"Cyber Strike!" 8-page story - Page 2

*VaughnMichael* · 10-26-2007, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ifyoureadthispress:alt-F4

On the other hand some laws are stupid and should be ignored. ;P

I highly doubt anyone is going to get hurt in any way by him posting this comic.

Thanks, doc... Just the cure I needed for my boredom.

I think that's Murphy saying na na na I'm telling!

*DrSpengler* · 10-26-2007, 03:16 PM

Well, the comic was handed out for free. No money was asked for, no money was given, no money is to be lost by showing a FREE comic to people for FREE...over a decade after it was originally published and will likely never see print again.

But if Mirage's lawyers want to rain fire down upon me I'll remove it from the site. All I had intended was to share a piece of rare Michael Dooney TMNT art with the rest of the fans. I honestly hadn't expected the "Holy crap, you're a CRIMINAL!" response I'm getting.

Murphy · 10-26-2007, 03:19 PM

I'm not saying that the posting of this info on the Drome is illegal, I'm saying the posting of the pages on the blog is illegal. And again it's just a friendly warning to Dr S to perhaps reconsider the postings, or to reconsider being so public about it....

*DrSpengler* · 10-26-2007, 03:23 PM

I appreciate the heads up and I guess I won't be so public about it in the future.

But just to rerereclarify my original statement, I'm only posting the super rare, obscure, usually FREE and never gonna be reprinted stuff, like give-away comics and packin comics from decades ago.

I love the TMNT, as is obvious, and I would never make public any copywritten material that would be detrimental to the franchise's future.

Murphy · 10-26-2007, 03:27 PM

I realize your motivation and your position of, well, innocence. If you're going to post entire issues of copyrighted material you simply run the risk of being accused of copyright infringement.

I'm not ratting on you.

I'm outta here. Take care.

*Roseangelo* · 10-26-2007, 03:28 PM

For cryin' out loud...

How the book was distributed DOES NOT MATTER!

The people who made the comic got paid for making that comic and how much they got paid probably had to do with how many copies were being printed and the knowledge that it was going to be given away for free. They do not get paid for you posting it on a website. If you have any respect for those people, keep your comics to yourself.

Additionally (though apparently not obviously), the characters in the comic ARE NOT YOURS and you don't have the right to distribute anything with those characters PERIOD.

*gobo* · 10-26-2007, 03:37 PM

The tone was uncalled for, Rose. The crisis has been averted, and... did you just say that nobody stands to lose anything but pride?? O_o How was that supposed to help your argument? ^_^

*Roseangelo* · 10-26-2007, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobo

The tone was uncalled for, Rose. The crisis has been averted,

Yeah, some additional posts were made during my typing.

The continued argument that it's ok to break the law because of such and such, even after numerous statements that it is illegal, grated on me.

Quote:

and... did you just say that nobody stands to lose anything but pride?? O_o How was that supposed to help your argument? ^_^

No, my main point was: It's illegal no matter how you try to rationalize it.

**Krang** · 10-26-2007, 03:52 PM

Sorry, DrSpengler, but if Murphy says it's illegal, I'll take his word for it. I have removed the links, and they are not allowed to be posted again until the copyrighted material is removed.

*DrSpengler* · 10-26-2007, 05:30 PM

Roseangelo, if you could, please explain to me why I should be reviled for posting the Cyber Strike minicomic but there's nothing wrong with you posting the entirety of the PBZ #1 reprint online?

Did you get permission from Mirage to post it on the internet?

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 10-26-2007, 05:33 PM

I agree with you Spengler that it really shouldn't be a big deal, considering it probably won't be reprinted and thus no one is going to profit from it again more than likely. But yeah, copyright holders can sometimes get extreme in protecting their material. Are they ever going to decide to jump down the throats of any fansites that use any of their pictures, like a place that shows comic covers? Protecting entire issues of a book is one thing, but something that basically amounts to old promo material?

*gobo* · 10-26-2007, 06:25 PM

STOP THE MUD-SLINGING!!
Thank you. ^_^

*Roseangelo* · 10-26-2007, 06:26 PM

Hate on me all you like, and go ahead and call me a hypocrite (when you fully know the difference between my page that you linked to and what you're doing) but if you'd paid attention to anything I said yesterday, you'd see I was simply giving you the same advice Murphy did today.

The Internet is practically built on copyright violations. We walk on very fine, blurry lines.

Building a blog around the posting of full scans of complete stories, using your real name no less, is just not very smart. Mirage has been very kind to us as fans and they let us get away with a lot - There's no reason to push the limit with them.

*DrSpengler* · 10-26-2007, 06:56 PM

At the end of the day, you're posting copywritten Mirage property in its entirety online for the public to see without being granted permission by the owners of that property, which leaves you with less than a leg to stand on when it comes to criticizing my site. Sorry. You're no better than I am and breaking the law just as much.

