Best first episode of a TMNT cartoon? - Page 2

*Donatello19* · 09-30-2012, 12:53 PM

Everyone is just saying turtle tracks for nostalgia, in my opinion, rise of the turtles is the best

*MikeandRaph87* · 09-30-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

Everyone is just saying turtle tracks for nostalgia, in my opinion, rise of the turtles is the best

Actually I thought Rise of The Turtles votes might be driven by immediate "wow" that might not hold up. Things Change might have nostalgia for some as well if it gets votes. I voted Turtle Tracks with no nostalgia just that I am simply pleased how it set things up. Each of the three have their merits. The best part of Things Change was the turtles fighting a gang, foot soldiers, and mousers in the same episode giving a sample of threats to come. Rise of The Turtles does that in a similar yet less effective manner though as I said that could change as time goes on.

*Donatello19* · 09-30-2012, 01:03 PM

Turtle Tracks was really great for it's time, and is still pretty good even today, but I think rise of the turtles introduces the characters better, but rise of the turtles WAS an hour long, so, idk. Both are great, the only one i didn't like was things change.

*CyberCubed* · 09-30-2012, 01:22 PM

Rise of the Turtles was very funny and entertaining, but it has very stiff competition.

Both Turtle Tracks and Things Changed worked wonderfully for introducing both the show and the Turtles to the audience. If anything you can say all the first episodes of all 3 series have been equally great.

*Candy Kappa* · 09-30-2012, 02:25 PM

Rise of the Turtles, a solid second would be Turtle Tracks

Darth Knuckles · 10-01-2012, 08:17 AM

I'd have to go with "Turtle Tracks". I was happily impressed with the new show though. I loved all of the hints of the other series as already mentioned. "That was us", (seemingly) where the mutagen's from, calling it mutagen, the turtles' origin, Splinter being a human, the pizza, the Kraang, Channel 6 News....oh yeah....and Rob Paulsen! I still have trouble though remembering that his voice is now Donnie's! When they're all talking and the camera isn't on one of them I still have to remind myself of that.

I'm really excited to see what the show continues to do in the future!

Icegaze · 10-01-2012, 09:41 AM

1. Rise of the Turtles
2. Things Change

3. Turtle Tracks

In that order.

SwordofTengu · 10-05-2012, 06:42 PM

Turtle Tracks may be goofy, but in under half an hour it gives the backstory, introduces April, Shredder, etc, and has an awesome fight scene.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-06-2012, 12:22 AM

That's pretty much how I feel, a lot of the OT hasn't aged well but I still feel Turtle Tracks did the best job in explaining exactly who all these characters were, what their motivation was, and set up future stories while still being self-contained. It told a lot more story in a lot less time than the other two, which is difficult. At the end of Things Change and Rise of the Turtles, you still have questions (or at least a few that you might not know the answers to if, say, you had *never* seen any incarnation of TMNT before). By the end of Turtle Tracks you pretty much know everything you need to know.

The other two were able to explore some different tones and character moments, to great benefit, but neither feels as "Iconic" to me as the original. I don't think it would be too out of line to say the OT peaked with its very first episode.

DF619 · 10-07-2012, 01:59 AM

Rise of the Turtles is the best one with Turtle Tracks being a clear second. I just thought the first episode of the Nickelodeon show really did a lot in regards to introductions of the characters and setting up the rest of the season by showing things like Don's crush on April, the Kraang & mutagen/ooze, and the Shredder.

Turtle Tracks will always hold a place in my TMNT fan heart, but Rise of the Turtles really blew me away.

Fugitoid Jones · 10-09-2012, 04:26 AM

This was a really tough decision for me, but I went with Turtle Tracks. I really feel that the initial Turtle Mania wouldn't have been as big as it was if the cartoon wasn't such a strong hit, and I've gotta figure that the show wouldn't have been as big as it was had it not had a terrific first episode.

All three episodes I thought were outstanding, however. I still really enjoy Things Change, and Rise made me fall in love with this new version of the TMNT.

mikey22 · 10-09-2012, 05:13 PM

it has to be turtle tracks

the wise crackin jokes the great fight w/ foot soldiers all the funny moments

even my gramma lauged at the old lady monstersss ahhhhhh back off or your history scum!

mikey22 · 10-09-2012, 05:22 PM

question here is

the full hour of rise of the turles?? if the full hour gets credit then i would take it slighlty since its longer time

Ninja Tiptup · 10-09-2012, 05:37 PM

In retrospect, Things Change was a comparatively weak episode for TMNT 2003. The VAs were just starting to get their roles down so the acting wasn't particularly strong and compared to everything that happens in Turtle Tracks and Rise of the Turtles it had a lot less story to tell. It didn't have bad pacing and it could be argued trying to cram in more would have hurt the pacing but it's just not as thrilling as Turtle Tracks or Rise of the Turtles.

If you want to rate Rise of the Turtles on just the first half hour it's already more entertaining than Things Change but falls below Turtle Tracks. If you give Rise of the Turtles the full hour (well 45 minutes or something) then Rise of the Turtles quite possibly beats out even Turtle Tracks for a better story, nothing that dates it horribly and more fleshed out characterization of each turtle. As far as an 80s cartoon goes Turtle Tracks is very entertaining and has pretty good writing for a pre-Batman: TAS era action cartoon and as far as I'm concerned it's always going to be great but I'm going to have to give the nod to Rise of the Turtles.

