91 killed in Oslo massacre

[PAAATE]

The fact that he's a paranoid schizophrenic doesn't exactly come as a surprise. I mean, if you read what he's written and listen to what he says, the guy really does believe that the Norwegian Social Democrats collaborate with Muslims to eradicate Norwegian culture. That's delusional paranoia if I've ever seen it

And as a left-winger and friend of a few Muslims myself, I find it kinda... eerie.

But yeah, whatever his mental illness may be, that's obviously no excuse to let him go. On the contrary, the fact that this guy truly is so paranoid is a reason to keep him away from society, whether it be in a mental hospital or a prison.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by PAAATE

The fact that he's a paranoid schizophrenic doesn't exactly come as a surprise. I mean, if you read what he's written and listen to what he says, the guy really does believe that the Norwegian Social Democrats collaborate with Muslims to eradicate Norwegian culture. That's delusional paranoia if I've ever seen it

And as a left-winger and friend of a few Muslims myself, I find it kinda... eerie.

But yeah, whatever his mental illness may be, that's obviously no excuse to let him go. On the contrary, the fact that this guy truly is so paranoid is a reason to keep him away from society, whether it be in a mental hospital or a prison.

There are some people in Sweden who believe the same thing, even if they're no ready to kill people. You've probably seen the Flashback Forum in Swedish, which has became a hangout for Nazis, racists and fascists in Sweden. I don't want to ban any opinion in a democratic state in Sweden even if I don't agree, but the Flashback Forum is not a place I prefer to hang.

[PAAATE]

Originally Posted by J 1982

There are some people in Sweden who believe the same thing, even if they're no ready to kill people. You've probably seen the Flashback Forum in Swedish, which has became a hangout for Nazis, racists and fascists in Sweden. I don't want to ban any opinion in a democratic state in Sweden even if I don't agree, but the Flashback Forum is not a place I prefer to hang.

I don't like bashing anyone either, but a lot of what's ventilated on Flashback aren't opinions, they're ****ing batshit crazy conspiracy-insanities. Umm, that wasn't bashing, right? Right?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by PAAATE

I don't like bashing anyone either, but a lot of what's ventilated on Flashback aren't opinions, they're ****ing batshit crazy conspiracy-insanities. Umm, that wasn't bashing, right? Right?

I hope you're right. Flashback Forum also holds som Libertarianism, how about them?

[KROW]

Reported yesterday:

NORWEGIAN far-right extremist Anders Breivik has shocked an Oslo courtroom with his descriptions of a massacre carried out on an island youth camp.

Survivors of the 22 July killings hugged each other and sobbed during his testimony in the city’s district court, which was broadcast to 17 other courtrooms where the relatives of the victims gathered.

Breivik went into detail as he explained how he shot panicked youngsters at point-blank range.

Sixty-nine people, mostly teenagers at an annual summer camp, were killed on Utoya island last summer.

Breivik admits carrying out 77 killings in total, but denies criminal charges, claiming his victims had betrayed Norway by embracing multi-culturalism. The 33-year-old said: “Some of them are completely paralysed. They cannot run. They stand totally still. This is something they never show on TV. It was very strange.”

Breivik has admitted to setting off a bomb in Oslo, killing eight people, before opening fire on the governing Labour Party’s annual youth camp on Utoya island.

Looking tense but focused, Breivik spoke calmly about the shooting rampage, starting from the moment he took a small ferry to Utoya, an island in a lake outside Oslo.

He was disguised as a policeman, carrying a rifle and a handgun. He also brought drinking water because he knew he would get a dry throat from the stress.

Breivik’s first two victims were Monica Boesei, one of the organisers of the camp, and off-duty police officer Trond Berntsen, who was on Utoya as a security guard.

“My whole body tried to revolt when I took the weapon in my hand. There were 100 voices in my head saying, ‘Don’t do it, don’t do it’,” Breivik said.

But he did – pointing his gun at Mr Berntsen’s head and pulling the trigger.

He shot Ms Boesei as she tried run away. Then, as they lay on the ground, he shot them both twice in the head.

Breivik said he could not remember large chunks of the time he spent on the island before surrendering to police commandos. Still, he recalled some of the shootings in great detail, including inside a cafe building were he shot his young victims as they pleaded for their lives.

Earlier, Breivik had revealed how he took to the internet to learn how to carry out a bombing-and-shooting rampage, studying attacks by al-Qaeda, Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh and the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Centre.

Yesterday, the fifth day of his trial, the confessed mass killer told a Norwegian court he paid close attention in particular to the World Trade Centre bombing in New York and McVeigh’s 1995 attack on an Oklahoma City government building, which killed 168 people and injured more than 600.

Breivik also said he had read more than 600 bomb-making guides.

He called al-Qaeda “the most successful revolutionary movement in the world” and said it should serve as an inspiration to far-right militants, even though their goals are different.

Breivik said of al-Qaeda: “I have studied each one of their actions, what they have done wrong, what they have done right. We want to create a European version of al-Qaeda.”

His matter-of-fact descriptions deeply disturbed families of the victims, most of whom were teenagers.

Christin Bjelland, a spokeswoman for a massacre support group, said outside court: “I’m going back to my hometown tonight and I live by the sea, so I have arranged with my husband, he’s going to drive me out to the sea, and I’m going to take a walk there and I’m going to scream my head off.”

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Quite chilling.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Unfortunately people like that have no sense of remorse for what they do. Ask Timothy McVeigh, William Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, or Ted Kaczynski.

[BubblyShell22]

Whoa. That's very scary, especially what he said about Al-Qaeda. This guy is truly f*cked up.

[Candy Kappa]

the youngest person he killed was 14.

the whole trial is a circus, and with Breivik's statement about training on Call of Duty, a new Video Game hate seems to be brewing, even got a local wannabe Jack Thompson on my local city (oh joy)

The Prosecutor even had a detailed monologue about World of Warcraft in the court. I know they want to bring everything up to the table, but gaming habits? having a 5-10 minute "commercial" about what WOW is?

Breivik's defense speech was mostly the same crap as his manifesto, couldn't even remeber it and kept his nose on his papers the whole read. He had 30 minutes, but was ill prepared and wanted more time. Let him spew his vile bile so we can get on with it and forget the man behind it all.

But him and Mullah Krekar (Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad in the same jail cell, one extreme Islamist terrorist and one extreme-right anti-Islam terrorist.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

the youngest person he killed was 14.

the whole trial is a circus, and with Breivik's statement about training on Call of Duty, a new Video Game hate seems to be brewing, even got a local wannabe Jack Thompson on my local city (oh joy)

The Prosecutor even had a detailed monologue about World of Warcraft in the court. I know they want to bring everything up to the table, but gaming habits? having a 5-10 minute "commercial" about what WOW is?

Breivik's defense speech was mostly the same crap as his manifesto, couldn't even remeber it and kept his nose on his papers the whole read. He had 30 minutes, but was ill prepared and wanted more time. Let him spew his vile bile so we can get on with it and forget the man behind it all.

But him and Mullah Krekar (Najmuddin Faraj Ahmad in the same jail cell, one extreme Islamist terrorist and one extreme-right anti-Islam terrorist.

The Columbine massacre in the USA years ago started a fear of video games. Not entirely irrational when quasi-realistic shooting and killing people games were coming out.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

The Columbine massacre in the USA years ago started a fear of video games. Not entirely irrational when quasi-realistic shooting and killing people games were coming out.

maybe not irrational ideas back in 99, but today?

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Check out these

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...rimary_schools

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ondary_schools

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ondary_schools

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_to_schools

Let's see, 1764, which video game did they play?