Old School Fighting Games - Page 2

*XERO* · 08-28-2009, 02:28 PM

Boogerman. 'Nuff said.

Peanut · 08-28-2009, 03:34 PM

God. I forgot they stuck that abomination of a character in Clayfighters. Not that characters like Kung Pow and Houngan were any better.

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They cut out several characters from Clayfighter 63 1/3 too--if you look at the old ads for the game you can see some of them. There was a Statue of Liberty character, my personal favorite "Hobo Cop" (a drunken bum dressed up in garbage Robocop "armor"--he obviously got cut 'cuz he wasn't PC enough), etc. Sumo Santa was awesome.

Blockbuster actually had an exclusive copy of the game that had the Statue of Liberty character, as well as some other random sh*t like a severed hand and some kind of weird dog. The worst part about the whole thing was that all the original characters lost...pretty much all of their special moves. Awful.

*XERO* · 08-28-2009, 03:45 PM

I did like the Terminator-based box art for the sequel.

Pathetic awesomness at it's best.

*Ninjinister* · 08-31-2009, 08:51 AM

As much as I hated Houngan, I still get a chuckle out of "Fly de Voodoo Skies!" for some reason.

*XERO* · 08-31-2009, 03:46 PM

I almost forgot about Pitfighter.

Damnit.

jalexbrown · 09-07-2009, 05:48 PM

I was kind of a fighting game lover back in the day, but most everything I liked was big-name stuff. Of course I loved Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat II (the first one felt like a prototype, and the third one on sucked). As Benvenuto mentioned, Pitfighter was another awesome arcade game. The Marvel vs. games were great, too. Samurai Shodown was fun, but I played it when I was no good at fighting games, and I always got my ass kicked. Of course we can't forget TMNT: Tournament Fighters. That was a game that I loved on my Sega Genesis back in the day.

Peanut · 09-07-2009, 07:09 PM

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Mortal Kombat II (the first one felt like a prototype, and the third one on sucked).

This simply isn't true.

*Wes* · 09-07-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Does anybody here find the "World Heroes 2" SNES port to be any good?

I'm late to this party... but yes. Enthusiastically yes. I still play that game on a daily basis -- thanks to the magic of emulators and savestates and whatnot, I'll routinely pull it up to fight against Hanzo or Dio or Janne. It's pretty much my solitaire.

The seesaw match thing is pretty awesome too -- when you win one of those fights, you never feel like you just got lucky. You earn those wins.

All fighting games should have seesaw matches.

jalexbrown · 09-07-2009, 09:03 PM

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This simply isn't true.

What part would you argue? The part about the first game, or the part about the third one? I suppose the first game's quality is up for some debate, but I think that the lackluster quality of the third one is not at all questionable. The total replacement of the ninja characters was my biggest disappointment with the third, along with the fact that the dial-a-combo system was terrible.

Peanut · 09-07-2009, 09:07 PM

The part where you said the 3rd one and on sucked. The 3rd may not have been as "classic" as the 2nd, but it had its place, especially UMK3. And past that, they may not have been "great", but they certainly haven't sucked. MK vs DC in particular was a lot of fun, and a really good start towards the next MK game.

And while not really a fighting game, Shaolin Monks was awesome.

jalexbrown · 09-07-2009, 09:14 PM

Was Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 the one where they brought back all of the characters? I know Mortal Kombat Trilogy had all of the characters in it, but I can't remember Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 too well. As for Mortal Kombat vs. DC...I can't comment on that; I disliked the concept so much that I never bothered with it.

And yes, Shaolin Monks was pretty awesome. So was Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero.

Peanut · 09-07-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jalexbrown

Was Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 the one where they brought back all of the characters? I know Mortal Kombat Trilogy had all of the characters in it, but I can't remember Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 too well. As for Mortal Kombat vs. DC...I can't comment on that; I disliked the concept so much that I never bothered with it.

And yes, Shaolin Monks was pretty awesome. So was Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero.

Yes, they brought all the ninjas back in, balanced a bunch of the combos and moves, and added some new modes. Honestly, you shouldn't be hating on MK3 if you haven't spent significant time with UMK3, because it really is a lot better.

