What should the first cartoon be called now?

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Jester

I'll just leave this here...

Now that, I like.

The more I hang around the internet, the more I feel like everybody is just turning into Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons... with no self-awareness.

[SherlockJr]

I call it the OT for "Original Toon"; when I'm talking about it with a non-Turtle fan, I just call it the 80s cartoon.

[sdp]

Well the 2k3 show was often called the NT here for "new" toon and sometimes 2k3, only towards the end of the run the NT was was mostly called 2k3 instead of NT. OT "old/original toon" always sounded bad to me. I'd much prefer naming it by date, TMNT 87/88 short and simple. That is also the time when the year the show starts to take place in. To me the debate should be whether we call it TMNT 87 or 88, technically it started in 87 but it was during mid December 1987, and Turtles Forever calls them TMNT 88 and that's really the year most people even knew what the turtles were, however wikipedia and most fans refer to the show as the 87 cartoon. I've noticed more people calling it the FW cartoon but I think 88 fits better.

[Xav]

Shouldn't we call it by the year it came out, and not the year someone knew who the turtles were?

[Oculus Orbus]

I've always used OT, as in "Original Toon". I don't like it being referred to as Original Series.

[rufus]

I just usually call it Fred Wolf turtles or the 80's cartoon turtles.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by Xav

Shouldn't we call it by the year it came out, and not the year someone knew who the turtles were?

Well was the OT originally supposed to come out in 88? Why are they called TMNT 88 in Turtles Forever. I'm all for them being 87 but if they're officially considered 88..

[Killer Moth]

Originally Posted by mikeandraph87

I always called it the '87 series/cartoon. When I think of it to myself I think Definitive Version. '87 series/cartoon work for those who may disagree and '03 series/cartoon works for the second cartoon. That works when identifying specific versions.

Yes, I usually defer to it as the 87 series, as my shorthand. I suppose I could call it "TOS," but I usually use that for Star Trek, as someone else cited. Although, I have noticed the "Fred Wolf toon" term is getting more and more traction, these days.

Or, perhaps, try "1st animated Turtles series," though, that can be annoying and lengthy to type over and over, especially if you're in a rush. Maybe "1st toon" as a compromise? Although, whomever said "Series 1," I do like, as well.

Edit: Maybe so, oldmanwinters, as the lack of self-awareness or the high amount of hyper-sensitivity will never be lost on the internet-tubes (thanks to the new generation of Comic Guy Fans). Or, that comes with age, as I take myself far less seriously online than I was, even a few years ago. Takes time.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Now that, I like.

The more I hang around the internet, the more I feel like everybody is just turning into Comic Book Guy from The Simpsons... with no self-awareness.

Now,that I had a chance to watch the clip I have to agree with him and agree on pretty much everything he said. The other media does wonders for comics and that is pretty much what I like in TMNT aside from a few characters like Venus.

KM,I don't think of it as FW because it was MFS during its production. With that in mind it makes it simplier to go with the year it started and say it as that cartoon/series. My few TMNT friends and I say it that way in conversation. I will probably say the '12 cartoon/series as I already started in offline conversations about it.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I thought that was kind of the purpose of this thread, though. "What should the Fred Wolf cartoon be called, en masse?" That was the implication I got from the original poster... and that kinda transcends the Drome.

i dunno if people outide the Drome wouldn't get that OT stands for Original Toon and not Original Turtles, specially if they only know the old show. They would probably get OT over Fred Wolf Cartoon or any of the other suggestions cept maybe 80's TMNT Show

now for people who know zip about TMNT that's another matter, they'd likely not care

[gobo]

I'd like to add "ya mama" to the list.

Really dumb, unnecessary question, IMO.

[BubblyShell22]

Call it whatever the hell you want. How's that?

But I refer to it as the 80's series.

[shezcrafti]

Originally Posted by TMNT_Canadian

i dunno if people outide the Drome wouldn't get that OT stands for Original Toon and not Original Turtles, specially if they only know the old show. They would probably get OT over Fred Wolf Cartoon or any of the other suggestions cept maybe 80's TMNT Show

now for people who know zip about TMNT that's another matter, they'd likely not care

Speaking as someone who's a relative newcomer around these parts, it took me a few days to understand that "OT" meant "original toon." Hope this is helpful feedback.

I agree with those saying the shows should be referenced by year. It's how we differentiate films with the same name/title (e.g. Fright Night 1985 vs. Fright Night 2011); why not do the same for TV shows?

[Nintendophile]

I'd have to agree with the people suggesting to refer to the shows by year. '80s Series for the "Original Animated Series", 2K3 Series for the "Second Animated Series", and 2012 Series for the "Current Series" or "Nick Series". It just seems to be the most descriptive, and makes the most sense.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by sdp

Well was the OT originally supposed to come out in 88? Why are they called TMNT 88 in Turtles Forever. I'm all for them being 87 but if they're officially considered 88..

I think it's because the 5-part mini-series came out in 87, but the show didn't start it's official run until 88.

[gobo]

The pilot miniseries was December 28, 1987 through January 01, 1988. So, three days after Christmas this year is the 25th anniversary of the OT.

[Xav]

Actually it was December 14, 1987 through December 18, 1987.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Call it whatever the hell you want. How's that?

Seriously? OK, great, how about "Gigantic pile of steaming..." oh, right. I'd better just bite my tongue.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Seriously? OK, great, how about "Gigantic pile of steaming..." oh, right. I'd better just bite my tongue.

Once upon a time, Andrew. Once upon a time...

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Xav

Actually it was December 14, 1987 through December 18, 1987.

Says who??