WB to announce Batman/Superman movie for 2015

[Cure]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Batman better be more campy here.

I cannot tolerate serious Man of Steel and serious Batman interacting. It would be like two one dimensional stage props staring at each other.

At least bring in Robin.

This I can agree with. There's been enough seriousness for a while now.

[sdp]

DC copying Marvel? This is actually a time when I say great, I just hope it doesn't feel as rushed as the MAU but it looks like it will.

For Batman to work in this universe he will have to be preptime Batman, which is fine by me, I like that version a lot. Also I love gritty batman, I am tired of TDK style but there's other realistic Batman takes that don't have to go the route of TDK. A hax0r Batman would also be great to see. I'd also be more than fine in the unlikely case of Bale or Joseph-Gordan Levitt being Batman. I really don't see how "realistic" the trilogy is that it can't be made into a larger DCU. It's no different than BTAS and JLU being very different in tone.

I'm guessing people will be disappointed because this is a MOS sequel with Batman as a character, maybe not even a huge part of it, so not really the Worlds Finest movie, which is fine by me since I like MOS and I want more of that. So I hope it's either a World's Finest movie or MOS2 with a quick scene with Batman in it where they talk or whatever, but having a movie that is trying to be a Superman movie and then Batman comes and takes a big part but isn't really "worlds finest" I would'nt be a fan of. God I hope that made sense.

And I do hope they make a Flash movie, personally I'd prefer a TV show but oh well. I also think a soft reboot of Green Lantern and hacing John Stewart be GL there and continuing the good ideas the first movie had wouldn't be bad. There was also a very recent rumor about a Batman Beyond movie in the works, I think that's a great way to have Batman back without retreading old ground.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I am really looking forward to the Batman/Superman team up. When played right it can be very entertaining

[CyberCubed]

Considering the villain will likely be Lex Luthor, it seems Batman will fight him while Superman fights someone like Mettallo or Parasite.

[Slade]

This will more than likely have a Batman with a new canon than that of the Nolan verse. Goyer and Snyder have said Superman is the first hero to show his face in this universe.

But on the flip side of that, it has me wondering. If that's true, then as of Man of Steel, there is no Batman. So does that mean his first showing will be in this movie? Seems like there should be a new Batman movie before this one, to me at least.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by Raph_tha_Dude

This will more than likely have a Batman with a new canon than that of the Nolan verse. Goyer and Snyder have said Superman is the first hero to show his face in this universe.

But on the flip side of that, it has me wondering. If that's true, then as of Man of Steel, there is no Batman. So does that mean his first showing will be in this movie? Seems like there should be a new Batman movie before this one, to me at least.

It would be kind of lame to have Superman be the "first" considering he's 33 in Man of Steel. Bruce Wayne already experienced a life changing trauma as a child, which eventually leads into his donning of the cowl. Which has been premeditated for a while, considering all the training he goes through before he becomes Batman.

Batman needs no introduction, all we need to know is that he exist, and bam, give us a Batman in his prime. As much as I liked Nolan's Batman, it felt like it was lacking something special. Sure, he looks like Batman, but he didn't really feel like Batman.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Turo602

It would be kind of lame to have Superman be the "first" considering he's 33 in Man of Steel. Bruce Wayne already experienced a life changing trauma as a child, which eventually leads into his donning of the cowl. Which has been premeditated for a while, considering all the training he goes through before he becomes Batman.

Batman needs no introduction, all we need to know is that he exist, and bam, give us a Batman in his prime. As much as I liked Nolan's Batman, it felt like it was lacking something special. Sure, he looks like Batman, but he didn't really feel like Batman.

Thats the thing. Batman didn't feel like Batman because he was forced into a realistic world. Where his knees wear out, and his gadgets and gear are second hand from the military. The issue is that Man Of Steel was made with the same "What if this happened in the real world" approach. So a more comicy Batman wouldn't fit in that world, and a Dark Knight Batman would. If they don't go with a Batman character from The Dark Knight trilogy, they're inviting a crapton if comparison that they may regret.

