For All the Naysayers, TMNT is going to be on XBOX... - Page 2

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-14-2003, 07:59 PM

A lot of what people here have been saying is true though, and not just ignorant thoughts or whatever you prefer to call them. Of what we know so far it will be sold on 5 systems: PC, GBA, X-box, Ps2, and GC. If they dedicate the same amount of game units for each system (which I think will happen between the consoles but not with the PC version), then each system owns 20% of the games. Having known Konami finds it difficult, costly, and not very time effective to make games for X-box, it might get the least sales. (Although I personally feel that the PC will get the worst by far unless it has a multi-player feature) So yes, it will be more sales overall, that is stating the obvious though. The problem is that if it doesn't sell well then a huge chunk of the game units they paid for go to waste, thus losing a lot of money. Again, most kids have GC or Ps2, their will be a much higher demand for units with GC and Ps2, if there is only a 20% supply though, that would mean Konami having to pay more money than it should have had to. I probably stretched this into some wierd scenario, but I don't know how 3rd party companies deal with 3 different consoles, so I made my own presumption.

*Dane E5R* · 05-14-2003, 08:06 PM

There is a difference between fact and "No ones dissing..its just common sense and a known fact Xbox sucks..=x"

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-14-2003, 08:16 PM

My point went right over your head...I never said it is true that X-box sucks, I said it was true that X-box PROBABLY won't get as many sales, there is a great chance.

*Dane E5R* · 05-14-2003, 09:33 PM

I never denied that you had a point. I defended the XBox..The other guy said it was common knowledge that the XBox sucked..Then I said that was an ignorant statement. Then you said "A lot of what people here have been saying is true though, and not just ignorant thoughts or whatever you prefer to call them." I don't recall ever saying that they were all wrong.. All I remember is pointing out blatant ignorance.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 05-14-2003, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gwgtrunks

Most adults, other than the hardcore fans of TMNT who own X-Box pry woulden't be caught dead buying the game.

Well, then those who don't buy it because they see TMNT as a "kid" thing on the whole, then they're the dumb ones!

*Kid Icarus* · 05-14-2003, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by impetus

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Originally Posted by Pidgeot018

What I'm really craving, however, is a compilation of Konami's old TMNT games, including the legendary Arcade Game.

You can do that on DreamCast using emulators

A lot of people can't get dreamcasts anymore though, and even if they can getting the emulator and cd's made for it would be a lot more trouble than slapping down 50 bucks for a single disc that could save game data (options, scores, times died, or what ever else would be worth keeping track of).

Peanut · 05-14-2003, 10:11 PM

I don't think Konami would be stupid enough to release the same amount of games for X-Box as they do for GC and PS2. I'm sure they'll have a limited supply for X-Box and if the game is in demand they'll ship more. Simple as that.

impetus · 05-15-2003, 10:23 AM

Dreamcasts are pretty easy to find, in the US anyhow, if not locally then on the internet. And cheap too!

Pidgeot018 · 05-16-2003, 08:36 AM

I guess I should've said a LEGIT compilation.

Krangfan · 05-16-2003, 03:58 PM

I can't wait for the new game, and I'm gonna get it on Xbox. With Xbox I usually get the multi-console games, and for GameCube I get the Nintendo games.

(btw people, it's not X-Box!!! It's Xbox!!!! Stop spelling it wrong!)

*tOkKa* · 05-16-2003, 04:13 PM

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.. news is fine by me..

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-16-2003, 04:34 PM

Another patch?!?!

**Nturtle** · 05-16-2003, 08:50 PM

Yeah, death to microsoft!!

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-16-2003, 09:14 PM

That is taking it a bit far...death to X-Box is good enough, Microsoft created Windows, which is helpful most of the time...

Krangfan · 05-16-2003, 09:18 PM

Please! If you're gonna diss something, at least spell it correctly! It's Xbox, not X-Box!

Ninja Tiptup · 05-21-2003, 06:38 PM

Pidgeot018 I feel your pain man. I'm dieing for a compilation!

The Arcade Game, Turtles in Time (arcade version), The Manhattan Project, and The Hyperstone Heist would be awsome! All four with the super awsome cartoony arcade graphics (all with the same graphics I mean) and four player support for each. The game would be a shoe-in for an exclusive for Gamecube or GCN and Xbox. It doesn't seem to fit PS2 IMO. Konami has released Contra, Castlevania, Bomerman (by Hudson of course), and Arcade collections. So why not TMNT? Everyone loves those games (everyone here at least). The "legendary" arcade game got 3rd on G4's greatest arcade games of all time list (as voted by the fans on the Filterater). Only behind Street Fighter 2 (second) and Pac Man (first).

If nothing else Konami should release the first arcade game for GBA (or Turtles in Time) and add in 4 player link play. That would be well worth a purchase.