And you should give MK vs DC a try. I was also against how stupid the idea was, but it actually turned out to be really fun.

jalexbrown · 09-07-2009, 09:29 PM

The thing about MK3 that I don't understand is...if it was supposed to be so good, why did they roll out like three versions around the same time? First there was regular old MK3, and then there was UMK3, and then there was MKT. They must have known there was *something* wrong with MK3 if they had to fix it up and rebrand it as UMK3. And if UMK3 was so great, what was the point in releasing MKT?

Peanut · 09-07-2009, 09:42 PM

MK3 was broken, there's no denying that. And people were pissed the ninjas were gone. But I feel like you don't understand what MKT even is. It's not another version of MK3, it combines things from MK, MKII and MK3, using a lot of the mechanics of 3. It was also made to bring MK to the new consoles (64 and PS1) instead of doing the lazy thing and just porting UMK3 over.

So, facts. You know. They're good.

jalexbrown · 09-07-2009, 09:51 PM

*Actually*, MK3 and UMK3 were on PS1 before MKT. So how was MKT bringing MK to the new consoles, when UMK3 did that over a year before MKT was released (although MKT *was* new on the N64; I give you that much). And while it's true that MKT did combine elements from all of the previous games, the core gameplay was all MK3, albeit with the Aggressor added.

(By the way, I'm certainly not attacking your opinions, and I hope you're not attacking mine, either.)

Peanut · 09-07-2009, 09:57 PM

UMK3 wasn't on the PS1, as far as I know. MK3 was, however. And I know it was based on UMK3, that's why I said it used the mechanics of 3.

And I'm not attacking you. I honestly don't really care. I'm not even "defending" the game, because there's no point in trying to change opinions. I'm just trying to set you straight on it.

jalexbrown · 09-07-2009, 10:05 PM

I stand utterly corrected. UMK3 wasn't released on PS1. I could have sworn it was, but I must have just been thinking of MK3. I guess doing some fact-checking would have been helpful.

Also, I am far from a genius when it comes to MK knowledge. I am not a huge fan of the series aside from MK2. I stated what I thought was fact, and I've been shown wrong. You've caught me twice in like...what?...ten minutes. Next time you see that I'm wrong, you should let me slide.

*Ninjinister* · 09-07-2009, 10:07 PM

Yeah, UMK3 was never on PS1. Technically, though, MK2 was (... in Japan....)

I actually got done with mini-reviews on the first four games. MKII got the highest marks, 1 and 3 got rather low ones, and UMK3 is headed back towards the area 2 is. I have a feeling Trilogy will match or exceed 2 when I get finished, then 4 and Gold will dip back down before Deadly Alliance comes around. I've already given good reviews to Deception and DC Universe (although I may have to go back over Deception since I initially wrote it at release).

Peanut · 09-07-2009, 10:15 PM

I honestly think Trilogy is a lot worse. UMK3 is still the definitive MK game to me.

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Also, I am far from a genius when it comes to MK knowledge. I am not a huge fan of the series aside from MK2. I stated what I thought was fact, and I've been shown wrong. You've caught me twice in like...what?...ten minutes. Next time you see that I'm wrong, you should let me slide.

Haha. I wasn't trying to do that, man. No worries.

jalexbrown · 09-07-2009, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

Yeah, UMK3 was never on PS1. Technically, though, MK2 was (... in Japan....)

I actually got done with mini-reviews on the first four games. MKII got the highest marks, 1 and 3 got rather low ones, and UMK3 is headed back towards the area 2 is. I have a feeling Trilogy will match or exceed 2 when I get finished, then 4 and Gold will dip back down before Deadly Alliance comes around. I've already given good reviews to Deception and DC Universe (although I may have to go back over Deception since I initially wrote it at release).

I've been mentioning it this whole time and I still forgot to mention that I also love MKT. I think MKT combines all of the best elements of all of the 2D MK games into one package. Are you going to review the PS1 version of MKT?