*gobo* · 10-26-2007, 08:50 PM

Are we done now?

Why on Earth is this thread still unlocked anyway?

**Krang** · 10-27-2007, 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gobo

Are we done now?

Why on Earth is this thread still unlocked anyway?

I was hoping that the thread would veer back to discussing the actual comic, but it looks like that's not likely to happen...

10-26-2007, 03:19 PM	#23
Murphy Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Massachusetts US Posts: 78	Clarification I'm not saying that the posting of this info on the Drome is illegal, I'm saying the posting of the pages on the blog is illegal. And again it's just a friendly warning to Dr S to perhaps reconsider the postings, or to reconsider being so public about it....

10-26-2007, 03:27 PM	#25
Murphy Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Massachusetts US Posts: 78	yes but I realize your motivation and your position of, well, innocence. If you're going to post entire issues of copyrighted material you simply run the risk of being accused of copyright infringement. I'm not ratting on you. I'm outta here. Take care.

10-26-2007, 03:28 PM	#26
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,117	For cryin' out loud... How the book was distributed DOES NOT MATTER! The people who made the comic got paid for making that comic and how much they got paid probably had to do with how many copies were being printed and the knowledge that it was going to be given away for free. They do not get paid for you posting it on a website. If you have any respect for those people, keep your comics to yourself. Additionally (though apparently not obviously), the characters in the comic ARE NOT YOURS and you don't have the right to distribute anything with those characters PERIOD. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

10-26-2007, 03:37 PM	#27
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	The tone was uncalled for, Rose. The crisis has been averted, and... did you just say that nobody stands to lose anything but pride?? O_o How was that supposed to help your argument? ^_^ __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-26-2007, 03:52 PM	#29
Krang Admin and Sega Guru Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Dimension X Posts: 3,755	Sorry, DrSpengler, but if Murphy says it's illegal, I'll take his word for it. I have removed the links, and they are not allowed to be posted again until the copyrighted material is removed. __________________ "My motherboard's microchips are chomping at the... 'bit'. A little computer humor." --Krang, Welcome Back, Polarisoids

10-26-2007, 03:16 PM	#22
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Well, the comic was handed out for free. No money was asked for, no money was given, no money is to be lost by showing a FREE comic to people for FREE...over a decade after it was originally published and will likely never see print again. But if Mirage's lawyers want to rain fire down upon me I'll remove it from the site. All I had intended was to share a piece of rare Michael Dooney TMNT art with the rest of the fans. I honestly hadn't expected the "Holy crap, you're a CRIMINAL!" response I'm getting.

10-26-2007, 03:23 PM	#24
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	I appreciate the heads up and I guess I won't be so public about it in the future. But just to rerereclarify my original statement, I'm only posting the super rare, obscure, usually FREE and never gonna be reprinted stuff, like give-away comics and packin comics from decades ago. I love the TMNT, as is obvious, and I would never make public any copywritten material that would be detrimental to the franchise's future.

10-26-2007, 05:30 PM	#30
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Roseangelo, if you could, please explain to me why I should be reviled for posting the Cyber Strike minicomic but there's nothing wrong with you posting the entirety of the PBZ #1 reprint online? Did you get permission from Mirage to post it on the internet?

10-26-2007, 05:33 PM	#31
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I agree with you Spengler that it really shouldn't be a big deal, considering it probably won't be reprinted and thus no one is going to profit from it again more than likely. But yeah, copyright holders can sometimes get extreme in protecting their material. Are they ever going to decide to jump down the throats of any fansites that use any of their pictures, like a place that shows comic covers? Protecting entire issues of a book is one thing, but something that basically amounts to old promo material?

10-26-2007, 06:25 PM	#32
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	STOP THE MUD-SLINGING!! Thank you. ^_^ __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-26-2007, 06:26 PM	#33
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,117	Hate on me all you like, and go ahead and call me a hypocrite (when you fully know the difference between my page that you linked to and what you're doing) but if you'd paid attention to anything I said yesterday, you'd see I was simply giving you the same advice Murphy did today. The Internet is practically built on copyright violations. We walk on very fine, blurry lines. Building a blog around the posting of full scans of complete stories, using your real name no less, is just not very smart. Mirage has been very kind to us as fans and they let us get away with a lot - There's no reason to push the limit with them. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

10-26-2007, 06:56 PM	#34
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	At the end of the day, you're posting copywritten Mirage property in its entirety online for the public to see without being granted permission by the owners of that property, which leaves you with less than a leg to stand on when it comes to criticizing my site. Sorry. You're no better than I am and breaking the law just as much.

10-26-2007, 08:50 PM	#35
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Are we done now? Why on Earth is this thread still unlocked anyway? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.