I've wanted a four player TMNT game since the N64 days. Why wont they give it to me?!?!? Ah well... I can dream.

As for the game being on Xbox. I wish it wasn't because it makes it less "special" being on everything. I agree that more people should get to play the game, but PC, GCN, and PS2 was enough IMO. It's not going to do wonders for the demo-graphic (as others have stated) and will eventually end up costing Konami money (like most of their Xbox games have). I do know quite a few "kids' that own Xboxes though so I wouldn't count it out just yet. Even so the GCN and PS2 version will sell the most and the Xbox and PC ones will sell just a little below. I can see the Harry Potter PC gamer croud picking up TMNT for the PC.

Though the Xbox one will not be different from the PS2, GCN, or PC games. They will all be the SAME. Look at the screen shots guys they are no different from one another. Konami would mention it if they were. TMNT was built for the PS2 (like most licensed games) and was ported to the other consoles and the PC. The only different game out of the bunch will be the dramatically different (for obvious reasons) GBA version. So it doesn't really matter which one you get. They're the same game folks. Because of that fact I plan to pick up the GCN, because I like it best (but first I need to get either that or a PS2).

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-21-2003, 07:30 PM

Actually it will look different...you are seeing screen shots from different systems on your same computer, you are seeing the computer graphics. If you actually get the game for both GC and X-Box then you will notice the difference. If it was the same, there would only be one console, and PC.

Ninja Tiptup · 05-21-2003, 10:20 PM

Why? Third party games come out all the time for every system and look different. What's the difference? I really don't see anything. They aren't system specific changes and if you arguing this for Xbox then let it be said that GCN can put out just as great a performance. Besides a hard drive and more memory the Xbox has nothing on the GCN (well except Xbox Live I guess).

If they were more console specific. Then why does Konami have only one site for all four? That could be that they are just lazy though...

**Karpo_007** · 05-22-2003, 04:46 AM

Most noticable diffrence is between PC and consoles. All of scree shot I've seen so far look pretty much same to me.

*Dane E5R* · 05-22-2003, 11:13 AM

You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.

05-15-2003, 10:23 AM	#28
impetus Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 978	Dreamcasts are pretty easy to find, in the US anyhow, if not locally then on the internet. And cheap too! __________________

05-16-2003, 08:36 AM	#29
Pidgeot018 Random Punk Join Date: May 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 29	I guess I should've said a LEGIT compilation. __________________ "We can't ignore the danger, we must conquer it." -Optimus Prime, TRANSFORMERS: Generation 1

05-16-2003, 03:58 PM	#30
Krangfan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 434	I can't wait for the new game, and I'm gonna get it on Xbox. With Xbox I usually get the multi-console games, and for GameCube I get the Nintendo games. (btw people, it's not X-Box!!! It's Xbox!!!! Stop spelling it wrong!) __________________ "Home is where you hang your hat" -Krang's favorite phrase Krang owns!

05-16-2003, 04:13 PM	#31
tOkKa tOkKie-Pokie,puddin'n PIE Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pajamas out of the water on the elephant was sweating a lemon. Posts: 1,729	-->> .. news is fine by me.. __________________ 666 !!terrible2z /GGM!!/T.G.R.I./ ..モンスターのカメを解読しなさい。

05-16-2003, 08:50 PM	#33
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	Yeah, death to microsoft!! __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

05-14-2003, 07:59 PM	#21
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	A lot of what people here have been saying is true though, and not just ignorant thoughts or whatever you prefer to call them. Of what we know so far it will be sold on 5 systems: PC, GBA, X-box, Ps2, and GC. If they dedicate the same amount of game units for each system (which I think will happen between the consoles but not with the PC version), then each system owns 20% of the games. Having known Konami finds it difficult, costly, and not very time effective to make games for X-box, it might get the least sales. (Although I personally feel that the PC will get the worst by far unless it has a multi-player feature) So yes, it will be more sales overall, that is stating the obvious though. The problem is that if it doesn't sell well then a huge chunk of the game units they paid for go to waste, thus losing a lot of money. Again, most kids have GC or Ps2, their will be a much higher demand for units with GC and Ps2, if there is only a 20% supply though, that would mean Konami having to pay more money than it should have had to. I probably stretched this into some wierd scenario, but I don't know how 3rd party companies deal with 3 different consoles, so I made my own presumption.

05-14-2003, 08:06 PM	#22
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	There is a difference between fact and "No ones dissing..its just common sense and a known fact Xbox sucks..=x"

05-14-2003, 08:16 PM	#23
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	My point went right over your head...I never said it is true that X-box sucks, I said it was true that X-box PROBABLY won't get as many sales, there is a great chance.

