Say goodbye to Toonami...

[Spike Spiegel]

I feel like a chapter of the book of my life is gone. Toonami was so important to me for so many years. Even when it was crappy, I was still glad it existed...

I guess all good things must come to an end. Now I have no reason whatsoever to watch Cartoon Network.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Roger Smith

I guess all good things must come to an end. Now I have no reason whatsoever to watch Cartoon Network.

No one does. They don't care at all. They don't try... Toonami gets killed for idiotic movies you can see on any given number of other outlets. And Old ones at that.

[Jon]

^ This from one who hasn't even been able to see the channel.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Drtooth

No one does. They don't care at all. They don't try... Toonami gets killed for idiotic movies you can see on any given number of other outlets. And Old ones at that.

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by TheCure

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

I like Total Drama Island as well. Flapjack is awesome too.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by TheCure

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

Yeah, there's a fairly good amount of shows still on CN, people just wont admit it because it's not the shows they watched at a young age.

If everyone still aired the same bloody shows every week, things would really EXTREMLY boring. Some things you ought to keep if it still works, but not everything ever will. Toonami was one of those blocks that evolution had left behind and needed putting it out of it's misery, it had no place on CN anymore.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by TheCure

Shut up, man. It still has good shows like Chowder and Total Drama Island. They're both worth a chuckle.

Chowder has the potential to save the network. it really does. Of the 3 or 4 episodes I've seen, I really loved it. But Zarius is right on the money.

I was able to see the network a while back... and all it aired was Chowder, Skunk Fu, Johnny Test, and Ben 10. Now, as good as Chowder and Ben 10 are, they don't need to be on every 2 hours. I don't know if that was a special Summer type thing... but Skunk Fu? Johnny Test? didn't they get like a 0.5 share on Kid's WB or something? And they're basing a network on those 2 as well?

Personally, if one thing has to go... and I'm driving this into the wall...

NON ANIMATED MOVIES
Originals or not... this isn't the bloody "Kid's Movie" network. And they're mostly movies everyone has seen by now. When I was on vacation, I saw 2 different movie time slots... one on Friday, one on Sunday. Now a third one Saturday? And it's crap like Son of the Mask. Man, that movie is over 5 years old. No one liked it the first time.

They need a management change. And not a P.R. stunt so we can think the person behind hiring the wrong advertising firm behind the Light Brite Scandal of 07 gets punished... a management shake up of someone with EXPERIENCE... or that actually knows what a cartoon is.!

[PizzaPower]

USA TV programming sucks big time. The Japs get most of the good stuff.

[Jon]

*Dr. Tooth*

Yes, think that was the case (a Summer thing). As they would have mini-marathons of shows each day for a time. But now there is a more varied line-up of shows.

Still, as Zarius has also noted, there are quite a few good cartoons on CN.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by PizzaPower

USA TV programming sucks big time. The Japs get most of the good stuff.

They KEEP most of the good stuff too. Someone's gotta localize Yattaman... the new one, the old one... I don't care. France has some nice stuff too. I'm gonna have to learn to speak French and try to see if I can work at Xiliam....

[oldmanwinters]

I haven't watched Toonami since they stopped airing Justice League and Dragonball Z. But it is tragic to see it go. This time block pretty much made my college afternoons all the more awesome.

Check out Toonami Arsenal for downloads of all your favorite promos from the past!
http://www.toonamiarsenal.com/






Thanks for building me a better cartoon show, Tom.

[PizzaPower]

Originally Posted by Drtooth

They KEEP most of the good stuff too. Someone's gotta localize Yattaman... the new one, the old one... I don't care. France has some nice stuff too. I'm gonna have to learn to speak French and try to see if I can work at Xiliam....

yea they keep some of the good stuff. But what about Rugrats. Or when they started showing the unedited version of Dragonball Z. I miss that.

[Jon]

Well, can get the Uncut DBZ on DVD anyway. With the newer Season Set releases already being up to the Cell Games (in the course of 6 Sets).

[DrSpengler]

A lot of people complain about the "crudely drawn" cartoons on CN and how much they hate them, then recollect fondly on the likes of Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken and Powerpuff Girls.

This ever irritate anybody else?

Those shows were just as "crudely drawn" as Chowder, Flapjack and Total Drama Island but made up for it with clever stories, well-timed jokes and quality voice-acting.

I totally dig all three of the newer shows I listed above (though the fart jokes in Total Drama Island can begin to wear on me). It doesn't matter if the show looks as gorgeous as Avatar so long as the animation is good enough to get the jokes and story across. A show like Chowder doesn't need to be animated by Ghibli, people!


I'm not defending every choice CN has made. I, too, loathe the live action movie nights and I think Adult Swim needs to be put down as badly as Toonami, but there are still quite a few good things going on at the network and plenty of diamonds sticking out of the rough.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

A lot of people complain about the "crudely drawn" cartoons on CN and how much they hate them, then recollect fondly on the likes of Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken and Powerpuff Girls.

This ever irritate anybody else?

Those shows were just as "crudely drawn" as Chowder, Flapjack and Total Drama Island but made up for it with clever stories, well-timed jokes and quality voice-acting.

Hey... I don't mind crudely animated or crudely drawn cartoons. I just can't stand one that's crudely written. In fact, I love how Chowder looks more like Spongebob and less like Dexter. Round shapes taking precedence over blocky looks. I mean, I have no problem with that, but it was way too over used lately.

But then again, I could dust of the old Pocahontas vs Bullwinkle theory again. You can have a great show with crude drawings and animation but great writing... you can't have a good product with great animation and poor writing.

[Hero]

That's sad to hear. Of course you guys know how bad the UK version of Toonami went eh?

===HERO

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Hero

That's sad to hear. Of course you guys know how bad the UK version of Toonami went eh?

===HERO

Oh lord that's worth a book.

Not as bad as the infamous "CNX" debacle.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

I stopped watching Cartoon Network on a regular basis when Justice League was canceled.

I think most channels are turning to crap now. None of them are what they used to be.

[J Legault]

I can still remenber when they used to show a whole package of non-anime shows along with anime itself. Toonami was how I got caught up with Reboot when they brought the series when it got canned from ABC and aired the slightly more serious plotted episodes of Season 3.

Even though that series is long cancelled, it proves that there was an exciting CGI show way before CGI is commonly used in animation.

A lot of fans complained how CN didn't had a care for Reboot. And when Mainframe Animations made "My Two Bobs" a cliffhanger and were hoping that CN would tell them to make more, it never happened. Ofcourse there were a lot of reasons why the show ended so suddenly.

[Hero]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Oh lord that's worth a book.

Not as bad as the infamous "CNX" debacle.

CNX was pretty decent. It's a shame we later ended up with a watered down Toonami that favoured shows like Hangin' With Mr Cooper and Life With Derek over animated shows. And let's not forget the nighttime slot being used for triple/quadruple bills of Beyblade instead of Adult Swim.

===HERO