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Old 03-21-2013, 08:13 PM   #21
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Nick wants this April to be popular with young girls, not sure why its sexist.
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:28 PM   #22
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Old 03-21-2013, 08:29 PM   #23
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Nick wants this April to be popular with young girls, not sure why its sexist.
I think some girls just want the option of having an April shirt and an all turtles shirt for girls maybe even other dude characters

we just want more options

(though I guess guys could want an April shirt too)
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:21 PM   #24
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The Foot/Turtles designs are very good and appeal to all ages. As for the April shirt, having her with the Turtles in the background still shows that the Turtles are the main guys and there's nothing wrong in terms of gender or sex. Well there could be a Karai shirt later on as a second Foot Clan shirt.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:53 PM   #25
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Ok, that April shirt is really cute. If I saw that in a store somewhere, I'd totally buy it. Even though I'm not a big April fan.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:11 PM   #26
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This isn't about being sexist but about money. The market for TMNT is boys not girls, if there was some interest by girls you better bet that they'd be all over it making more shirts for girls. The girl shirts having April is only logical since the small market that may want a TMNT shirt will relate better to the girls, it's not about being sexist but what the market wants.

Now I'm sure there's plenty of girls who love TMNT and don't care for April however this isn't exactly a big market so don't expect stuff being marketed to you. There's a lot of kid franchises I like and I wish they made more adult products based on them but I am aware I am not the target audience and I'm just a niche audience.
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:58 PM   #27
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I've been a TMNT fan since 1989 when I was 10 years old. I'm well aware of the gender imbalance and have long accepted it.

The April shirt is cute for what it is, but still not something I would wear. I think if they made an honest attempt at marketing to girls/women, they would find success. Obviously it would be on a much smaller scale, but I think it's about damn time they actually gave us a fair shot.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:04 PM   #28
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I've been a TMNT fan since 1989 when I was 10 years old. I'm well aware of the gender imbalance and have long accepted it.

The April shirt is cute for what it is, but still not something I would wear. I think if they made an honest attempt at marketing to girls/women, they would find success. Obviously it would be on a much smaller scale, but I think it's about damn time they actually gave us a fair shot.
that got me thinking...I wonder if guys want My Little Pony shirts XD?
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:06 PM   #29
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I wonder if they'll make a Karai shirt for the, "bad girls."
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:24 PM   #30
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that got me thinking...I wonder if guys want My Little Pony shirts XD?
You betcha.
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:33 AM   #31
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whaaa!! o_o look at that variety!

...(okay now I really want some TMNT girl shirts) XD
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:46 AM   #32
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Old 03-22-2013, 06:40 AM   #33
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Just putting this out there, the shirts in this thread are in kid's sizes.
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Old 03-22-2013, 07:35 AM   #34
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Hell I feel the exact opposite way Rose does lol
I always feel that girls get the better t-shirt designs.
When I was younger and could pull it off I'd buy them and cut the arms off and wear them.
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Old 03-22-2013, 09:26 AM   #35
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Hell I feel the exact opposite way Rose does lol
I always feel that girls get the better t-shirt designs.
When I was younger and could pull it off I'd buy them and cut the arms off and wear them.
For TMNT? There weren't any girls' shirts in the 90s.

As an aside, here's the shirt I'm wearing today:



It's from ShirtPunch, so Nickelodeon didn't get any of the $$ I spent on it.

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Old 03-22-2013, 10:36 AM   #36
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I actually really like the April shirt >__> It made me chuckle. I want it. I don't care if it's in kid's sizes. I'M TINY, I COULD PROLLY PULL IT OFF.
I'll probably never see any of those shirts on Canadian soil though...
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Old 03-22-2013, 10:49 AM   #37
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Women wear men's t-shirts all the time.
Really? I had no idea, what with me being a woman who has to wear men's shirts all the time if I want to wear clothing with legally licensed characters from the properties i enjoy on them.

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This isn't about being sexist but about money. The market for TMNT is boys not girls, if there was some interest by girls you better bet that they'd be all over it making more shirts for girls. The girl shirts having April is only logical since the small market that may want a TMNT shirt will relate better to the girls, it's not about being sexist but what the market wants.

