Mikey's relationships

[syd]

Mikey got meh! ><

... Alright, he's in need of a closest living and intelligent thing in NT, given how he spends all his spare time throughout the series--reading superhero comics, watching monster DVDs, horsing around with Raphie, randomly cuddling with Klunk. :/

[TheUltimateShredhead]

Originally Posted by syd

Mikey got meh! ><

... Alright, he's in need of a closest living and intelligent thing in NT, given how he spends all his spare time throughout the series--reading superhero comics, watching monster DVDs, horsing around with Raphie, randomly cuddling with Klunk. :/

I thought you where banned?

[syd]

Originally Posted by OrokuSaki123

I thought you where banned?

You have a problem with my presence?

[Krang]

It was a one week temp ban.

[Sage Ninja]

the thing with Raph and Mikey is that there issues seem like something that has developed over time. That blow out in Meet Casey Jones where Raph became so angry he nearly smashes Mikey's head in after he loses to a sparring match is a big indication to how strained and volital their relationship can be. What floored me was how Mikey, after the incial blow out sened to just shrug it off like nothing happened . I think on some level they both resent the other for being what they are. Raph resents Mikey for his natural talent and happy-go-lucky attitude while he is bothered and agonises over his situation and fragile control over his temper. Mikey resents Raph for his strength and his tough attitude and maybe for Raph's raw abilty to let loose his temper, while Mikey has always had to use passive aggresive ways to express his negative emotions. So they like each other but I think they both see things in the other that they resent and makes them feel insecure. I think this is why Raph is constantly physcally bullying Mikey and Mikey can't help but rub anything accomplishment he has in Raph's face which only makes the tension worse between them. This was made even worse after Mikey's battle nexus win and he made it a point to rub how he defeated Raph in his face, after that I really noticed a distancing between him and Raph.

These two have the strangest relationship with each other Raphael can attack Mikey and Mikey forgives him and doesn't take it personaly. I wonder if it happens (or did) happen often and it is/was a regular occurance so Mikey learned to mearly shrug it off. But around the time Casey showed up I noticed that Raph and Mikey became less buddy buddy and friendly. I wonder if Mikey on a subconscience level is jealous of Casey and the similarites that Raph and him share that draw them together, and maybe feels like Casey has taken his place as best buddy with Raph. Kinda making feel out of the loop.

[Jelly Bean]

Can some one tell me who Mondo Gecko is? I've seen a few of you mention him on here and that he should be adapted into the cartoon as a friend for Mikey (or at least some one like him). Is he character from the mirage comics?

But around the time Casey showed up I noticed that Raph and Mikey became less buddy buddy and friendly. I wonder if Mikey on a subconscience level is jealous of Casey and the similarites that Raph and him share that draw them together, and maybe feels like Casey has taken his place as best buddy with Raph. Kinda making feel out of the loop.

Intersting. Mikey has never shown any signs of being jealous of Casey's friendship with Raph but I guess it could be possiable, although Mikey doesn't seem like he would get jealous over something like that.

[Scandia]

Mondo Gecko shows up in the Old Toon (2 episodes) and in the Archie TMNT Adventures comic. He has different origins in each series, though.

[syd]

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

Can some one tell me who Mondo Gecko is? I've seen a few of you mention him on here and that he should be adapted into the cartoon as a friend for Mikey (or at least some one like him). Is he character from the mirage comics?



Intersting. Mikey has never shown any signs of being jealous of Casey's friendship with Raph but I guess it could be possiable, although Mikey doesn't seem like he would get jealous over something like that.

Yeah... I don't remeber any sign Mikey got jealous of Casey Jones... but still an interesting hypothesis.

Off-topic, was there any episode where Mikey got jealous of something?

[Sage Ninja]

Otherwise, neither Michelangelo nor Leonardo got a peer best friend in any universe. Mondo Gecko shows up in just 2 episodes- and in the Archie comic he has a different origin and a very different finale. Usagi shows up more- not to mention he is in 3 universes- but he still is not a major character like Casey or April. So Mikey's and Leo's best friends are not their peers- and in Mikey's case, Klunk only shows up in 2 universes.

I disagree with the part about Leo not having a peer best friend. Leo has Usagi and even though he isn't a regular like April or Casey he has enough repport and chemsitry with usagi in those two episodes to show how close kinderd spirited they both are on a equal level. There definately peers.

