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Old 06-18-2010, 01:34 AM   #21
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Self-confidence issues? Yeah, I might have some. I'm not sure about that. I'd like to be taken seriously.
I feel for you, and I think there are quite a few of them here(myself included) that take you and your opinions seriously.
THAT being said comparing this to the Oil spill is blasphemy. THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE AND SEA CREATURES' LIVES ARE IN DANGER CUZ YOU WATCH PORN AND ALLOW CHILDREN TO WATCH IT!! ********
Although I do agree that porn addiction is a problem I know quite a bit of couples that watch it together. But I dunno maybe I'm missing something here.
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:51 AM   #22
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In my opinion, some video games are, actually.
I'd love some real examples, but that's getting off-topic.

Blaming porn for ruining Children's life are idiotic on the same level as blaming video games, comic books, movies and rock'n roll for society's problems.

and siding it at the same scale of horror as the oil spill... wow people are pure idiots. A Oil spill is a local Armageddon ruining life. Porn is a product of a industry aimed at adults. Fuels mistreatment of women? I'm sure the female professional porn actors and directors have something else to say.

If parents want to blame anyone for sexualized little girls view of their own value, how bout the mainstream media playing on sex every freakin' time, or Barbie and Bratz dolls, High-school musical movies.
Or just take a good look in the mirror, talk to the children, control their Internet use. Put on some filters on stuff you don't want them to find.

Parenting isn't any harder or easier then it was a hundred years ago, it just require taking interest in what the child is doing, and act a bit.
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:46 PM   #23
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Because women don't watch porn. Right? RIGHT?

What about gay porn? Surely that is ripe for mistreatment of women, right there.

Yeahhh.
Whatever. Enjoy watching your porn. I don’t care. Just make sure you clean the keyboard before someone else uses it.

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I feel for you, and I think there are quite a few of them here(myself included) that take you and your opinions seriously.
Thank you. I appreciate that.


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I'd love some real examples, but that's getting off-topic.

Blaming porn for ruining Children's life are idiotic on the same level as blaming video games, comic books, movies and rock'n roll for society's problems.

and siding it at the same scale of horror as the oil spill... wow people are pure idiots. A Oil spill is a local Armageddon ruining life. Porn is a product of a industry aimed at adults. Fuels mistreatment of women? I'm sure the female professional porn actors and directors have something else to say.

If parents want to blame anyone for sexualized little girls view of their own value, how bout the mainstream media playing on sex every freakin' time, or Barbie and Bratz dolls, High-school musical movies.
Or just take a good look in the mirror, talk to the children, control their Internet use. Put on some filters on stuff you don't want them to find.

Parenting isn't any harder or easier then it was a hundred years ago, it just require taking interest in what the child is doing, and act a bit.
How about the ‘Manhunt’ video games? Those are real examples of murder simulators.

Yeah, the people involved in the porn industry are making money. So I’m sure they won’t say anything bad about it. Some people will do anything for money.

That’s bullsh*t that children’s toys like Barbie and Bratz dolls should be blamed. Porn is part of the problem for women being looked at as objects. Face reality already.

This is like a smoker that defends smoking, just because they are addicted to it.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:01 PM   #24
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That’s bullsh*t that children’s toys like Barbie and Bratz dolls should be blamed. Porn is part of the problem for women being looked at as objects. Face reality already.

This is like a smoker that defends smoking, just because they are addicted to it.
Just so I'm clear here, on your reasoning.
Porn is to blame for the objectification of women.
Children's toys are not.

Care to explain why?
Where's the difference?

Especially considering the toy you're defending is Barbie of all things. The doll of choice for unrealistic body types.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...parison466.gif)

Also, just as a hint. Want people to take your opinions seriously?
Stop calling everyone who disagrees with you "addicts" or "out of touch with reality."
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:10 PM   #25
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This is like a smoker that defends smoking, just because they are addicted to it.
....Plastroncafe is a chick. So females are to blamed for watching porn and abusing other females?.... My brain just went dead.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:23 PM   #26
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Just so I'm clear here, on your reasoning.
Porn is to blame for the objectification of women.
Children's toys are not.

Care to explain why?
Where's the difference?

Especially considering the toy you're defending is Barbie of all things. The doll of choice for unrealistic body types.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...parison466.gif)

Also, just as a hint. Want people to take your opinions seriously?
Stop calling everyone who disagrees with you "addicts" or "out of touch with reality."
Yes, porn is to blame for the objectification of women.

Barbie dolls and other such toys are for children to play with.

Porn is for adults to perv-out on. There's no love involved, only lust.

Parents should tell their kids that Barbie is only a toy, not a body model to follow.

I have action figures, such as DC Universe Classics and Marvel Legends. They look 'cooler' with the unrealistic body type. I wouldn't prefer a fat, short, out of shape Batman. That doesn't mean I'm going to try to make myself look like Batman. It's fantasy.

You're right, I need to stop with the 'labels'. I shouldn't tell people they are 'addicts'. If I want people to take my opinions seriously, I should tell my opinions to a group of people that think the way I do. Everyone wants others to agree with them. I suppose we would have no issues here if I simply agreed, and told you what you wanted to hear.

