Mutant of the week show?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Venom

Actually no, I only saw the last few minutes of the episode.

You must see that episode ASAP, one of the best episodes of the new show so far.

[DonatelloNinja82]

Mona Lisa on the OT didn't seem very comfortable with being a mutant, either. After her flashback to tell her story, she says something along the lines of..."and became the grotesque mutant I am today..."

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by pannoni1

so its too early to judge if this series will evolve into a mutant of the week formula like the OT did later on.

I'd like to point out that this, in fact, never happened, although it probably would've been a lot cooler if it had.

[cryan]

You know I remember that quote from her from that episode. To contrast that, IF they do put her in the new series have her embrace her mutant form after she discovers the super abilities he now has but yes she did make the comment about the grotesque mutant she became.

Originally Posted by DonatelloNinja82

Mona Lisa on the OT didn't seem very comfortable with being a mutant, either. After her flashback to tell her story, she says something along the lines of..."and became the grotesque mutant I am today..."

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

To be fair it's like this in Archie and the OT too.

I don't think pointing to the Fred Wolf universe as a basis of reasoning for anything... realistic... is going to be a good idea. Or a worthwhile burning of calories.

And the Archie series, while it is a direct Fred Wolf spinoff and kind of grandfathers in all the latent stupidity therein (which leads us back to my last point), did at least make some attempt -- at times -- to show some learning curve to mutations. The first one that comes to mind is Mondo Gecko, the horror not so much in him, but of his girlfriend who leaves him (for a time) and his subsequent depression. Jess Harley was pretty horrified, too, at least for a while -- in fact, his whole thing in the beginning was, "I gotta find a way to undo this and go back to being human!"

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Jephael

Ordinarily they seem to mutate people who're self centered loners, like that Snake thug who worked for the Kraang and Vic who got mutated into Spider-Bytes.

I think an argument could be made that psychologically, the more self-centered and/or narcissistic the person, the more them becoming physically warped would tend to horrify the person.

There's literally no thought process behind it. "Wow, I'm really gonna be able to beat up the Ninja Turtles now!" But let's assume you do. What then? At the end of the day you're still going to be Plant-Man, or Giant Dog Man, or whatever other else is going on this week, so what's your plan, then? What's the endgame? Where are you going to live, how are you going to support yourself... what will be your hopes and dreams? None of this, huh? Just stand over the TMNT's graves and pound on them for eternity, that's the plan, ey?

Silly, silly, silly...

[Dirty Blond]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

At the end of the day you're still going to be Plant-Man, or Giant Dog Man

Or Rat-Man, in the case of Splinter.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Dirty Blond

Or Rat-Man, in the case of Splinter.

Considering Splinter has to live the rest of his life below ground seperated from human society, I'd say his mutation was depressing.

One of the reasons I like the Hamato Yoshi origin.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Considering Splinter has to live the rest of his life below ground seperated from human society, I'd say his mutation was depressing.

One of the reasons I like the Hamato Yoshi origin.

Unfortunately, same as in the Fred Wolf show, it comes at the cost of making the mutagen a joke.

[Jester]

At the end of the day it's a freakin' children's show, that you weren't gonna like or even respect anyway....

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Jester

At the end of the day it's a freakin' children's show, that you weren't gonna like or even respect anyway....

Neither comment is true. I respect the show for what it is and I rather enjoy it (despite it definitely not being "for me"), but I don't see how affording the tiniest bit of weight to, I dunno, completely destroying people's lives with mutations would make the show toxic for little children.

[Jester]

Really...wow. Color me pleasantly surprised and genuinely apologetic.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Cipher

I'd like to point out that this, in fact, never happened, although it probably would've been a lot cooler if it had.

At least there could have been a few episodes dedicated to Scumbug, Antrax, Wyrm or Pizzaface.

A lot of those other Playmate mutant characters were terrible though. Glad Monty Moose and Half Court never made it into the show.

[Andrew NDB]

I wasn't thinking she would but my 5 year-old daughter actually really loves the show too. We've watched every one together and, in addition to constantly asking me "Why is the orange one so silly?" asks daily "When does the next one come out?" I don't have an answer to either question. When does the next episode come out?

Back on point, it wouldn't be something that appeals to me personally but I do feel like it's possible for a TMNT kids show to have a lot of mutants and not escalate things into creative bankruptcy and "prove Peter Laird wrong" in that regard... but this just isn't how you do it. To me this is only proving him right, at seemingly every turn.

Leatherhead episode was very well done, though.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't have an answer to either question. When does the next episode come out?

Apparently Ciro said it'll be back in February.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Jester

At the end of the day it's a freakin' children's show, that you weren't gonna like or even respect anyway....

There's a lot of children's shows I, and other adults, like and respect. Sadly I can't count this as one of them. Just because it's for kids doesn't mean it has to completely kiddie. Avengers, Wolverine and The X-men, Spectacular Spider-man, Batman TAS, Superman TAS, Justice League, hell even 2K3. This is way sillier, lighter, and much more streamlined for young children...who like anime.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

This is way sillier, lighter, and much more streamlined for young children...who like anime.

The show has very, very few anime-esque expressions. Its only used like one or two times per episode, and even then its only in certain scenes.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The show has very, very few anime-esque expressions. Its only used like one or two times per episode, and even then its only in certain scenes.

Then that's one or two times too many. I'm not saying the show needs to take itself hyper-seriously, but I don't know that it needs to kick me in the nuts and yank me out of the story just to remind me "Hey, f*ckface! Don't forget this is a show for little kids!" either.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Then that's one or two times too many. I'm not saying the show needs to take itself hyper-seriously, but I don't know that it needs to kick me in the nuts and yank me out of the story just to remind me "Hey, f*ckface! Don't forget this is a show for little kids!" either.

Its actually interesting how even though the anime boom died in the U.S. sometime back in 2006, you still see this anime expressions added to U.S. produced cartoons.

You go back and watch the original cartoon and you see NONE of this in the episodes, there were no visual gags that popped out in "Looney Tunes" -esque fashion. Mainly because the show was produced prior to the anime craze ever hitting America...which started around 1998 when Pokemon hit U.S. shores.

[Spitfire]

Interesting, plague, all depends on how you view it. It's because a lot of animators themselves are fans of anime so they reference it. I just wish they were fans of good anime like the Disney and Pixar animators so we could see homages to decent anime films.