Save the Turtles. Keep them out of the Bay.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by unclanrhino

In the first live-action movie they screwed up with the origin (as told by the cartoon), saying Splinter was a pet rat. Why disconnect from the cartoon on that??? I think it's WAY more realistic and deep as told by the cartoon version; Splinter being a human that was hiding from the bad guy in America's sewers when he got mutated...

As TurtleTitan said the reason the 1990 movie differs from the Fred Wolf cartoon is because it's a loose adaption of the original Mirage comics books taking a few tropes from the very different cartoon. I think we'll have agree to disagree on which is more "realistic". A fair asessment would be that both takes are unrealistic.

Another movie along the same lines but transposed to modern sensibilities would be the best route to go down creatively and commercialy imo.

I seriously want this new one to be great, and I want to watch it in the theaters with my kids and call it so, but as far as I can tell the ONLY good thing that Bay brings to the table is his money.

I wouldn't go that far but he's not engendering faith in me so far.

[gobo]

The noobs are revolting!

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I turned out fine.

Oh, Zarius... Such a kidder...

[Leonardo87]

This is getting out of hand; people are now coming onto the forum just because of this movie.

[Dirty Blond]

Originally Posted by shezcrafti

This is almost embarrassing.

This is awesome.

Bay is a hack, pure and simple.

[The Stryker]

And most of the people that are going around whining like children are idiots.

Blatantly ignoring facts just to cry about something that is probably not happening at all.

[Powder]

Hypergroan

[Jester]

Is this what I looked like earlier this week? If so, I'd like to apologize. I didn't mean to come off as a total idiot.

[Spitfire]

A Facebook group would do a lot more then a badly photoshop'd picture with a pun.

[FearlessLeader]

Originally Posted by Jester

Is this what I looked like earlier this week? If so, I'd like to apologize. I didn't mean to come off as a total idiot.

No need to apologize you NEVER looked like this. Earlier this weeks things were still a lively fun debate. Now it's just starting to get embarrassing!

[Jester]

Thanks FL. Like I said the tide has turned from Anti-Alien Turtles to just Anti-Michael Bay, and that's not a place where I am. I have little gripe with the man. My gripe is with and will always be with the potential for this movie to completely rewrite the origin...

Man, I feel like I've typed the same 2 or 3 sentences almost a dozen times. It's getting very old.

[Ninjinister]

NOTHING needs saving, you mooks.

[FearlessLeader]

Originally Posted by Jester

Thanks FL. Like I said the tide has turned from Anti-Alien Turtles to just Anti-Michael Bay, and that's not a place where I am. I have little gripe with the man. My gripe is with and will always be with the potential for this movie to completely rewrite the origin...

Man, I feel like I've typed the same 2 or 3 sentences almost a dozen times. It's getting very old.

I am finding I don't even have a reason to reply in the movie section anymore because I feel like I just keep saying the same things over and over again about waiting for more information while others are screaming Bay is Hitler, it's getting to the point it's kind of giving me a headache

[Jester]

But, Ninji, Michael Bay is a childhood rapist. He came to my house to tell me as much when he moved in down the block. We must demonize him and make him the issue and not the fact that the origin may be changed for no good reason.

I mean it's totally going to happen, too. Michael Bay has never just said inflammatory things to get free press from ticked off fan boys.

IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD!!! EVERYONE SIGN ALL 11,347 FB PETITIONS!!

[unclanrhino]

Originally Posted by Michelangelo

No. I'm not a kid, I don't want a kiddy movie.

Well to quote the great Micheal Bay "kids are going to believe one day that these turtles actually do exist" He's selling it now as a "kids" movie.

We'll have to wait and see, but I'm willing to bet it ends up rated PG-13, and if so, for WHAT? A couple idiotic booby shots and a dog humping a mailbox? And really, is it worth it to you? Was it worth it to put that in Transformers? Would you take YOUR 7 year old daughter to see that and tell her "that's was realistic fun good time!"?? Is that 'more deep' or 'more realistic' to you? I don't get it. Was there stuff like that in Spider-man? How about Lord of the Rings

Movies can be good without it is all I'm saying, and Bay's opinion on "edgy" and "funny" is simply NOT for kids. Not for my kids.

My opinion is based on the fact it's a ninja turtle movie for kids, and Bay is going to disappoint the many morally-sound parents who loved the cartoons.

[Jester]

The PG-13 rating tells you as a parent if you should or shouldn't take your 7 year old. If you feel she's ready, let her go. If not, don't it's as simple as that. But TMNT isn't a franchise just for kids (though it will be pimped to the nth degree to sell movie tie-in toys, clothes, and backpacks) and the movie has to cover both those people who are like me and will be pushing 30 when this hits theaters and the "kids" that Michael Bay mentions. Heck...there are still even kids from 13 years old on.

Heck, if you have to censor the PG movies from the 90's for your kid, then I'm sure this movie won't be for you.

[unclanrhino]

Originally Posted by Galactus

As TurtleTitan said the reason the 1990 movie differs from the Fred Wolf cartoon is because it's a loose adaption of the original Mirage comics books taking a few tropes from the very different cartoon. I think we'll have agree to disagree on which is more "realistic". A fair asessment would be that both takes are unrealistic.

Another movie along the same lines but transposed to modern sensibilities would be the best route to go down creatively and commercialy imo.]

I concur, and thanks for the info on the comics. I don't have any memories with the comics, just the old cartoons and books. Good to know, and I do apologize to the elite fans if I'm coming off as a n00b lol. I just hate what Bay did with my beloved Transformers! Here's to hoping the turtle movie is good through & through.

[Candy Kappa]

Coming home from work all tired, this thread was a life saver. Hilarious reading it, just hilarious.

I'm not gonna be that guy, lecturing about comic characters history (although I feel like I often am that guy) but at least research a bit before writing left and right what is the original

Spoiler:

That's how I learned that the wife of the Phantom in Lee Falk's The Phantom have been given different name in the Norwegian comic version, completely confusing me as a kid when I saw the movie.

Originally Posted by unclanrhino

Was there stuff like that in Spider-man? How about Lord of the Rings

Not to defend Bayformers 2 electric boogaloo, but are those movies really a good example, I'm pretty sure Mary Jane got some see through clothes in the rain of the first movie, and LOTR got a huge on-screen death counter. Unless you are one of those people that think death and violence are a-okay, while some cleavage and nipple slip are an act of utter evil.

[unclanrhino]

Originally Posted by Jester

Heck, if you have to censor the PG movies from the 90's for your kid, then I'm sure this movie won't be for you.

True, good point. Probably not. (Which is why I'm pissed.)

And if the script and direction of Transformers was for YOU, then I'll leave you to it. I didn't realize there were so many Bay lovers....

But really, I would be bringing my family of 5 to see it in 3D, which is darn close to $100, then buying it on DVD & BD, and all the toys that go with it, while lonely people without kids just looking for a dog-humping cleavage-thumping good ol' time, bring in, what? Just the one ticket...

Just for fun --
What does this smiley remind you of?:
1) Slow-mo cleavage.
2) Dogs humping mailboxes.
3) When I was a kid in the late 80's, the TMNT cartoons were good wholesome shows for KIDS. And Micheal Bay suxorz.

[Hero]

And... Relax...

[Killer Moth]

Originally Posted by Hero

And... Relax...

Exactly. Boy, I pick a fine time to join the forum. Heh. You guys always this lively?

I don't want to dump on Bay, but admittedly, that slogan or Subject line is kinda catchy. Even if it reminds me of "Save the cheerleader, save the world."