10-22-2007, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I can agree with that, but you thinkl there'd be some, even very small refrences to it. But then again, I haven't read all of the books, so who am I to say there weren't.

I think that Dumbledore's intense friendship with Grindelwald was plenty reference. I couldn't help but note when I read the book that it seemed almost obsessive. They were inseparable, the two of them. Now, him being gay never crossed my mind but in context, with this knowledge, I think that *is* the reference. Again, not that it's truly important after the fact, but it does add another piece to her richly detailed universe and serves to make the friendship and breaking of, even more poignant.

But it makes me wonder if Grindelwald was the same...seeing as how he made reference to Hitler.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-22-2007, 05:20 PM

Yeah, I've heard about this, but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't change my perspective of Dumbledore in the least. To me, he'll always be the wise wizard who was Harry's mentor and friend. Some people are speculating that Dumbledore's relationship with Harry was more than just a sort of fatherly relationship, but I disagree.

Yeah, the Bible thumpers are gonna have a field day with this one.

OA · 10-22-2007, 06:03 PM

Hmmm, well thats interesting...and I agree, I believe she was just truthfully answering questions, nothing else (and definately not trying to garner more interest in the series- I mean really, is that even possible at this point? Theres a freaking theme park being built!).

This got me thinking though, can anyone think of any other prominent gay character in children's literature? Cause I can't.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 10-22-2007, 08:05 PM

I wasn't surprised, and if she wants to come out and add even more in depth details about the characters that is great.
We really didn't know much about Dumbledore till book seven anyway, now after the fact there are just even more facts being given.
JK could always write something else, maybe she is doing research getting fan reactions...
I know I am digging deep but I really just can't accept that its over...lol

Ra · 10-23-2007, 02:25 AM

Oh, I'm sure she isn't going to just leave her writing like that. I think she's done with Harry Potter and is probably going to try her hand at something else...heck, it could be just as epic as HP, or even greater. You never know.

Random Fact: Yesterday, everyone at school was talking about this and different kinds of slash pairings with Dumbledore. I found that very funny...

He's still the same great character in my eyes, no matter if he went to gay rights parades or not.

Lady R. Santi · 10-23-2007, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

I wasn't surprised, and if she wants to come out and add even more in depth details about the characters that is great.
We really didn't know much about Dumbledore till book seven anyway, now after the fact there are just even more facts being given.
JK could always write something else, maybe she is doing research getting fan reactions...
I know I am digging deep but I really just can't accept that its over...lol

She has already considered writing an encyclopedia of sorts, probably not unlike her other additions, that would encompass her vast imaginary world. I could see an entry on Dumbledore having presented this information.

*Drtooth* · 10-23-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

This isn't the news section, it's the "books" section and we have many HP fans around. That's significant enough.

... the fact that the news media is treating it as a news story I mean. not the web board.

*Scandia* · 10-23-2007, 09:05 AM

It truly does not affect the plot in any way. He is my favorite character- and I was not concerned in one way or the other.

**Jo Dawn** · 10-23-2007, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

No. Not in the least, because 10 years from now when kids start reading Harry Potter, there won't be any mention of Dumbledore's sexuality at all.

Anyone who thinks that JK was saying this for any other reason than to just answer the question is kidding themselves. She wasn't trying to garner more interested in the series, she CLEARLY wasn't trying to make the characters in the book more diverse, she wasn't doing anything besides answering the question truthfully.

Agreed.

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She has already considered writing an encyclopedia of sorts, probably not unlike her other additions, that would encompass her vast imaginary world. I could see an entry on Dumbledore having presented this information.

Indeed, with the proceeds going to charity. I think it'd be brilliant. Though I'm sure it'll be longer than any of her other books, haha. I'd love to see it.

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Oh, I'm sure she isn't going to just leave her writing like that. I think she's done with Harry Potter and is probably going to try her hand at something else...

She already is; a crime drama. I'm highly anticipating it. But with her level of detail, I'm sure it'll be a heck of a plot; twists and all!

*BubblyShell22* · 10-24-2007, 09:16 AM

Yes, I've heard about both the encyclopedia and the crime drama. I can't wait to read both of these. And JK knows that fan fiction writers are going to have a field day with this story.

10-21-2007, 07:22 PM	#21
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Anyone else wonder if this is a PC attempt to add diversity to a series that has been occationally panned for it's lack there of? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-22-2007, 07:49 AM	#25
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I can agree with that, but you thinkl there'd be some, even very small refrences to it. But then again, I haven't read all of the books, so who am I to say there weren't. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-22-2007, 08:37 AM	#26
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Good thing we have this "news" report of a fictional character's supposed oreintation that wasn't even implied. Really isn't significant at all in the least. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

10-22-2007, 12:17 PM	#27
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,757	This isn't the news section, it's the "books" section and we have many HP fans around. That's significant enough. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

10-22-2007, 12:19 PM	#28
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Technically, 'Dumbledore is gay' isn't a direct answer to the question, but whatever. Either way, it doesn't matter. __________________

10-21-2007, 07:29 PM	#22
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	No. Not in the least, because 10 years from now when kids start reading Harry Potter, there won't be any mention of Dumbledore's sexuality at all. Anyone who thinks that JK was saying this for any other reason than to just answer the question is kidding themselves. She wasn't trying to garner more interested in the series, she CLEARLY wasn't trying to make the characters in the book more diverse, she wasn't doing anything besides answering the question truthfully.

10-22-2007, 02:31 AM	#23
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	I guess my question is "why?" I mean, if it wasn't significant enough to put in the actual book, why bother?

10-22-2007, 01:40 PM	#29
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Dumbledore is just a very happy wizard. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-22-2007, 05:20 PM	#32
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, I've heard about this, but it doesn't bother me. It doesn't change my perspective of Dumbledore in the least. To me, he'll always be the wise wizard who was Harry's mentor and friend. Some people are speculating that Dumbledore's relationship with Harry was more than just a sort of fatherly relationship, but I disagree. Yeah, the Bible thumpers are gonna have a field day with this one.

10-22-2007, 06:03 PM	#33
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Hmmm, well thats interesting...and I agree, I believe she was just truthfully answering questions, nothing else (and definately not trying to garner more interest in the series- I mean really, is that even possible at this point? Theres a freaking theme park being built!). This got me thinking though, can anyone think of any other prominent gay character in children's literature? Cause I can't. __________________

10-22-2007, 08:05 PM	#34
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	I wasn't surprised, and if she wants to come out and add even more in depth details about the characters that is great. We really didn't know much about Dumbledore till book seven anyway, now after the fact there are just even more facts being given. JK could always write something else, maybe she is doing research getting fan reactions... I know I am digging deep but I really just can't accept that its over...lol

10-23-2007, 02:25 AM	#35
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	Oh, I'm sure she isn't going to just leave her writing like that. I think she's done with Harry Potter and is probably going to try her hand at something else...heck, it could be just as epic as HP, or even greater. You never know. Random Fact: Yesterday, everyone at school was talking about this and different kinds of slash pairings with Dumbledore. I found that very funny... He's still the same great character in my eyes, no matter if he went to gay rights parades or not. __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

10-23-2007, 09:05 AM	#38
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	It truly does not affect the plot in any way. He is my favorite character- and I was not concerned in one way or the other. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

10-24-2007, 09:16 AM	#40
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yes, I've heard about both the encyclopedia and the crime drama. I can't wait to read both of these. And JK knows that fan fiction writers are going to have a field day with this story.