[Scandia]

Yeah, but Usagi is not a regular like Casey and April are.

[Jelly Bean]

Originally Posted by syd

Yeah... I don't remeber any sign Mikey got jealous of Casey Jones... but still an interesting hypothesis.

Off-topic, was there any episode where Mikey got jealous of something?

I really can't think of a episode where Mikey got jealous. Mikey doesn't have much of a posessive/jealous streak. Some how I don't think Mikey would get jealous of Casey for being Raph's friend, I don't see him getting posessive of Raph. If anything I could see Raph being posessive or jealous of Mikey, if he felt Mikey was ignoring him or giving his attention to some one else.

[syd]

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

I really can't think of a episode where Mikey got jealous. Mikey doesn't have much of a posessive/jealous streak. Some how I don't think Mikey would get jealous of Casey for being Raph's friend, I don't see him getting posessive of Raph. If anything I could see Raph being posessive or jealous of Mikey, if he felt Mikey was ignoring him or giving his attention to some one else.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLz
Now we got another more interesting theory: Raph got jealous/posessive of Mikey. And Splinter got jealous/possesive of April, and Hun of Krang. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLz *pounding desk
Don't... take it wrong way, I'm just joking, and you really made my day, Jelly Bean. You just comfirmed my thought Mikey does lack of that kinda streak somehow, compared with his other brothers. For example, Leo got jealous of others overtaking him in leadership, Raph got jealous of others stealing his thunder in the shows, Donny got jealous of... well, maybe it's just me, but I insist my theory that Donny wants to take over the team instead of Leo. 0_o Or maybe you have a Donny/April theory and whatever, anyway, Donny got jealous of something, too. So all in all, it's just Mikey left of no one/nothing jealous. Uhm. ><

[Sage Ninja]

Off-topic, was there any episode where Mikey got jealous of something?

There is one episode in Fast Forward where he gets jealous. Just watch how he acts in Clash of the Turtle Titans Mikey was extremely jealous of the new turtle titan and took his assuming the turtle titan persona very personaly and went after him. Not one of Mikey's proudest moments since he acted rather shameful, but it does show Mikey getting jealous. Actualy as juvinile as Mikey can be I thought his behavior was a bit much even for him in this episode. I would have thought Mikey would be more honored than offended that some one was emulating him. But other than this episode Mikey doesn't show much jealously and possesiveness over anything. Although I do think that Mikey might be a bit jealous of his brothers on a subconscience level.

[Jelly Bean]

Yeah, but Usagi is not a regular like Casey and April are.

But Leo has Splinter and they have alot in common even when Usagi isn't around. Although I wonder do you think if Usagi was a regular that Leo and him would eventually come to odds with each other since Leo is a ninja and Usagi is a samurai? I remember an episode where Leo is in Usagi's world and they nock out some ninjas and steal their outfits and he comments that he feels that he is cloaked in dishonor, Usagi doesn't seem to like ninjas. Do you think that will become an issue at some point. Leo always seems to come to odds with people he has respect for.

Donny got jealous of... well, maybe it's just me, but I insist my theory that Donny wants to take over the team instead of Leo. 0_o

could you please give an example of when Don has ever shown signs of this please? Other than being a bit cranky, Don is the most laid back of the bunch, and uninterested in taking over the team.

[syd]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

There is one episode in Fast Forward where he gets jealous. Just watch how he acts in Clash of the Turtle Titans Mikey was extremely jealous of the new turtle titan and took his assuming the turtle titan persona very personaly and went after him. Not one of Mikey's proudest moments since he acted rather shameful, but it does show Mikey getting jealous. Actualy as juvinile as Mikey can be I thought his behavior was a bit much even for him in this episode. I would have thought Mikey would be more honored than offended that some one was emulating him. But other than this episode Mikey doesn't show much jealously and possesiveness over anything. Although I do think that Mikey might be a bit jealous of his brothers on a subconscience level.

Oh jeez, you mentioned it. -__- But don't you think that episode's a little bit OC? I can't even find Mikey's shadow throughout the show, except for his fool play one time and another. If I remeber right, he monkeyed with TT more than half of the show... it was like "Oh that ridiculous heavy fraud stole my TT thunder!" *go cranky* Yeah, it was pretty Raph way illustrated, in my view. Anyway...
And I kinda agree Mikey might be jealous of his other bros, it's reasonable, he's reckonded as the weakest in the team, the weakest could be jealous of the strongers, it's possible. ><

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

could you please give an example of when Don has ever shown signs of this please? Other than being a bit cranky, Don is the most laid back of the bunch, and uninterested in taking over the team.

