5th turtle-you

[Ghidorah2000]

Jeese! Forget about a Fifth Turtle!!! How about Girlfriends of the Amphibious type ya know?! I mean it has to get pretty lonely down there in the lair now that Splinter's gone. I mean any normal male, albeit mutant turtle males, would be going crazy without some kind of Feminine presence there. Besides, those turtles can't stay 15 forever. In a realistic sense they will need to grow up and start thinking of families of their own to pass on what Master Splinter has taught them.

Oh and just to answer what I chose in the poll, I'd be the next Shredder definately.

[HorseTechie]

Dude, I wanna be the next Shredder!
But... that's not as fun as thinking up turtley stats...

name : Dyana the HorseTurtle
male/female : female (minus the tits)
age : 25
color(bandana) : red
weapon : pitchfork (which otherwise looks like a staff with a sai at one end)
favorite saying : Horsabunga! *eyeshift*
favorite food : Italian and Asian
music : Rock n Roll (all varities)... and techno.
be ... or not to be, that is the question!

[Jephael]

That's only the mutagen of the Mirage universe, as well as the movies and new show, wheras the mutagen of the old show and Archie series worked on the idea of utalising DNA of whatever creatire you've most recently been in contact with.

Besides, my character got zapped by a mutation beam similar to Baxter Stockman's transformation in the old toon.

[Ghidorah2000]

Originally Posted by Jephael

That's only the mutagen of the Mirage universe, as well as the movies and new show, wheras the mutagen of the old show and archie series worked on the idea of utalising DNA of whatever creatire you've most recently been in contact with.

Besides, my character got zapped by a mutation beam similar to Baxter Stockman's transformation in the old toon.

Seriously I did not know that. I was just flying blind there. I thought it was all just a wild theory. But of course where Utroms are involved, it makes logical sense they'd be experimenting with DNA since their science is way more advanced than ours. They'd probably chuckle at our quaint little experiments with Sheep and Goats.

[Nate]

Name: Tiziano (Titian) (imformation on his name - http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/titian/ )
Sex: Male
Age: 16
Bandana color: red (or if I were to think of an individual color.. probably grey)
weapon: twin daggers.. on a chain, I dunno what it's called
Favorite Saying: Ain't got none
Favorite food: whatever he can find
Favorite music: the sound of pain is music to his ears


I like it .. I'm'a draw 'em

[Karpo_007]

I always tought the Ooze speeds up evolution or something... Byt of course that theory about Hu-Man DNA is good to. And Yeah, Mutagen in old cartoon and archie did mutate you to thing you had last touched. Changed beacsue they couldn't have Yoshi dying. One thing is strange tough, every time after watching Turtle Tracks I wonder why Yoshi didn't Mutate to a turtle, that what he touched last...

[Jephael]

I believe it was because he had spent more time tending to rats then turtles, not to mention the rats in the sewers most likely outnumbered the pet turtles 3 to 1.

[Karpo_007]

Yeah, but It was supposed to be who he touched last... Well just little details, doesn't matter much I guess.

[Deathknight]

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

I always tought the Ooze speeds up evolution or something... Byt of course that theory about Hu-Man DNA is good to. And Yeah, Mutagen in old cartoon and archie did mutate you to thing you had last touched. Changed beacsue they couldn't have Yoshi dying. One thing is strange tough, every time after watching Turtle Tracks I wonder why Yoshi didn't Mutate to a turtle, that what he touched last...

It was the last thing they showed him touching not necessarily the last thing he had touched. They left a rather large time gap between the time he was spending time with the turtles and when he walks in to see the mutagen on them. Of course the reason that Hamato Yoshi mutates into Splinter was because they couldn't have a character die but I think it makes more sense personally. I don't want to open this arguement up again about 'which origin is better,' but I just don't understand how a rat mimicing ninjitsu in a cage could make him so good at it.

[Moomintroll]

I totally would rather be the next Shredder, but if I was to be a turtle...
(which I would turn down over being me, i like me too much, sorry, but, if for some strange reason....)

if you were the 5th turtle what would your
name : Beliqueese
male/female : Femme fatale
age : 21
color(bandana) - aquamarine or white
wepoan : acid, sais
favorite saying : "I am not nice, thats just the side effect of the medication"
favorite food : Sushi
music : Depeche Mode
be...a survivor...

[Karpo_007]

Originally Posted by Deathknight

It was the last thing they showed him touching not necessarily the last thing he had touched. They left a rather large time gap between the time he was spending time with the turtles and when he walks in to see the mutagen on them. Of course the reason that Hamato Yoshi mutates into Splinter was because they couldn't have a character die but I think it makes more sense personally. I don't want to open this arguement up again about 'which origin is better,' but I just don't understand how a rat mimicing ninjitsu in a cage could make him so good at it.

It has been said that Splinter wasn't a normal rat to begin with. There doesn't need to be an argument, what is better is everyones own opinion. But the ooze in Original TMNT is more realistic than in the old cartoon. In reality radioactive substances do cause genetic mutations to life forms, But turning them what they last touched is more far fetched. Maybe it makes more sense since it was supposed to be simpler.

So what if Splinter was very smart for a rat, thats not even neraly the most unrealistic thing about the TMNT. And TMNT isn't even supposed to be realistic, and that goes for every universe.