08-28-2009, 02:28 PM	#21
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Boogerman. 'Nuff said. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

08-28-2009, 03:45 PM	#23
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	I did like the Terminator-based box art for the sequel. Pathetic awesomness at it's best. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

08-31-2009, 08:51 AM	#24
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	As much as I hated Houngan, I still get a chuckle out of "Fly de Voodoo Skies!" for some reason. __________________

08-31-2009, 03:46 PM	#25
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	I almost forgot about Pitfighter. Damnit. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

09-07-2009, 10:07 PM	#38
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	Yeah, UMK3 was never on PS1. Technically, though, MK2 was (... in Japan....) I actually got done with mini-reviews on the first four games. MKII got the highest marks, 1 and 3 got rather low ones, and UMK3 is headed back towards the area 2 is. I have a feeling Trilogy will match or exceed 2 when I get finished, then 4 and Gold will dip back down before Deadly Alliance comes around. I've already given good reviews to Deception and DC Universe (although I may have to go back over Deception since I initially wrote it at release). __________________

09-07-2009, 05:48 PM	#26
jalexbrown Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 139	I was kind of a fighting game lover back in the day, but most everything I liked was big-name stuff. Of course I loved Street Fighter II and Mortal Kombat II (the first one felt like a prototype, and the third one on sucked). As Benvenuto mentioned, Pitfighter was another awesome arcade game. The Marvel vs. games were great, too. Samurai Shodown was fun, but I played it when I was no good at fighting games, and I always got my ass kicked. Of course we can't forget TMNT: Tournament Fighters. That was a game that I loved on my Sega Genesis back in the day.

09-07-2009, 09:07 PM	#30
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	The part where you said the 3rd one and on sucked. The 3rd may not have been as "classic" as the 2nd, but it had its place, especially UMK3. And past that, they may not have been "great", but they certainly haven't sucked. MK vs DC in particular was a lot of fun, and a really good start towards the next MK game. And while not really a fighting game, Shaolin Monks was awesome.

09-07-2009, 09:14 PM	#31
jalexbrown Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 139	Was Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 the one where they brought back all of the characters? I know Mortal Kombat Trilogy had all of the characters in it, but I can't remember Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 too well. As for Mortal Kombat vs. DC...I can't comment on that; I disliked the concept so much that I never bothered with it. And yes, Shaolin Monks was pretty awesome. So was Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero.

09-07-2009, 09:29 PM	#33
jalexbrown Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 139	The thing about MK3 that I don't understand is...if it was supposed to be so good, why did they roll out like three versions around the same time? First there was regular old MK3, and then there was UMK3, and then there was MKT. They must have known there was something wrong with MK3 if they had to fix it up and rebrand it as UMK3. And if UMK3 was so great, what was the point in releasing MKT?

09-07-2009, 09:42 PM	#34
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	MK3 was broken, there's no denying that. And people were pissed the ninjas were gone. But I feel like you don't understand what MKT even is. It's not another version of MK3, it combines things from MK, MKII and MK3, using a lot of the mechanics of 3. It was also made to bring MK to the new consoles (64 and PS1) instead of doing the lazy thing and just porting UMK3 over. So, facts. You know. They're good.

09-07-2009, 09:51 PM	#35
jalexbrown Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 139	Actually, MK3 and UMK3 were on PS1 before MKT. So how was MKT bringing MK to the new consoles, when UMK3 did that over a year before MKT was released (although MKT was new on the N64; I give you that much). And while it's true that MKT did combine elements from all of the previous games, the core gameplay was all MK3, albeit with the Aggressor added. (By the way, I'm certainly not attacking your opinions, and I hope you're not attacking mine, either.)

09-07-2009, 09:57 PM	#36
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	UMK3 wasn't on the PS1, as far as I know. MK3 was, however. And I know it was based on UMK3, that's why I said it used the mechanics of 3. And I'm not attacking you. I honestly don't really care. I'm not even "defending" the game, because there's no point in trying to change opinions. I'm just trying to set you straight on it.

09-07-2009, 10:05 PM	#37
jalexbrown Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 139	I stand utterly corrected. UMK3 wasn't released on PS1. I could have sworn it was, but I must have just been thinking of MK3. I guess doing some fact-checking would have been helpful. Also, I am far from a genius when it comes to MK knowledge. I am not a huge fan of the series aside from MK2. I stated what I thought was fact, and I've been shown wrong. You've caught me twice in like...what?...ten minutes. Next time you see that I'm wrong, you should let me slide.