[CyberCubed]

Batman can be introduced because everyone knows who he is. It doesn't matter if he's a reboot.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Thats the thing. Batman didn't feel like Batman because he was forced into a realistic world. Where his knees wear out, and his gadgets and gear are second hand from the military. The issue is that Man Of Steel was made with the same "What if this happened in the real world" approach. So a more comicy Batman wouldn't fit in that world, and a Dark Knight Batman would. If they don't go with a Batman character from The Dark Knight trilogy, they're inviting a crapton if comparison that they may regret.

I find it hard to believe that Man of Steel was trying to do what Nolan did with Batman. The only thing that struck me as realistic, was the affect he had on the world he was in. Other than that, Man of Steel was too sci-fi to even be considered on the same realistic scale of The Dark Knight trilogy.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Batman can be introduced because everyone knows who he is. It doesn't matter if he's a reboot.

A new Batman could be introduced easily, but all the casual viewers will wish it was Bale or wonder why it isn't.

Originally Posted by Turo602

I find it hard to believe that Man of Steel was trying to do what Nolan did with Batman. The only thing that struck me as realistic, was the affect he had on the world he was in. Other than that, Man of Steel was too sci-fi to even be considered on the same realistic scale of The Dark Knight trilogy.

"The world he was in" is what I mean. A realistic world - plus Superman and Zod. Not like the old movies, where everyone loves Superman from day one, everyone cheers for him, and the people don't doubt his motives or fear his power.
And even from a sci-fi standpoint, the Kryptonian stuff was more grounded, like ditching the classic crystal technology that was "indistinguishable from magic," and just making everything out of metal, with engines and such.

[Turo602]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

"The world he was in" is what I mean. A realistic world - plus Superman and Zod. Not like the old movies, where everyone loves Superman from day one, everyone cheers for him, and the people don't doubt his motives or fear his power.

And even from a sci-fi standpoint, the Kryptonian stuff was more grounded, like ditching the classic crystal technology that was "indistinguishable from magic," and just making everything out of metal, with engines and such.

Okay... then there's nothing wrong with that. It's still nothing like Nolan. And what's with the "not like the old Superman?" That **** needs to die already. Superman is a much more sophisticated character than that. If you want unbelievably happy Superman in a world of morons, then watch the old movies. A real world just further fleshes out Superman's character. It's what connects us to him, which is a huge part of who he is.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Zany Orange Dude

I am really looking forward to the Batman/Superman team up. When played right it can be very entertaining

Same here. Been hoping that this would happen someday.

[Leo656]

I'm looking forward to seeing how they do this. It's possible they may do a loose interpretation of Man Of Steel #3, the first meeting of Superman and Batman in the post-"Crisis" universe. In that continuity, it was established that Batman had already been active for some time before Superman showed up, although he kept much more quiet and was still mostly thought of as an urban legend. I don't expect them to recycle that issue's plot, but carrying bits of the story over would be no stretch.

I'm expecting Bruce to be more than a little suspicious of Clark, and maybe a bit annoyed, too... that satellite could NOT have been cheap, after all. I also see Luthor making his on-screen debut, using Superman and Zod's destruction of the city as a way to manipulate the public against Superman. LexCorp will almost certainly be responsible for helping Metropolis rebuild, putting Lex in a good position to sway public opinion. He'll probably have reason to cross paths with Bruce Wayne at some point, setting the wheels in motion for Superman and Batman to unite against a common enemy. I could see Metallo being in this; possibly as a prototype weapon to "keep Superman under control", developed by LexCorp for the military. There's a ton of neat stuff they could do.