[SlayerX]

Male
17
Black
Rope with a hook on each end

Pizza
Rap, Hip-Hop

[The 7th Turtle]

Originally Posted by Deathknight

You'd have to be the 7th turtle because Zach was the 5th turtle and Walt was the 6th turtle and as Michaelangelo said, "Now all we need is a 7th and 8th turtle and we can retire!" -The Missing Map

i remember that quote but i forgot who's Walt....?

[Moomintroll]

Not to be a party pooper, but....
since we are on the subject of mutation...
No point in thinking how much time past, how splinter took on human form etc.... Doesn't matter, cause it's so beyond real, that the details don' make a difference...
Mutation to a specific form? Especially of the last thing the animal touched?
Not possible, not possible at ALL!
And no mutation can be so fast, I mean, a DNA sequence essencially codes for proteins, for the protein structure, proteins are made up of peptide chains, and peptide chains are made up of amino acids.
A biology review, most of you probably know this already, but still, DNA is Deoxyribonucleic acid, the strands are made up of molecules that have an adenine, cytosine, guanine and thymine (abbreviated A, C, G & T).
A each three bases form a codon, for example, AGG i belive codes for lysine, (don't remeber right now) etc..etc for each of the 20 amino acids that make up the peptide that make up the protein. So a DNA strand that is coded AGG ACC CTC AAA or something will be eventually built into a protein of a specific Amino Acid linkage, So mutation is essentially changing one of the bases, resulting in ACC instead of AGG, which may place say, a threonene instead of a lysis, theonene is bigger and has no charge, and thus by changing the amino acid, you just changed part of the primary structure of the protein, a protein may not work again, or it may work differently, and say if that protein codes for green skin because it regulates production of pigmintation in your skin cells (i am really oversiplifying here) so only by sheer luck, changing this one base may effect it to suddenly become expressed as blue skin.
Mutations that after exposure to radiation basically are mutations in your DNA that cause your body to malfunction and start producing extra pigment, or no pigment, or grow an extra arm... however, that doesn't happen a lot mainly cause it would have to be a very very coincidential thing. Moslty, people who were exposed to radiaton just get cancer, which is a mutation, but very non specific, and it's mostly in the reproduction controls of the cell.
Doing a mutation to actually stand for something takes incredible time and patience, in the spring, I mutated lysine to arginine in the active center of e.coli alkaline phospotase, and it took a freaken semester to do with a lot fo error, so a chance of dipping an animal in something to make it immideatlky mutate is, well, unreasnoble, and have it take charcateristics of the last thing it touched. Impossible I dare say, bacteria does have a tendency to absorb chunks of dead DNA into its own plasmid and mutate into a new strain, but bacterial DNA is not enclosed, it's a lot simplier, and their reproductive rate is much faster, and the mutation actually gets spread.
So TMNT - not possible, no way, no how, more likely a UV caused mutation that an isotope one, but still, NO NO NO, and it's fine, it's ok, and I like them just fine, but just not possible, not in science as we know it. Sorry.

Structure of DNA was discovered by Watson And Crick and published in thr April 1953 edition of Nature, but anyways, I digress....

[The 7th Turtle]

*talking really slowly* it's a cartoon... you can say everything in cartoons... it's not real y'know...

[Moomintroll]

Do'h!

I know it's a cartoon, I am just saying that whats the point of analyzing the details of something that is THIS improble anyways.

[Karpo_007]

Yes, but the ooze is from alien origins, Like I said, I do belive it speeds up the evolution proces and also the the process of cells reproducing. You have to remember in original TMNT it took over 10 years for the TMNT to get to their current size. Of course in the old cartoon They became that size instantly, wich makes it evn more unrealistic.

So I guess what the ooze basicly does is it rewrites the DNA. So the species that get affected by it, can over time grow something totally diffrent. But maybe we shouldn't make science of the TMNT... It was never ment to be realistic.

[Ghidorah2000]

Originally Posted by Moomintroll

Do'h!

I know it's a cartoon, I am just saying that whats the point of analyzing the details of something that is THIS improble anyways.

That's according to Earth studies into DNA. Now Utrom DNA studies are much more highly advanced. They find our attempts to clone sheep very amusing and quaint. They were probably doing this kind of stuff billions of years ago on their homeworld with similar organisms.

[Ghidorah2000]

Originally Posted by Moomintroll

I dunno, sorry, I am not allowed to watch all of Don's explanations in the old cartoon by my friends cause I get super analytical there too,
so lets go back to boobies, since you like boobies.
Yay for boobies
though I don't undertand where the boobies would go cause they have shells on the front, and like Venus had shell covered boobies didn't make sense cause boobies are there to feed the young and no other reason, so how would she do that if she had shell over it?
I am not for the female 5th turtle at all, as much as I want them all to get some, I think plently of fangirls could help them just fine in their human form..

If that is true then why do the predominantly male turtles have the hint of ripped pecs and abs in the new cartoon when you look at some of the drawings for them? Not that I'm complaining.....

[Ghidorah2000]

Hah hah hah hah hah! This thread is starting to really crack me up.

Oh and one more thing....* snicker, snicker *....how do we know what's underneath that carapace of both male and female mutant turtles? It scares me just to think about it!!!