05-14-2003, 09:33 PM	#24
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	I never denied that you had a point. I defended the XBox..The other guy said it was common knowledge that the XBox sucked..Then I said that was an ignorant statement. Then you said "A lot of what people here have been saying is true though, and not just ignorant thoughts or whatever you prefer to call them." I don't recall ever saying that they were all wrong.. All I remember is pointing out blatant ignorance.

05-14-2003, 10:11 PM	#27
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I don't think Konami would be stupid enough to release the same amount of games for X-Box as they do for GC and PS2. I'm sure they'll have a limited supply for X-Box and if the game is in demand they'll ship more. Simple as that.

05-16-2003, 04:34 PM	#32
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Another patch?!?!

05-16-2003, 09:14 PM	#34
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	That is taking it a bit far...death to X-Box is good enough, Microsoft created Windows, which is helpful most of the time...

05-16-2003, 09:18 PM	#35
Krangfan Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In a house Posts: 434	Please! If you're gonna diss something, at least spell it correctly! It's Xbox, not X-Box! __________________ "Home is where you hang your hat" -Krang's favorite phrase Krang owns!

05-21-2003, 06:38 PM	#36
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	Pidgeot018 I feel your pain man. I'm dieing for a compilation! The Arcade Game, Turtles in Time (arcade version), The Manhattan Project, and The Hyperstone Heist would be awsome! All four with the super awsome cartoony arcade graphics (all with the same graphics I mean) and four player support for each. The game would be a shoe-in for an exclusive for Gamecube or GCN and Xbox. It doesn't seem to fit PS2 IMO. Konami has released Contra, Castlevania, Bomerman (by Hudson of course), and Arcade collections. So why not TMNT? Everyone loves those games (everyone here at least). The "legendary" arcade game got 3rd on G4's greatest arcade games of all time list (as voted by the fans on the Filterater). Only behind Street Fighter 2 (second) and Pac Man (first). If nothing else Konami should release the first arcade game for GBA (or Turtles in Time) and add in 4 player link play. That would be well worth a purchase. I've wanted a four player TMNT game since the N64 days. Why wont they give it to me?!?!? Ah well... I can dream. As for the game being on Xbox. I wish it wasn't because it makes it less "special" being on everything. I agree that more people should get to play the game, but PC, GCN, and PS2 was enough IMO. It's not going to do wonders for the demo-graphic (as others have stated) and will eventually end up costing Konami money (like most of their Xbox games have). I do know quite a few "kids' that own Xboxes though so I wouldn't count it out just yet. Even so the GCN and PS2 version will sell the most and the Xbox and PC ones will sell just a little below. I can see the Harry Potter PC gamer croud picking up TMNT for the PC. Though the Xbox one will not be different from the PS2, GCN, or PC games. They will all be the SAME. Look at the screen shots guys they are no different from one another. Konami would mention it if they were. TMNT was built for the PS2 (like most licensed games) and was ported to the other consoles and the PC. The only different game out of the bunch will be the dramatically different (for obvious reasons) GBA version. So it doesn't really matter which one you get. They're the same game folks. Because of that fact I plan to pick up the GCN, because I like it best (but first I need to get either that or a PS2). __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

05-21-2003, 07:30 PM	#37
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Actually it will look different...you are seeing screen shots from different systems on your same computer, you are seeing the computer graphics. If you actually get the game for both GC and X-Box then you will notice the difference. If it was the same, there would only be one console, and PC.

05-21-2003, 10:20 PM	#38
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	Why? Third party games come out all the time for every system and look different. What's the difference? I really don't see anything. They aren't system specific changes and if you arguing this for Xbox then let it be said that GCN can put out just as great a performance. Besides a hard drive and more memory the Xbox has nothing on the GCN (well except Xbox Live I guess). If they were more console specific. Then why does Konami have only one site for all four? That could be that they are just lazy though... __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

05-22-2003, 04:46 AM	#39
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Most noticable diffrence is between PC and consoles. All of scree shot I've seen so far look pretty much same to me.

05-22-2003, 11:13 AM	#40
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	You guys are killing me.. XBox has nothing on the Gamecube except hard drive space? That really makes me think that you haven't even been near an XBox. I sat in EB a few days ago with my buds talking to an employee for a good hour or so talking about the next gen systems, trust me guys, this dude was like the Brodie (Mallrats) of video games. XBox IS the most powerful, AND the nicest looking system. Metroid Prime, sure, that was impressive, but go download the Halo 2 demo and tell me that that doesn't impress you. I really dare you to. Oh, and all you people that claim that you'd rather wait for a game to hit the PC than get an XBox, well...Look at the screen shots of the XBox version of Halo, and then the PC version, and tell me they look exactly the same. Now bare in mind people that I own both a Gamecube and an XBox, and I've got a couple of the same games for both systems just for comparison.. Believe me when I say that there WILL be a difference in how these games look. And XBox will no doubt be superior. However, the game play and controls are what I'm interested in seeing.