Of course, I'm a bit concerned it'll be a bunch of rehashed stuff from all the rejected Superman/Batman scripts from 10 years ago, and I'm sure a good chunk of that stuff will make its way in, but that's what they did with "Man Of Steel" and that turned out pretty good. I actually do see including Batman as a way to add a little humor into things. Not by making Batman a lighter character than we've seen recently - they'd be crazy to try and drastically change what the public paid billions of dollars to see over the last 8 years and 3 Batman movies - but rather, I can see the potential for humor in the way Superman and Batman interact. There's almost always some instance whenever they interact in which things turn darkly comical, and I can see that being true in the new movie as well.

I'm looking forward to it; my only concern is, this movie will have a ton going on and it has the potential to feel crammed. But I'll trust them, seeing as how I've enjoyed most everything they've done so far.

[CyberCubed]

They have to have a Batman villain in this movie.

I'd love to see Lex Luthor team up with The Riddler. Two intellectual minds trying to bring down the heroes.

[Zany Orange Dude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They have to have a Batman villain in this movie.

I'd love to see Lex Luthor team up with The Riddler. Two intellectual minds trying to bring down the heroes.

Ooo that be an interesting pair to have work together.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Turo602

I find it hard to believe that Man of Steel was trying to do what Nolan did with Batman. The only thing that struck me as realistic, was the affect he had on the world he was in. Other than that, Man of Steel was too sci-fi to even be considered on the same realistic scale of The Dark Knight trilogy.

I actually think they were trying to make a darker version of Super-man, like Nolan did with these movies(even though Frank Miller invented dark batman)

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by Turo602

Okay... then there's nothing wrong with that. It's still nothing like Nolan. And what's with the "not like the old Superman?" That **** needs to die already. Superman is a much more sophisticated character than that. If you want unbelievably happy Superman in a world of morons, then watch the old movies. A real world just further fleshes out Superman's character. It's what connects us to him, which is a huge part of who he is.

Chill, bro. I was explaining how Man of Steel was more realistic, not claiming that it shouldn't have been.

But there's nothing wrong with a comic book hero who doesn't live in cynical and suspicious world. There's nothing wrong with a fictional world in which a hero is loved instead of feared. It's not a rule that it's better for superheros to inhabit realistic worlds. Hollywood just realized that it's a good way to serve superhero stories to a mass audience who can't wrap their minds around things that don't feel real.

And, some would argue that Superman is meant to be an unreachable standard, a god-like ideal, and he has no business being relatable or connected to us. And that he's only shifted in that direction over recent decades in order to fit in with the superheroes that were created long after he was.

[NinjaPug]

Since this is essentially the Man of Steel sequel, I wonder how much of the Batman universe we'll get in the movie. I'm doubting we get Gotham City or a traditional Batman villain. I think they're essentially using him in this movie as a springboard for a Justice League movie and as a way to reboot the Batman character for standalone films.

[Zany Orange Dude]

For anyone who is curious, here's how they announced it. The crowd goes crazy when the logo pops up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=2spdUrYi6-c

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Thats the thing. Batman didn't feel like Batman because he was forced into a realistic world. Where his knees wear out, and his gadgets and gear are second hand from the military.

1. They made it clear that all of Batman's gear was not in production on any level. The tanks, the armor. . . everything. It was all in R and D. In fact, it became a plot point in the second movie when the accountant found all the missing stuff from that department and threatened to blackmail Bats.

2. I have to disagree with Chrisdude's assertion that it didn't feel like Batman. To me, it TOTALLY felt like Batman. Everything was there. Perhaps not as much of it as some may have wanted, but it was.

Setting Bats in as real a world as possible gave some respectability to the story. It was more relatable than the other movies that came before it. Some of the explanations may not of have been perfect, but it was a lot better than having a Batman credit card or ice skate boots.

Originally Posted by Turo602

I find it hard to believe that Man of Steel was trying to do what Nolan did with Batman. The only thing that struck me as realistic, was the affect he had on the world he was in. Other than that, Man of Steel was too sci-fi to even be considered on the same realistic scale of The Dark Knight trilogy.

I still think MoS wasn't that great.