Ahhh, bad dream! - Page 2

**Karpo_007** · 03-10-2003, 03:26 PM

Yes, but it was intelligent, not spalstick humour for kiddies... Mirage universe is pretty dark, but still humor has always been part of it.

*Jephael* · 03-10-2003, 03:29 PM

It had humour when it was permitted, but they liked to have the turtles act really serious most of the time.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 03-10-2003, 04:39 PM

I'm sick of the cartoon bashing too...because apparently bashing it the way everybody's doing it right now isn't enough to make these noobs understand that it didn't start out as the goofy kids show, so why bother trying to convince them any further?

*sigh*...it's a losing battle; the only TMNT most people know is the original toon...when will society wake up and listen to me every time I try to tell them that it started as the dark comic and NOT that stupid kids show?

Krangfan · 03-10-2003, 05:56 PM

hey man, the kids show wasn't stupid, humorous with no plot, yes, but not stupid. btw, it's what I grew up with so it's special to me. Plus I don't like comics much

Apple Cat · 03-10-2003, 07:38 PM

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Krangfan · 03-10-2003, 08:14 PM

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hey man, the kids show wasn't stupid, humorous with no plot, yes, but not stupid. btw, it's what I grew up with so it's special to me. Plus I don't like comics much

Why don't you like the comics?

not the comics, just comics in general. I have a few Archie TMNT comics, but I collect action figures and video games, not comics. I'm sure they're good, but I don't wanna get involved with getting issues and stuff, unless of course I found them for cheap

~~Reznorite420~~ · 03-10-2003, 11:07 PM

The original cartoon was PLENTY stupid after the third season. As Karpo has said many times in the past, it should've kept the mood of the first season. We all would've liked it better.

Whoa, and to think, only a couple of months ago I was bashing the cartoon bashers, but now I'm one of them!

Apple Cat · 03-10-2003, 11:13 PM

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One Radical Dude · 03-10-2003, 11:14 PM

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I love "bashing" stuff!

Even "toitle bashing"?

Apple Cat · 03-10-2003, 11:25 PM

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*XERO* · 03-10-2003, 11:49 PM

Motto #2: As long as humor and action exists on TMNT, nothing else matters.

Mondo_Gecko · 03-11-2003, 12:55 AM

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The original cartoon was PLENTY stupid after the third season. As Karpo has said many times in the past, it should've kept the mood of the first season. We all would've liked it better.

Whoa, and to think, only a couple of months ago I was bashing the cartoon bashers, but now I'm one of them!

OH MY GOD!!!!

I'm gone for a week and a bit and this is what I come back to more bashing of my fav cartoon show. Stop it!! Stop the Bashing of the Show. You don't like the show anymore or you didn't like it ever. Fine but don't constantly call it stupid, goofy, kids crap or anything you like to put it down for the people who enjoy it. Why can't this be a nice friendly forum when people can like the Mirage Comics, The Old Cartoon, The Next Mutation, The New Cartoon etcc. I certaintly would like that. But obvisouly you like to put down everything you don't like it. And take great fun in doing so. I love the old cartoon to death as most people know. I love everything about it and always will.

I'm not a big fan of the new carton, the darker turtles have never really done it for me. But do you see me in every talkback putting it down a nd calling it stupid, crap, horrible. No! Cuz i know that people have diffrent tastes and I respect that. Well if i did do that everyone would get upset and cause a big stir because i don't like it. Well imagine how I and others feel when you constantly bash the old cartoon. I get upset as would you Rez, Karpo, Beaker and others if i did that.

I SWEAR TO GOD if one more person calls it stupid and kids crap i'll lose it and maybe i'll start bashing the new show and everything i dislkie about so you'll all feel how i feel right now. And i'll get 30 people i know to come on and post their dislike about the new show to great length. Do you see my point its not that nice to bash stuff just cuz you don't like or you feel your better then it. Let the people that enjoy it enjoy it. Just like I let you enjoy the new show to the greatness you all do.

Lets just get along with our diffrent intreasts and likes of the great Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Universe, like TMNT was meant to do, make people enjoy it, not people putting it down. What kind of Teenage Mutant Ninja Fan are you anyways?

Thats it i'm done.

*XERO* · 03-11-2003, 02:02 AM

Amen, brother!

**Krang** · 03-11-2003, 03:53 AM

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I'm sick of the cartoon bashing too...because apparently bashing it the way everybody's doing it right now isn't enough to make these noobs understand that it didn't start out as the goofy kids show, so why bother trying to convince them any further?

*sigh*...it's a losing battle; the only TMNT most people know is the original toon...when will society wake up and listen to me every time I try to tell them that it started as the dark comic and NOT that stupid kids show?

How is bashing the old cartoon supposed to help convince people of the origin of the TMNT? That makes absolutely no sense to me. All it does is cause people to get upset and not feel welcome here. If you're not capable of telling people that the TMNT started out as a "dark comic" without bashing the original cartoon, ignore them and leave it up to someone who is.

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The original cartoon was PLENTY stupid after the third season. As Karpo has said many times in the past, it should've kept the mood of the first season. We all would've liked it better.

Whoa, and to think, only a couple of months ago I was bashing the cartoon bashers, but now I'm one of them!

And I repeat:

NO MORE BASHING OF THE ORIGINAL TMNT CARTOON!