Avatar Yuffie · 10-09-2012, 05:56 PM

Ugh. I can't choose. D:

View Poll Results: Best series opener?
Turtle Tracks (original cartoon)	28	50.91%
Things Change (4kids series)	9	16.36%
Rise of the Turtles (Nick cartoon)	18	32.73%
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09-30-2012, 02:25 PM	#25
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Rise of the Turtles, a solid second would be Turtle Tracks __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

10-01-2012, 08:17 AM	#26
Darth Knuckles Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mutani-Isle Posts: 702	I'd have to go with "Turtle Tracks". I was happily impressed with the new show though. I loved all of the hints of the other series as already mentioned. "That was us", (seemingly) where the mutagen's from, calling it mutagen, the turtles' origin, Splinter being a human, the pizza, the Kraang, Channel 6 News....oh yeah....and Rob Paulsen! I still have trouble though remembering that his voice is now Donnie's! When they're all talking and the camera isn't on one of them I still have to remind myself of that. I'm really excited to see what the show continues to do in the future! __________________ "Shredder, what have you done!?!" - Tiger Claw (Annihilation: Earth!) Last edited by Darth Knuckles; 10-01-2012 at 08:59 AM.

10-01-2012, 09:41 AM	#27
Icegaze Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 283	1. Rise of the Turtles 2. Things Change 3. Turtle Tracks In that order. __________________

10-09-2012, 04:26 AM	#31
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	This was a really tough decision for me, but I went with Turtle Tracks. I really feel that the initial Turtle Mania wouldn't have been as big as it was if the cartoon wasn't such a strong hit, and I've gotta figure that the show wouldn't have been as big as it was had it not had a terrific first episode. All three episodes I thought were outstanding, however. I still really enjoy Things Change, and Rise made me fall in love with this new version of the TMNT. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius

09-30-2012, 12:53 PM	#21
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	Everyone is just saying turtle tracks for nostalgia, in my opinion, rise of the turtles is the best

09-30-2012, 01:03 PM	#23
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	Turtle Tracks was really great for it's time, and is still pretty good even today, but I think rise of the turtles introduces the characters better, but rise of the turtles WAS an hour long, so, idk. Both are great, the only one i didn't like was things change.

09-30-2012, 01:22 PM	#24
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,832	Rise of the Turtles was very funny and entertaining, but it has very stiff competition. Both Turtle Tracks and Things Changed worked wonderfully for introducing both the show and the Turtles to the audience. If anything you can say all the first episodes of all 3 series have been equally great.

10-05-2012, 06:42 PM	#28
SwordofTengu Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 102	Turtle Tracks may be goofy, but in under half an hour it gives the backstory, introduces April, Shredder, etc, and has an awesome fight scene.

10-06-2012, 12:22 AM	#29
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	That's pretty much how I feel, a lot of the OT hasn't aged well but I still feel Turtle Tracks did the best job in explaining exactly who all these characters were, what their motivation was, and set up future stories while still being self-contained. It told a lot more story in a lot less time than the other two, which is difficult. At the end of Things Change and Rise of the Turtles, you still have questions (or at least a few that you might not know the answers to if, say, you had never seen any incarnation of TMNT before). By the end of Turtle Tracks you pretty much know everything you need to know. The other two were able to explore some different tones and character moments, to great benefit, but neither feels as "Iconic" to me as the original. I don't think it would be too out of line to say the OT peaked with its very first episode.

10-07-2012, 01:59 AM	#30
DF619 Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: SD Posts: 130	Rise of the Turtles is the best one with Turtle Tracks being a clear second. I just thought the first episode of the Nickelodeon show really did a lot in regards to introductions of the characters and setting up the rest of the season by showing things like Don's crush on April, the Kraang & mutagen/ooze, and the Shredder. Turtle Tracks will always hold a place in my TMNT fan heart, but Rise of the Turtles really blew me away.

10-09-2012, 05:13 PM	#32
mikey22 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: IL Posts: 682	it has to be turtle tracks the wise crackin jokes the great fight w/ foot soldiers all the funny moments even my gramma lauged at the old lady monstersss ahhhhhh back off or your history scum!

10-09-2012, 05:22 PM	#33
mikey22 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: IL Posts: 682	question here is the full hour of rise of the turles?? if the full hour gets credit then i would take it slighlty since its longer time

10-09-2012, 05:37 PM	#34
Ninja Tiptup Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Washington Posts: 1,451	In retrospect, Things Change was a comparatively weak episode for TMNT 2003. The VAs were just starting to get their roles down so the acting wasn't particularly strong and compared to everything that happens in Turtle Tracks and Rise of the Turtles it had a lot less story to tell. It didn't have bad pacing and it could be argued trying to cram in more would have hurt the pacing but it's just not as thrilling as Turtle Tracks or Rise of the Turtles. If you want to rate Rise of the Turtles on just the first half hour it's already more entertaining than Things Change but falls below Turtle Tracks. If you give Rise of the Turtles the full hour (well 45 minutes or something) then Rise of the Turtles quite possibly beats out even Turtle Tracks for a better story, nothing that dates it horribly and more fleshed out characterization of each turtle. As far as an 80s cartoon goes Turtle Tracks is very entertaining and has pretty good writing for a pre-Batman: TAS era action cartoon and as far as I'm concerned it's always going to be great but I'm going to have to give the nod to Rise of the Turtles. __________________ It's weird to be normal, and it's normal to be weird.

10-09-2012, 05:56 PM	#35
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	Ugh. I can't choose. D: __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)