Things change (and how the TMNT property is sort of like Batman)

[Candy Kappa]

There's the Terror Bears

I'd love to see them appear in the new TMNT show

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Vincent

So, there was the comic, then there was the show, then there was the comic based on the show, then there was the movie trilogy, then a Japanese miniseries, then another show, then yet another show, then a comic based on that show, then another movie, and a movie based on two shows, and now there's a new comic and there's gonna be a new show and then a movie reboot.

You have a way with words, heh.

But yes there is a decent parallel.

Mirage Comics : Batman/Detective Comics
Fred Wolf Cartoon : Adam West Show
Archie Adventures Comics : Silver Age Batman Comics
Live Action Triology : First 3 Movies
Next Mutation : Batman & Robin (movie)
4kids Cartoon : Batman TAS
Fast Forward : Batman Beyond
Nickelodeon Cartoon : Brave & The Bold/Beware The Batman
IDW Comics : New 52 Comics

It gets a little muddled beyond that, I guess the 07 movie could kinda be the equivalent to "The Batman". Still hoping Turtles can get a "Batman Begins" trilogy.

[Genesis]

Even more of a parallel between 2k3 and Batman: TAS. They were both individually used as the basis and primary example for animation textbooks. They're both extremely respected within the medium, it seems.

The difference beween Fast Forward and Batman Beyond is that Beyond totally worked, beyond all reasoning. Just by its pemise, it doesn't sound like anything special, but man, was that a well done show.

Now, we just need a TMNT equivalent to DC's recent animated movies, like Under the Red Hood.

[Mr.Turtle]

Yogi bear is awesome. why the movie sucks so much?

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Genesis

Now, we just need a TMNT equivalent to DC's recent animated movies, like Under the Red Hood.

I completely agree with this. I'd love to see that happen. Question is how likely Viacom is to make that happen.

[Mr.Turtle]

yeah that d be great Under the Red Hood is awesome!

[Cipher]

While I totally agree, I thought this parallel had been evident for years.

Anyway, yeah, it's part of why I'm kind of welcoming the 1987-inspired take the Nick show seems to have. I'm ready for that version of Turtles to come back for a little while.

Originally Posted by Genesis

Now, we just need a TMNT equivalent to DC's recent animated movies, like Under the Red Hood.

Actually, I'd say the first thing we need would be a high-profile, audience-pleasing version of the "darker" Turtles. That's probably the biggest difference between the two franchises. As fans, we've seen the ebb and flow, but nothing other than a silly TMNT has ever really been promoted; we've never had our Tim Burton movie. (A new movie and the greater availability of Mirage and IDW trades are a step in the right direction though, finally.)

Originally Posted by Genesis

Even more of a parallel between 2k3 and Batman: TAS. They were both individually used as the basis and primary example for animation textbooks. They're both extremely respected within the medium, it seems.

Also, wait, what? Like, actual textbooks?

[Mr.Turtle]

^how can u be both dark n high profile?

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

^how can u be both dark n high profile?

Batman Begins is dark and high profile. Hell, compared to the 1960s TV show, Tim Burton's Batman was dark and high profile. High profile meaning widely marketed, widely seen and widely respected in its time.

I think the way to pull that off with TMNT is probably to make a movie that takes more or less the tone of the Mirage comics, and introduces the Technodrome, Bebop, Rocksteady and Krang. That way, the general public will get the elements they expect, in a context that introduces to them the tone of the original comic. I've heard lots of people say of the first movie "yeah, it was cool, but I wanted to see the Technodrome". So I'd say the smartest thing is to deliver that chocolate, with a nice creamy center of emotional realism and well done violence.

[Mr.Turtle]

is he? but he is very low profile most of the time.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

is he? but he is very low profile most of the time.

High profile project, not high profile character. Are you trolling, or is this a reading comprehension thing?

[Mr.Turtle]

was that u who said "high profile dark turtles"?

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

was that u who said "high profile dark turtles"?

No, but I understood what it meant. The turtles wouldn't be high profile, but they would be in a high profile movie.

[Mr.Turtle]

can i freak out now?

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Mr.Turtle

can i freak out now?

If you'd like.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Vincent

The attempted rape of Tang Shen?

It seemed like Nagi was trying to kill her not rape her.

[shezcrafti]

Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

I mean I didn't just say ALL FOUR OF THE TURTLES seemed to have a bit of a crush on April. So, no, not Raph.

I disagree. I think especially Raph had a crush on April.

[Slade]

Originally Posted by shezcrafti

I disagree. I think especially Raph had a crush on April.

He did. I just had to be a smartass for someone.

[Vincent]

Originally Posted by Xav

It seemed like Nagi was trying to kill her not rape her.

The way I remember it, that was after she refused him. I might be misremembering, it has been a while.

[Genesis]

Originally Posted by Cipher

Also, wait, what? Like, actual textbooks?

Yep, actual college books used as animators' curriculum in the Art Institutes. I don't know the titles to either of them (I'm a video photographer, not an animator), but each book used one of the respective cartoons as reference throughout the entire thing.