I haven't put that on the rules page yet because I assumed people wouldn't be immature enough to bash a children's cartoon from the 80s, but I guess I was wrong. I don't want to have to give out warnings for something so basic, but I may have to if this doesn't stop. Again, everyone is welcome to share their opinions here, but how difficult is it to say "I like the new cartoon better than the old one" or even "I don't like the old cartoon" instead of "The old cartoon is stupid"? These forums were intended to be a place where all kinds of TMNT fans could discuss their favorite TMNT universes, not just Mirage fans and new cartoon fans.

Sparvid · 03-11-2003, 06:45 AM

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If you want to go into your little worlds where tmnt should have nothing but action and no humor go ahead but that doesn't mean you should constantly insult those of the old show or those of us who enjoy it more.

Sorry, but I can't come up with any TMNT universe that doesn't have humor...

lol, did the original Mirage/Image comics have humor?

I have only read the first Image issue, so I can't say anything about those, but Mirage has plenty of humor, IMO.

-Think you can fly it, Don?
-Umm... No prob, Leo! Just... Hmm... like a regular car... kinda...
-Oh yeah? When's the last time you drove a car?!
TMNT #5

My question now is: What exactly is "bashing"? If I were to say: "I like Batman better than Batman Beyond, and I would've preferd if they had continued with Batman instead" am I bashing Beyond? What critisism can you give something without being accused for bashing? Oh, and is it allowed to bash TNM? Because no one complains when people say that those eps and ideas sucked...

**Karpo_007** · 03-11-2003, 07:48 AM

Saying the old cartoon is goofy show for kids is not bashing. It's a good word to decribe it, and thats basicly what the show is. I haven't noticed anyone calling it kids crap as mondo said, but if someone did, I agree thats really not needed here.

Krangfan · 03-11-2003, 03:52 PM

Of course the original cartoon was goofy! That's actually what I liked about it. Also, this topic reminds me of all the Beast Wars bashing at the 2005 boards (Transformers forum it would be)

**Karpo_007** · 03-11-2003, 05:11 PM

I know. I can't undestand why some people think sayin it's goofy is bashing.

*Jephael* · 03-11-2003, 05:58 PM

I don't find it offensive, but prefer the term comedic.

**Krang** · 03-12-2003, 03:19 AM

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My question now is: What exactly is "bashing"? If I were to say: "I like Batman better than Batman Beyond, and I would've preferd if they had continued with Batman instead" am I bashing Beyond? What critisism can you give something without being accused for bashing?

No, in your example, I wouldn't consider that bashing. I don't have a problem with people saying whether or not they liked the old cartoon or giving constructive criticism about it, but when they call it "stupid," "crap," etc., that's where I draw the line.

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Oh, and is it allowed to bash TNM? Because no one complains when people say that those eps and ideas sucked...

That hasn't caused any problems here, so I'm not going to make any rules against it.

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Saying the old cartoon is goofy show for kids is not bashing. It's a good word to decribe it, and thats basicly what the show is.

There are nicer ways to put it, but I agree that it is not bashing.

03-10-2003, 03:29 PM	#22
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	It had humour when it was permitted, but they liked to have the turtles act really serious most of the time. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

03-10-2003, 05:56 PM	#24
Krangfan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 434	hey man, the kids show wasn't stupid, humorous with no plot, yes, but not stupid. btw, it's what I grew up with so it's special to me. Plus I don't like comics much __________________ "Home is where you hang your hat" -Krang's favorite phrase Krang owns!

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03-10-2003, 03:26 PM	#21
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yes, but it was intelligent, not spalstick humour for kiddies... Mirage universe is pretty dark, but still humor has always been part of it.

03-10-2003, 04:39 PM	#23
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	I'm sick of the cartoon bashing too...because apparently bashing it the way everybody's doing it right now isn't enough to make these noobs understand that it didn't start out as the goofy kids show, so why bother trying to convince them any further? sigh...it's a losing battle; the only TMNT most people know is the original toon...when will society wake up and listen to me every time I try to tell them that it started as the dark comic and NOT that stupid kids show?

03-10-2003, 11:07 PM	#27
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	The original cartoon was PLENTY stupid after the third season. As Karpo has said many times in the past, it should've kept the mood of the first season. We all would've liked it better. Whoa, and to think, only a couple of months ago I was bashing the cartoon bashers, but now I'm one of them!

03-10-2003, 11:49 PM	#31
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Motto #2: As long as humor and action exists on TMNT, nothing else matters. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

03-11-2003, 02:02 AM	#33
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Amen, brother! __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

03-11-2003, 07:48 AM	#36
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Saying the old cartoon is goofy show for kids is not bashing. It's a good word to decribe it, and thats basicly what the show is. I haven't noticed anyone calling it kids crap as mondo said, but if someone did, I agree thats really not needed here.

03-11-2003, 03:52 PM	#37
Krangfan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 434	Of course the original cartoon was goofy! That's actually what I liked about it. Also, this topic reminds me of all the Beast Wars bashing at the 2005 boards (Transformers forum it would be) __________________ "Home is where you hang your hat" -Krang's favorite phrase Krang owns!

03-11-2003, 05:11 PM	#38
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I know. I can't undestand why some people think sayin it's goofy is bashing.

03-11-2003, 05:58 PM	#39
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	I don't find it offensive, but prefer the term comedic. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988