You want the examples? Loooooooots of them, I remeber I had made a similar analysis some years before, titled as Don has a thing with Leo, that one, which I clearly remebered because that title stired up a high level enlish war somehow. You can search it for a while, it contains the origin of my Don VS Leo point.

[Jelly Bean]

hey just a thought, since Klunk is basically Mikey's best friend but since he is just a cat he can't be friends with him on the same level as Mikey, what if the show ever does a episode where Klunk gets mutated into a humanoid cat that can talk! Do you think Mikey would like that if klunk became his intellectual equal and he can hang out with and be his buddy or do you think Mikey would just want Klunk to be his pet?

Oh jeez, you mentioned it. -__- But don't you think that episode's a little bit OC? I can't even find Mikey's shadow throughout the show, except for his fool play one time and another. If I remeber right, he monkeyed with TT more than half of the show... it was like "Oh that ridiculous heavy fraud stole my TT thunder!" *go cranky*.

Mikey may have been a jerk about it but I think he had a right to feel pissed off. Being TT was kinda his thing and some else took it from him and was doing better at it.

[syd]

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

hey just a thought, since Klunk is basically Mikey's best friend but since he is just a cat he can't be friends with him on the same level as Mikey, what if the show ever does a episode where Klunk gets mutated into a humanoid cat that can talk! Do you think Mikey would like that if klunk became his intellectual equal and he can hang out with and be his buddy or do you think Mikey would just want Klunk to be his pet?

Pet, IMO. Or maybe his fluffy cuddle cushion lo? Anyway I don't sense Mikey want a buddy like Klunk, if he does he'd have carry it around everywhere, but he never keeps it around except when he needs a cushion or something, that's a hint that Mikey takes Klunk as a pet not a buddy.

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

Mikey may have been a jerk about it but I think he had a right to feel pissed off. Being TT was kinda his thing and some else took it from him and was doing better at it.

But don't you think if that super hero is not named TT everything'll be fine to Mikey lo? I think Mikey got jealous of TT simplely because he has already registered that title, anyway Mikey is a super-con and would like to help any superheroes to serve the justice, right?

[Scandia]

I do think Mikey sees Klunk as his buddy and not just his pet. While the other 3 Turtles see Klunk mainly as the family cat, Michelangelo truly has a special bond with Klunk that leads him to see this cat as a friend and not a pet.

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by Jelly Bean

hey just a thought, since Klunk is basically Mikey's best friend but since he is just a cat he can't be friends with him on the same level as Mikey, what if the show ever does a episode where Klunk gets mutated into a humanoid cat that can talk! Do you think Mikey would like that if klunk became his intellectual equal and he can hang out with and be his buddy or do you think Mikey would just want Klunk to be his pet?

I seriously doubt that if Klunk ever became mutated that they would be buddies if anything, Klunk would probably see Mikey as his father or something, like how Splinter sees Yoshi as his father. Pets see their humans as care givers and owners see them as almost like their baby. They might be friends but not on a equal buddy buddy level like between two humans. Plus I think Klunk turning into a humanoid cat would just screw up the relationship dynamic between Mikey and Klunk.

Mikey may have been a jerk about it but I think he had a right to feel pissed off. Being TT was kinda his thing and some else took it from him and was doing better at it.

It's not like the new guy ripped it off him. As far as Silver Sentry's grandson knew the orginal TT was dead. You can't steal something from some one if they are dead. Mikey was out of line.

[Scandia]

I seriously doubt that if Klunk ever became mutated that they would be buddies if anything, Klunk would probably see Mikey as his father or something, like how Splinter sees Yoshi as his father. Pets see their humans as care givers and owners see them as almost like their baby. They might be friends but not on a equal buddy buddy level like between two humans. Plus I think Klunk turning into a humanoid cat would just screw up the relationship dynamic between Mikey and Klunk.

They could still be best friends, even if they are not peers. Look at Leo and Splinter. Plus I'm pretty sure that Yoshi probably told Splinter that he was his best friend.