Now I'm sure there's plenty of girls who love TMNT and don't care for April however this isn't exactly a big market so don't expect stuff being marketed to you. There's a lot of kid franchises I like and I wish they made more adult products based on them but I am aware I am not the target audience and I'm just a niche audience.
You really have no idea how business or fandom works, do you?
Sad.

The April shirt is cute, but it's not a design I would wear. And not just because it doesn't come in a size I could feasibly fit into.
If Nick isn't going to cater to me as a fan, I'll just keep buying bootlegged stuff. It's really no skin off my nose.

But the idea that there's no girl TMNT market is the same short-sighted Catch-22 that children's entertainment has always been.

We don't cater to girls because they don't buy our products, and around we go.
And yes, it is VERY sexist to assume that girls will only like girl characters, and that boys will only like boy characters. And to try and support that gross assumption behind the reasoning of "business" is just bad business. If you want to make money you cast your net as widely as possible. Try to get yourself as many consumers as possible.

But apparently...only boys matter.
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:32 AM   #38
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You really have no idea how business or fandom works, do you?
Sad.
If Nick isn't going to cater to me as a fan, I'll just keep buying bootlegged stuff. It's really no skin off my nose.
But the idea that there's no girl TMNT market is the same short-sighted Catch-22 that children's entertainment has always been.
We don't cater to girls because they don't buy our products, and around we go. And yes, it is VERY sexist to assume that girls will only like girl characters, and that boys will only like boy characters. And to try and support that gross assumption behind the reasoning of "business" is just bad business. If you want to make money you cast your net as widely as possible. Try to get yourself as many consumers as possible.
But apparently...only boys matter.
See you're taking it personal. Trust me I perfectly understand how business works. You are a very niche audience as a female TMNT fan, it might suck for you but it's true. If there was any money you can bet they would try to suck it out of you but at this point the few sales are not worth it for them to fully promote TMNT to both audiences. Sorry a big fandom online does not equal sales and there have been many examples were companies cater to the fandom only to see dismal sales.

There's a reason there's almost never been any female action figures in lines and when they finally do they usually shelfwarm. .
That's not saying that big companies sometimes miss the boat when it comes to properties and marketing to women.

Properties that would be easier to sell to girls would be Power Rangers but even then it's proven to be extremely hard. Now there are other more non-gender specific franchise like Pokemon that could definitely be marketed more towards girls and you'd have a point there but definitely not for TMNT, there just aren't many fans, especially adult female TMNT fans so you have to enjoy the few things you get or go bootleg. I realize this is not what you want but there isn't much you can do about it.
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Old 03-23-2013, 12:53 AM   #39
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I already got a new TMNT shirt based on the NickTMNT from Wal-Mart a week ago. I wore it during my 'Megan Fox is gonna be April' video. I'd love to get the Foot one, though Shredder should have been pointing at the viewer. The only problem I have is we need NEW art. Everything seems to be random compilations of pre-existing stock art..
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See you're taking it personal. Trust me I perfectly understand how business works. You are a very niche audience as a female TMNT fan, it might suck for you but it's true. If there was any money you can bet they would try to suck it out of you but at this point the few sales are not worth it for them to fully promote TMNT to both audiences. Sorry a big fandom online does not equal sales and there have been many examples were companies cater to the fandom only to see dismal sales.

There's a reason there's almost never been any female action figures in lines and when they finally do they usually shelfwarm. .
That's not saying that big companies sometimes miss the boat when it comes to properties and marketing to women.

Properties that would be easier to sell to girls would be Power Rangers but even then it's proven to be extremely hard. Now there are other more non-gender specific franchise like Pokemon that could definitely be marketed more towards girls and you'd have a point there but definitely not for TMNT, there just aren't many fans, especially adult female TMNT fans so you have to enjoy the few things you get or go bootleg. I realize this is not what you want but there isn't much you can do about it.
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

If the online fandom of a property is huge, then that means its fanbase is equally huge. Anyone who lacks the ability to see that as a market to be catered to and explored is quite literally saying to that huge fanbase: I DON'T WANT YOUR MONEY.

Telling potential consumers that you don't want their money is bad for business.

In conclusion, you can take a flying leap into traffic for your blatant attempt to dismiss my valid arguments by trying to pull the "you're too emotional" card.
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