So, closing statement, I would have been better off not telling my opinions. Mystery people are never disliked, for there is no reason to dislike them. I said some stuff you didn't like.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:32 PM   #27
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Come down off your cross, man. We need the space.
Sheesh, I can't tell what's worse, the mansplaining or the passive aggression.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:36 PM   #28
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I have action figures, such as DC Universe Classics and Marvel Legends. They look 'cooler' with the unrealistic body type. I wouldn't prefer a fat, short, out of shape Batman. That doesn't mean I'm going to try to make myself look like Batman. It's fantasy.
But little girls will be influenced by what they see around them. You said it yourself, you'd rather have a fit unrealistic batman then a fat short guy. Even though there figures are totally unrealistic, children are small and easily impressionable, they will pick up on those unrealistic figures the toys have and try to attempt to get them as well. You can't say toys don't influence little girls to preteens to have that perfect figure they grew up knowing everyone wanted and was represented through their toys, can you?

I can totally see where you are coming from with your opinion on porn, but it is your opinion and doesn't mean everyone needs to have it. So chill man, can't we all just get along?
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:46 PM   #29
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Come down off your cross, man. We need the space.
Sheesh, I can't tell what's worse, the mansplaining or the passive aggression.
I regret posting in this topic. I really do. I’m going to try to learn from this experience. Because I think a lot of people think I’m an asshole when I tell some of my opinions.


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But little girls will be influenced by what they see around them. You said it yourself, you'd rather have a fit unrealistic batman then a fat short guy. Even though there figures are totally unrealistic, children are small and easily impressionable, they will pick up on those unrealistic figures the toys have and try to attempt to get them as well. You can't say toys don't influence little girls to preteens to have that perfect figure they grew up knowing everyone wanted and was represented through their toys, can you?

I can totally see where you are coming from with your opinion on porn, but it is your opinion and doesn't mean everyone needs to have it. So chill man, can't we all just get along?
Yes, I agree with you. You’re right about the dolls and action figures. What you said makes sense to me.

I welcome peace.
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:52 PM   #30
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I regret posting in this topic. I really do. I’m going to try to learn from this experience. Because I think a lot of people think I’m an asshole when I tell some of my opinions.
Why don't you quit while you're ahead, man.

Oh wait...
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:54 PM   #31
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Why don't you quit while you're ahead, man.

Oh wait...
Yeah, that's a good point.

*leaves the 'porno' topic forever now.*
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:15 PM   #32
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You know, I'm also not a fan of porn, but if I ever try shoving my opinions down anyone's throats like that please shoot me.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:22 PM   #33
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Manhunt is not a murder simulator, when does it ever properly learn someone how to properly kill someone? You push buttons, you don't actually wield the weapons. Nor does it train you to keep your calm while killing someone. You can't train on a video game to become a better killer.

it's like saying I'm becoming a better guitar player playing guitar hero, I'm sure people want to hear me play "Through the Fires and Flames" just because i can play it decently on medium.

Pornographic imagery have existed since mankind created art, there is fertility statues dating from the stone-age, Females in the medieval times was very sexual, the whole freakin Greek mythology are one big orgy. There exists Porn movies dating back to the 20's.

Porn is just a scapegoat like so many other things have been
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:25 PM   #34
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95% of porn is so ridiculously ****** that it makes me either laugh or feel nauseous.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:33 PM   #35
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Pornography fuels the mistreatment of women. There are a lot of guys that look at women as sexual objects. To them it's like having a car, a video game, or a box of cookies.
No way dude. I love porno and I've always been a great boyfriend. Some girl I met the other day even told my friend that I was a "gentleman"
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:36 PM   #36
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People that hate on porn are either religious and have to do it out of guilt, or are women.
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Old 06-18-2010, 04:51 PM   #37
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Yeah, I know I said I wasn't coming back to this topic. Well, I'm back. What are you going to do about it? I changed my mind. Oh well.

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People that hate on porn are either religious and have to do it out of guilt, or are women.
I am religious. That's part of the reason why I don't like porn.

I do believe that a lot of guys that look at porn don't respect women. Nothing is going to change that belief. Even if I didn't have any religious beliefs, I still wouldn't like porn.
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:14 PM   #38
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Here's the part you seem to not be getting. "Guys that look at porn don't respect women FACT" Is what you are saying. That is not a fact, that is your opinion and nothing more. You do not speak for the entire male gender and it's completely ridiculous to say things like that. I know a lot of men that watch porn, and WORSHIP women.

I'm a male who doesn't watch porn, not because it "Objectifies" women, but because I find it disgusting and girls with implants and lots of makeup don't appeal to me. Would I watch it if I didn't find girls with millions of dollars of plastic surgery to be revolting? Maybe. Do I not respect women? Of course I do. I respect women more than men in a lot of ways. Most of the people I look up to ARE Women.
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Old 06-18-2010, 05:16 PM   #39
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People that hate on porn are either religious and have to do it out of guilt, or are women.
2/3 works for me
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I watch porn, and respect women.

But i'm just one guy and not a lot of guys... That would just be creepy
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